Bringing the Phantom back to our Meta

By JarJarBot, in X-Wing Squad Lists

So, without discussing it, another player at my store and I have started running Phantoms again. The Phantom hasn't seen play since the start of this year before the rule change on decloaking and for that reason actually. Anyways, I just wanted some Phantom builds to try out to see if I can find something I really like. Right now I'm running an Oicunn/Whisper, the other player is running Whisper/Echo/Fel from what I saw, did not play him though.

My Build:

Oicunn; Gunner, Rebel Captive, Isard, EU, Intimidation

Whisper; ACD, Intelligence Agent, FCS, VI

If I remember correctly then that's 100 even. So any suggestions for the build or another Phantom build are welcome! Thanks!

P. S. This is also the build I won with despite the first two crits on Oicunn being Stunned Pilot (Oww) and Major Hull Breach I think (damage cards delt faceup).

Edited by JarJarBot

Oicunn is going to die faster than you can spell TLT...

Phantoms really appreciate having jammer right now, and Niko is right, the Decimator folds to TLTs really fast, and the only way you can prevent that is by ramming in to their formation. So if you're ramming then you don't need EU. The caveat is that you won't only fight TLTs so you need to make sure that your bases are covered against all opponents.

Phantoms really appreciate having jammer right now, and Niko is right, the Decimator folds to TLTs really fast, and the only way you can prevent that is by ramming in to their formation. So if you're ramming then you don't need EU. The caveat is that you won't only fight TLTs so you need to make sure that your bases are covered against all opponents.

you still need EU because a) you want to get to R1 ASAP vs TLT and b) not every list you meet is full of TLT

As of right now no one in my store has everything to make the 4 TLT list right now Palpatine is a big thing in our meta along with Fat Han and Swarms. Also any suggestions on other ships to run with the Phantom are welcome or changes to the Decimator, too.

My favorite Phantom list is:

Whisper

VI

ACD

FCS

Captive

Maarek Stele

PTL

AHM

title

ATC

Lt. Colzet.

Title

AC

I've always loved a Buzzsaw Whisper with the standard kit for Soontir Fel (Targeting Computer as opposed to SD).

The third ship I've always played around with, though I've had luck with a SD wearing Dark Curse. Backstabber would probably be a better choice, though, because Whisper and Soontir at the clear targets.

I've always loved a Buzzsaw Whisper with the standard kit for Soontir Fel (Targeting Computer as opposed to SD).

The third ship I've always played around with, though I've had luck with a SD wearing Dark Curse. Backstabber would probably be a better choice, though, because Whisper and Soontir at the clear targets.

I took that list (with Dark Curse) to Gencon this year. Didn't do that great, but the meta has changed a bit. Rebel captive was a problem, as was vader crew (two things I haven't seen since then), but generally speaking, building a list with obvious hard counters in it is not a good idea, and for that reason, I have moved on to other things now...

I've tried Whisper in a couple of buddy builds but no luck... guess I have to get the hang of flying him or find a good synergy build...

I've started using a 2 Sigma (both have SPA and SJ, 1 has IA, 1 has RebCaptive) and Carnor (PTL, AT, HU, title). Very fun to use. 2-0 with it so far against Dash/Poe and Brobots.

Another one I've used is Whisper (ACD, VI, FCS, RebCaptive), Echo (ACD, VI, FCS, RecSpec) and Dark Curse