Juno Eclipse - What do we think?

By JamieSpace, in X-Wing

So I have been thinking about using Juno with VI + ATC in my Palp & two ace lists. Frees up more points for a solid Whisper or proton rocket Vader.

She can hunt down any of those typical Soontir/Vader builds but is she good enough? She has the chance to re position with changing the manoeuvre and then a barrel roll but I haven't seen much love for her on the forums or in real life.

What are we thinking? Nice but not really competitive?

I always feel like I wanna put advanced sensors and/or engine upgrade on Juno to make her more unpredictable but that does take away from the bite of the ATC does make for a nice prockets platform.

I've used PTL on her and she is a very solid choice.

But ultimately there's Vader, who is now a monster so steals the spot light.

All Juno needs is ATC and Predator. She can move her way out of slippery situations and hit hard.

I use her with VI, Accuracy corrector, and a procket for anti- ace capabilities.

I've done well with her equipped with VI and ATC only. Great for the points and pretty effective. Only used PTL on her once and she did get faster, deadlier attacks but lost some of her late maneuvering choices. Predator sounds potent... I have to try that.

Vader is indeed the monster, which is why I bought a second TIE Advanced for her.

She's really fun with PtL, ATC, and TIE Mk II. You can always take the new TL and still Focus, and she's incredibly hard to bump if you set a 2-Bank since her ability and the MkII engine let you clear stress on whichever Bank you settle on. She doesn't need to Push every turn, which is the hard part about flying her if your only PtL experience is Squints and FOs. Being able to decide between all three Turn manoeuvres is ridiculously potent at PS8, especially if you already have your ATC lock. I like her as a cheaper option to Vader who almost always wants the Engine Upgrade and becomes just more expensive by default.

I find she also syncs very well with a number of other PS8 pilots, but my favourites are Carnor Jax and Rexler Brath. Brath is still waiting for a bit of help for his Defender (although PtL/MkII helps loads), but PtL/AT Jax is a huge boon to Juno's offense.

This is something I want to try out with Juno/Jax sometime soon:

Juno Eclipse (28)
Push the Limit (3)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE/x1 (0)
Carnor Jax (26)
Push the Limit (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Shadow Squadron Pilot (27)
Sensor Jammer (4)
Intelligence Agent (1)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
Total: 100
Juno and Jax can Focus/Evade against PWTs and TLTs pretty reliably, and the Shadow is there to hunt generic pilots. I wish I had room for a RecSpec or Gunner on the Phantom but I'd rather take the ACD at PS5 and use the Intel Agent to help out Juno and Jax in case of PS9+ enemies.

I've seen (and been on the receiving end of) PtL Juno Eclipse on a number of occasions. She's an excellent procket delivery system - her pilot ability makes PtL a great option and offers a huge degree of flexibility and blocking protection as well.

She can be very competitive in the right build.

Juno Eclipse (28)
Push the Limit (3)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE/x1 (0)

This is the way to run her, without a doubt. Effectively you just set her as a 2 speed every turn, and you've got no problem clearing stress - all those banks are now green, whichever you chose! She's almost better than Vader in this configuration.

I've seen (and been on the receiving end of) PtL Juno Eclipse on a number of occasions. She's an excellent procket delivery system - her pilot ability makes PtL a great option and offers a huge degree of flexibility and blocking protection as well.

She can be very competitive in the right build.

Yeah if you can afford to bump her from 33 to 36 points that one 5-dice attack with no TL setup can be monstrous. I figure having an ACD Phantom on the board makes up for it but if you're going to run Juno with a swarm of TIEs or some Bombers, she can easily pull off the role of dedicated Ace and the PRocket helps with that immensely.

"What's that? You tried to block my 2-Bank? Lemme just tap the space-brakes a little, drop stress anyway, Focus, and fire off this missile. Enjoy!"

With ATC you benefit alot from two actions and with mk.ii Juno can shed stress easily so there's little reason not to invest in her.

Juno with engine, X1/ATC, predator

Marek with X1/ATC, predator

Vader with X1/ATC, predator

That's off memory, but I think it's right. Unbelievably reliable damage, but I find you do need to fly a bit more cautiously as it is a bit squishy.

Yeah if you can afford to bump her from 33 to 36 points that one 5-dice attack with no TL setup can be monstrous. I figure having an ACD Phantom on the board makes up for it but if you're going to run Juno with a swarm of TIEs or some Bombers, she can easily pull off the role of dedicated Ace and the PRocket helps with that immensely.

"What's that? You tried to block my 2-Bank? Lemme just tap the space-brakes a little, drop stress anyway, Focus, and fire off this missile. Enjoy!"

Exactly this.

One of my buddies ran Vader/Juno/Palpatine at the last tournament we went to. Both TIE Advanced had prockets, Vader had Predator and Juno had Push.

