I have my requisition prepared for one ISD and two Raiders to accompany the Gladiator on a Survey to bring the glory and guidance of the Emperor to any and all on the voyages of the ISD Boobyprize. Our five year mission...to sell dice sets, movement tools, acrylic tokens and ANYTHING ELSE we can think of...to seek out new life in old lists and complications...to boldly go where *everyone* has gone before!

So the product status on the website says still on the boat, last update September 25th. They say it takes 4-6 weeks or so, usually. Provided there are no problems, we should have news soon, no?

So the product status on the website says still on the boat, last update September 25th. They say it takes 4-6 weeks or so, usually. Provided there are no problems, we should have news soon, no?

That's certainly the hope. If the scuttlebutt is correct that we'll have the stuff in hand on the 20th, then we should expect it to come off the boat on about the 13th - as it usually takes about a week between the boat and the store.

and then the time until it reaches Europe...

and then the time until it reaches Europe...

Eons.

and then the time until it reaches Europe...

From what my LGS told me, for initial releases the stock will have been shipped straight to the distributors in Europe. During the US dock issues, we actually had our stock sitting around waiting for the US to be ready before FFG gave the OK to ship.

I'm confident that we won't be stuck waiting for a shipment to head over from across the pond

During worlds the commentator on stream was one of the people that handles getting these things released and while coy he did say they expected to have news very soon and to keep an eye on their web page. I would expect to see something new on there next week.

and then the time until it reaches Europe...

From what my LGS told me, for initial releases the stock will have been shipped straight to the distributors in Europe. During the US dock issues, we actually had our stock sitting around waiting for the US to be ready before FFG gave the OK to ship.

I'm confident that we won't be stuck waiting for a shipment to head over from across the pond

German-language stuff is shipped directly to Europe, normally, but the English version comes via US. Which is strange, why not sending some English version along with the German? Unless produced elsewhere.

and then the time until it reaches Europe...

From what my LGS told me, for initial releases the stock will have been shipped straight to the distributors in Europe. During the US dock issues, we actually had our stock sitting around waiting for the US to be ready before FFG gave the OK to ship.

I'm confident that we won't be stuck waiting for a shipment to head over from across the pond

German-language stuff is shipped directly to Europe, normally, but the English version comes via US. Which is strange, why not sending some English version along with the German? Unless produced elsewhere.

I'm in the UK, so it was definitely English language stuff that's coming to us direct

and then the time until it reaches Europe...

From what my LGS told me, for initial releases the stock will have been shipped straight to the distributors in Europe. During the US dock issues, we actually had our stock sitting around waiting for the US to be ready before FFG gave the OK to ship.

I'm confident that we won't be stuck waiting for a shipment to head over from across the pond

German-language stuff is shipped directly to Europe, normally, but the English version comes via US. Which is strange, why not sending some English version along with the German? Unless produced elsewhere.

It's bad news for german players, it seems that the Release Date of Wave 2 will be deep in December: Heidelberger Spiele, the distributor of the german version, says 12.2015 on their website.

Some shops say 17th December which is again over a month of waiting time from now on....

If its really Dec 17, then thats bad news for the English version. According to my store, always comes a week or so later than the German stuff. If its really after Christmas then this is a very disappointing performance. Yes, X-wing makes more money and all...

Lets see.

Amazon now says in stock on November 30th. They moved their estimated date back 10 days.

And radio silence from FFG...tsss.

turning into a bit of a farce

Yeah, we are well past the point where we should have heard something, even if that something was simply "unforseen delays and we are working on it. We hope to get it to you by (insert conservative date). We appreciate your patience"

Doesn't actually tell us anything, doesn't admit fault, and makes us feel like we aren't being ignored. Honestly, the stuff really isn't that hard.

I don't know what you guys are so anxious about. If you didn't do well enough at Sullust to win yourself some ships, maybe you don't deserve to have them.

In the meantime, I'm packing up my two ISDs and Raider and I'm going to crush me some Rebellion (Lyraeus) tomorrow.

Really? What an obnoxious thing to say.

If you wanted to tell everyone you won stuff at Sullust you can do it without insulting everyone else. Only thing I don't have 1 of right now is MC80 but if your concern for the health of the game only encompasses what you yourself have you aren't really about the community.

