It wasn't great, but as a pilot I rather liked it. They didn't spend a ton of time with origin or backstory. But rather got you into the story pretty quickly.

They did depart from canon a bit, but what the did was a lot easier to set up then the bottle city would of been.

It's interesting that they had superman sorta... You never actually see his face and they only ever refer to him as 'Him, He, the Blue guy, or my cousin'. They do refer to him as Kal El.

He is in a couple shots, but is shadowed, or blurred. I'm not sure if it's that they're trying to avoid having Superman overshadow Supergirl, or it's some sort of odd 'we don't have the rights' thing.

I like the actress they have to play her and the cast seems pretty good from the one show.

The story arc they have going should give them lots of opportunity for having her be Super, and room for some fight scenes...

That does lead to the one issue I had, the special effects weren't quite up to par with Agents of Shield or Flash. There was just something a tiny bit off about them. That may be something that improves as the show goes on.

But in the first episode the fight scenes just were a touch off.

As the father of 2 girls, I can say I'm happy to see a female hero finally being done and being treated seriously. I hope they don't get too carried away with the feminist tones, treat her as every bit as good as Superman but don't keep making the point that a girl is every bit as good as a guy.

I'm also pleased they went with the traditional costume which is all in all fairly modest and not the more 'tramped' up ones that some comics have. They even made the point of showing her in one and she made it clear she would not be wearing anything like that.

I like the fact that she's attractive and wears the classic costume, and isn't trying to make it into sex that sells, but rather that she is truly every bit the hero that Superman is.

All in all I'd recommend it if you like Flash, Arrow or Shield, I have my DVR set to record it from now on.

That does lead to the one issue I had, the special effects weren't quite up to par with Agents of Shield or Flash. There was just something a tiny bit off about them. That may be something that improves as the show goes on.

Have you seen the pictures for Red Tornado? (I think he was even in the season trailer) I think they do have some good CGI, but their costuming, despite nailing Supergirl, still isn't perfect. I liked how they did the heat rays and some of her hovering.

Still, I enjoyed it. Melissa Benoist is great. There is a bunch of silly hate for her hair color, though. I also like Jimmy and Alex. I do hope her sister doesn't end up going the path her name implies. I think it will be interesting to see what they do with Hank Henshaw, aka Cyborg Superman.

How's it compare to flash? That's by far the strongest dc show atm.

The pilot was a pilot. Some issues with setting it up in one episode. But, it is a very good start. The lead really makes the show.

The tone is very comparable. I would say it is a bit more lighter and fun than Flash. It is also helpful that the majority of the supporting cast is already in on the secret, so we don't have to worry about THAT drama too much.

Honestly, I think the idea of Kara embracing her powers gives the show a bit more of a positive outlook than the other shows.

I though it was pretty good. Not great, but not horrible. To me the tone was just a bit off throughout. Maybe a bit too flippant about fairly serious personality changes that just occur at the drop of a hat. I will continue to watch unless the quality starts to drop off.

Maybe I'm getting old, but the spandex outfit part made me uncomfortable because she looks and acts like she is 15. I do not need nor want a character named SuperGIRL sexualized in any way. Sorry.

A lot of that has to do with it cramming the pilot into one hour. Now that intro is out of the way, the character's should have more time to breath.

As the father of 2 girls, I can say I'm happy to see a female hero finally being done and being treated seriously.

It's been a while, but surely you haven't forgotten about Buffy?

Before I watch it with my girl. Would you recommend it for a 6 year old?

I though it was pretty good. Not great, but not horrible. To me the tone was just a bit off throughout. Maybe a bit too flippant about fairly serious personality changes that just occur at the drop of a hat. I will continue to watch unless the quality starts to drop off.

Maybe I'm getting old, but the spandex outfit part made me uncomfortable because she looks and acts like she is 15. I do not need nor want a character named SuperGIRL sexualized in any way. Sorry.

Yeah but the comic version is 16 and wears just as skimpy an outfit I don't think you can blame the tv guys for that.

It's been a while, but surely you haven't forgotten about Buffy?

True, but neither seem interested in it.

Before I watch it with my girl. Would you recommend it for a 6 year old?

I don't see why not. There's fighting and other typical superhero fare, but nothing I'd consider inappropriate for someone that age.

How's it compare to flash? That's by far the strongest dc show atm.

I like the Flash better all in all. But that show has such a strong cast that it will be hard to beat. But I'd say Supergirl could become just as good if it's given the chance. The special effects in Flash are IMO superior, but again that may be because they learned stuff with Arrow and had a better idea how to make it work for Flash.