The list beat double IG88's in under half an hour, then they played again for the hell of it - with the same result.

I've played the list with double IGs myself half a dozen time, and never come close to beating it. That procket alpha is literally point/click/remove from table.

Yeah if you can afford to bump her from 33 to 36 points that one 5-dice attack with no TL setup can be monstrous. I figure having an ACD Phantom on the board makes up for it but if you're going to run Juno with a swarm of TIEs or some Bombers, she can easily pull off the role of dedicated Ace and the PRocket helps with that immensely.

"What's that? You tried to block my 2-Bank? Lemme just tap the space-brakes a little, drop stress anyway, Focus, and fire off this missile. Enjoy!"

Exactly this.

One of my buddies ran Vader/Juno/Palpatine at the last tournament we went to. Both TIE Advanced had prockets, Vader had Predator and Juno had Push.

The list beat double IG88's in under half an hour, then they played again for the hell of it - with the same result.

I've played the list with double IGs myself half a dozen time, and never come close to beating it. That procket alpha is literally point/click/remove from table.

I like this but only way to do it is without EU on Vader and no MK. II on Juno which stings with PTL.

Omicron Group Pilot (21)

Emperor Palpatine (8)

Darth Vader (29)

Crack Shot (1)

Proton Rockets (3)

Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

Engine Upgrade (4)

TIE/x1 (0)

Juno Eclipse (28)

Push the Limit (3)

Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 100

Could be nasty!

Ugh, PRocket/EU Vader with Crack Shot and Palpatine? God that makes me feel unclean inside. I love it.

One thing I'm curious about: you all do know that the Mk II Engines only turn Juno's 3-banks green, right? Without them, you can still select a 1-bank, move the 2-bank instead, and it would still be green.

Don't get me wrong, it's reasonably good for the 1-point cost, but particularly when you're not intending to PTL every round, and if you're tight on points, I wouldn't call it an auto-include for her.

Actually I find Mk II to be more useful because it turns her 2-Banks and 3-Banks both green. The difference is subtle but it allows you to dial in the 2-Bank and have all three Banks result in a green manoeuvre, which to me is a much bigger boon than having to dial in the 1-Bank and only choosing between speed 1 or 2. She keeps the colour of her selected manoeuvre, is the thing. Her 2-Bank isn't green normally unless you select 1-Bank and change it.

If Palpmobile, Vader, Soontir is going to be as big a thing as everyone thinks. This list could be a real pain in the arse.

Captain Kagi (27)
Emperor Palpatine (8)
Juno Eclipse (28)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE/x1 (0)
Carnor Jax (26)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Stealth Device (3)
Royal Guard TIE (0)
Total: 98
Does not have the crazy action efficiency so will be weaker against swarms but will be really hard against mirror matches.

Actually I find Mk II to be more useful because it turns her 2-Banks and 3-Banks both green. The difference is subtle but it allows you to dial in the 2-Bank and have all three Banks result in a green manoeuvre, which to me is a much bigger boon than having to dial in the 1-Bank and only choosing between speed 1 or 2. She keeps the colour of her selected manoeuvre, is the thing. Her 2-Bank isn't green normally unless you select 1-Bank and change it.

This is spot on.

My favorite Pilot out from the Raider has to be the unsung Hero of Lt. Colzet. his synergy with Maarek Stele, and the Tie Adv fix in general, is just mind blowing.

My favorite Pilot out from the Raider has to be the unsung Hero of Lt. Colzet. his synergy with Maarek Stele, and the Tie Adv fix in general, is just mind blowing.

He was in the Canadian nationals winning list with Vader and Whisper. Those two strip the shields and land damage then Colzet just follows up flipping cards up

The issue is his low PS for getting target locks then actually getting to fire on the target

My favorite Pilot out from the Raider has to be the unsung Hero of Lt. Colzet. his synergy with Maarek Stele, and the Tie Adv fix in general, is just mind blowing.

He was in the Canadian nationals winning list with Vader and Whisper. Those two strip the shields and land damage then Colzet just follows up flipping cards up

The issue is his low PS for getting target locks then actually getting to fire on the target

low PS is actually the best (once in action) to get Target locks, as its your movement then action which will put you close and in TL range... thats also why i dont rely on FCS on Colzet, but Accuracy Corrector. it allows for constant damage.... when i get it. and due to the fact that AC is 2 hits always you can take an Evade action if you are unable to TL for guaranteed survivability.

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I love her. One of my favorite EU pilots. And since I think flying Vader is cliche, she's one of my go-to aces.

Use her in my 3 Aces Raven Squadron.

She's my ace for a casual game this week. Can't wait to bring the pain.

Well blondes are distinctively not my type, but I wouldn't pass her up.