Yeah, I'm anxious for wave 2, but not because I wan't to buy such and such a thing but because the total lack of regard for the Armada community from FFG is troubling to me, I have to ask myself if I want to continue devoting time and money to a game that doesn't seem to have the same level of support and concern as it could. Will there be anyone playing this in a year? Are they truly investing in growing the player base?

After watching the only game of Armada streamed from worlds my heart sank. They picked lists guaranteed to be a yawnfest, every non Armada player on the stream was NOT impressed and I could hardly blame them. Not a single ship destroyed and a slow paced game bogged down by 7 CR90 activations *facepalm*. I'm not saying they aren't viable lists, just that they were probably the worst to pick to showcase the game!

Yes the 3rd round game was boring in that no ships went boom. But us a great show of tacits and you can win even if you dont table the other guy. However rounds 4 and 5 with the duel AFM and a wing swarms was great

I don't know what you guys are so anxious about. If you didn't do well enough at Sullust to win yourself some ships, maybe you don't deserve to have them.

In the meantime, I'm packing up my two ISDs and Raider and I'm going to crush me some Rebellion (Lyraeus) tomorrow.

Really? What an obnoxious thing to say.

If you wanted to tell everyone you won stuff at Sullust you can do it without insulting everyone else. Only thing I don't have 1 of right now is MC80 but if your concern for the health of the game only encompasses what you yourself have you aren't really about the community.

Yeah, I'm anxious for wave 2, but not because I wan't to buy such and such a thing but because the total lack of regard for the Armada community from FFG is troubling to me, I have to ask myself if I want to continue devoting time and money to a game that doesn't seem to have the same level of support and concern as it could. Will there be anyone playing this in a year? Are they truly investing in growing the player base?

After watching the only game of Armada streamed from worlds my heart sank. They picked lists guaranteed to be a yawnfest, every non Armada player on the stream was NOT impressed and I could hardly blame them. Not a single ship destroyed and a slow paced game bogged down by 7 CR90 activations *facepalm*. I'm not saying they aren't viable lists, just that they were probably the worst to pick to showcase the game!

Yes the 3rd round game was boring in that no ships went boom. But us a great show of tacits and you can win even if you dont table the other guy. However rounds 4 and 5 with the duel AFM and a wing swarms was great

Yeah, I loved the "Meta Smashing" of those rounds, TBH I hate "The Meta", it sucks the life out of a game and I think FFG know this and they understand the importance of timely releases to keep the game dynamic and interesting. Once again why true fans of the game are so frustrated about this release. I played a few games last night that included a bunch of Wave 2 including an epic 4 player game with 2x ISD and a 1 on 1 where I took my ISD, Raider and Bossk against an ISD/vic list @300 points (my ISD kitted out to be a ship smasher 2-rounded the other ISD with Motti on it) and that was SO MUCH fun. Yet here we are 2+ months after sullust and the game dwindles.

I don't know what you guys are so anxious about. If you didn't do well enough at Sullust to win yourself some ships, maybe you don't deserve to have them.

In the meantime, I'm packing up my two ISDs and Raider and I'm going to crush me some Rebellion (Lyraeus) tomorrow.

Really? What an obnoxious thing to say.

If you wanted to tell everyone you won stuff at Sullust you can do it without insulting everyone else. Only thing I don't have 1 of right now is MC80 but if your concern for the health of the game only encompasses what you yourself have you aren't really about the community.

Yeah, I'm anxious for wave 2, but not because I wan't to buy such and such a thing but because the total lack of regard for the Armada community from FFG is troubling to me, I have to ask myself if I want to continue devoting time and money to a game that doesn't seem to have the same level of support and concern as it could. Will there be anyone playing this in a year? Are they truly investing in growing the player base?

After watching the only game of Armada streamed from worlds my heart sank. They picked lists guaranteed to be a yawnfest, every non Armada player on the stream was NOT impressed and I could hardly blame them. Not a single ship destroyed and a slow paced game bogged down by 7 CR90 activations *facepalm*. I'm not saying they aren't viable lists, just that they were probably the worst to pick to showcase the game!

Yes the 3rd round game was boring in that no ships went boom. But us a great show of tacits and you can win even if you dont table the other guy. However rounds 4 and 5 with the duel AFM and a wing swarms was great

Yeah, I loved the "Meta Smashing" of those rounds, TBH I hate "The Meta", it sucks the life out of a game and I think FFG know this and they understand the importance of timely releases to keep the game dynamic and interesting. Once again why true fans of the game are so frustrated about this release. I played a few games last night that included a bunch of Wave 2 including an epic 4 player game with 2x ISD and a 1 on 1 where I took my ISD, Raider and Bossk against an ISD/vic list @300 points (my ISD kitted out to be a ship smasher 2-rounded the other ISD with Motti on it) and that was SO MUCH fun. Yet here we are 2+ months after sullust and the game dwindles.

*1 month. Sullust was Oct 2, 3, & 4. And I don't know about you, but we've seen increases in numbers in that month. I feel like if having to wait 1 month for a release is killing your scene, you have bigger problems.

I think wave 2 will help. I know at least one person waiting for it to drop before buying in.

I think the wait stinks, but I'm having fun with what I have at this point. And I don't have to worry too much about storage yet and that lets me focus on painting the stands.

I don't know what you guys are so anxious about. If you didn't do well enough at Sullust to win yourself some ships, maybe you don't deserve to have them.

In the meantime, I'm packing up my two ISDs and Raider and I'm going to crush me some Rebellion (Lyraeus) tomorrow.

Really? What an obnoxious thing to say.

If you wanted to tell everyone you won stuff at Sullust you can do it without insulting everyone else. Only thing I don't have 1 of right now is MC80 but if your concern for the health of the game only encompasses what you yourself have you aren't really about the community.

Yeah, I'm anxious for wave 2, but not because I wan't to buy such and such a thing but because the total lack of regard for the Armada community from FFG is troubling to me, I have to ask myself if I want to continue devoting time and money to a game that doesn't seem to have the same level of support and concern as it could. Will there be anyone playing this in a year? Are they truly investing in growing the player base?

After watching the only game of Armada streamed from worlds my heart sank. They picked lists guaranteed to be a yawnfest, every non Armada player on the stream was NOT impressed and I could hardly blame them. Not a single ship destroyed and a slow paced game bogged down by 7 CR90 activations *facepalm*. I'm not saying they aren't viable lists, just that they were probably the worst to pick to showcase the game!

Yes the 3rd round game was boring in that no ships went boom. But us a great show of tacits and you can win even if you dont table the other guy. However rounds 4 and 5 with the duel AFM and a wing swarms was great

Yeah, I loved the "Meta Smashing" of those rounds, TBH I hate "The Meta", it sucks the life out of a game and I think FFG know this and they understand the importance of timely releases to keep the game dynamic and interesting. Once again why true fans of the game are so frustrated about this release. I played a few games last night that included a bunch of Wave 2 including an epic 4 player game with 2x ISD and a 1 on 1 where I took my ISD, Raider and Bossk against an ISD/vic list @300 points (my ISD kitted out to be a ship smasher 2-rounded the other ISD with Motti on it) and that was SO MUCH fun. Yet here we are 2+ months after sullust and the game dwindles.

*1 month. Sullust was Oct 2, 3, & 4. And I don't know about you, but we've seen increases in numbers in that month. I feel like if having to wait 1 month for a release is killing your scene, you have bigger problems.

Not my problem, I don't make a living selling games. Around here thanks in part to a horrible exchange rate Armada can be an expensive game and finding players was already difficult, delayed release of wave 2 has led to some community apathy towards the game. It is very very hard for me to find a group to play with despite evangelizing the game and putting in a good deal of effort into establishing a network of players, I would not expect the "average" player to go to the lengths I have, so yes, this is hurting the toehold the game has locally.

Our scene has increased by 6 or so players. Really happy about that

Wave 2 was officially announced April 6th:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/4/6/here-they-come/

That's more than half a year ago.

Sept 30th saw the Rogues and Villains pack showcased.

The Massing is but a distant memory.

The stuff has been on the slow boat from Coruscant for ages now.

Make 'em wait!

Not the greatest marketing ploy ever conceived.

Paranoid people might start to wonder if Armada is doing really, really poorly sales-wise.

hopefully FFG has used the delay to get wave 3 well under way and won't be announcing it until they know it's ready for shipping

I know the wait here has put some strain on the group. Some have stopped showing and others wil not consider buying in without more options to choose from.

I've been letting others use my ISD ..... Twitch, twitch ......... I am SOOOOOOO looking forward to using it myself once wave 2 gets here.