But to be fair, the Flash FX stuff is somewhat limited... compared to Supergirl, it's mostly blur effects and red/yellow streaks. Although they did a great job in the show with Firestorm, a character I was a huge fan of.

Superman has always been about Hope and Justice and the like, Supergirl looks to be the same. I got the feeling that Kara always felt like she should be making a difference but didn't use her powers out of respect for her sister. So it wasn't that she didn't want to use them, but rather she was doing it to protect her family.

What was the issue with the color of her hair? She looked suitably blonde to me.

Comic nerds. If she isn't super blonde, then they got it wrong. They can be super anal about the minor details.

Comic nerds. If she isn't super blonde, then they got it wrong.

Ahhh, since she's a "natural" blonde rather than platinum bottle blond they don't like it. My brother and both my daughters are natural blondes, and she has the same hair color as them.

I'm surprised they're not more up in arms about Jimmy being black. Although I didn't do much reading or research about the show, so maybe they have been. That change didn't bother me and I actually think it's a good thing. But it is a departure from the canon, unless that was changed in 52 somewhere... I really never kept up much with DC comics even when I was a kid and still don't.

Yeah but the comic version is 16 and wears just as skimpy an outfit I don't think you can blame the tv guys for that.

That's what I liked. I really liked the fact that they showed her in a skimpy one and she made the comment "I wouldn't even wear that to be beach." I'm a guy so I can appreciate a beautiful woman in a skimpy outfit. But I think the show is much stronger by taking the stance so early that she will not be exploited as a sex object or eye candy.

I also really like they went with the classic and IMO better looking costume for her, then some of the ones I've seen.

From the group I observed, I think people were more upset that Jimmy was hot rather than black. Though you still had a good contingent upset over race changing.

I think people were more upset that Jimmy was hot rather than black.

I can see why either would be an issue. The black thing was hard to miss, but Jimmy has never been more than a secondary character and mostly used as a weakness.

One thing I found interesting is, it seemed that Kara felt a spark when she met him. So that might end being a romance down the road.

But it is interesting how often fans can be their own worst enemy. I remember reading a list of things wrong with the Fellowship of the Ring movie, and one of the complaints someone made was that the table at the console of Elrond was the wrong shape.

Well, we all know who the obvious example is on this site...

I wonder if supergirl had decided to be a stay home mom, if everyone would look down on her for raising a family instead of going out and being a super hero.

WTF?

@Sithborg: That made me chuckle.

I get it, I wasn't really responding to the show directly, so the reply was fitting. But that was the spurious thought that came to mind - what if the show was about an invincible, invulnerable person who rather than dressing up in costume and saving the world, chose to live a life of humble obscurity - would her dignity as a woman still be considered acceptable. That may have been off topic, but this is the "off topic" forum....

I didn't see the show, but I appreciate and have enjoyed reading the review and subsequent comments.

I wonder if supergirl had decided to be a stay home mom, if everyone would look down on her for raising a family instead of going out and being a super hero.

My wife is a stay at home mom, so I'd have no issue with that. I don't think doing so makes you any less important.

It would however not make for a very entertaining TV show. You can only use the 'lifting up the couch to vacuum under it' so many times.

However part of Superman, like Spider-man has always been "with great power comes great responsibility" and I think that was something they touched on in the pilot, the fact that Kara could be doing more and has a moral obligation to do as much as she can.

They seemed to say that the fact that she was a woman doesn't mean anything, she has the same responsibility to use her powers as Superman does. Also that she hasn't really been living up to her potential to help those around her.

Honestly being a stay at home mom wouldn't prevent her from still being a superhero, the only thing that would change is what she does for a day job. Her dignity as a woman has nothing to do with her job, it has everything to do with how much she can do for others, and in fact man or woman doesn't and really shouldn't factor into it.

The only part that IMO really has her gender as a factor, is what her costume looks like and as I said, I appreciate that the show felt they could have a strong female character who can carry the show without needing to resort to sex to sell it.

I was a stay at home dad for a year...

Stay at home moms are superheroes. End of argument.

To digress a bit, and this may sound a bit prudish...

But one thing that bothers me is when a show uses sex to sell it. Because it comes off far too often as the producers behind the show don't think it can stand on it's own merit so they need to sex it up to get people to watch it.

Two IMO blatant examples of this are Spartacus and Lost Girl. In both cases sex makes sense, Lost Girl is about a succubus, and the other Rome where that was likely how things really went.

But both bordered on or even crossed the line to softcore porn, and IMO both shows were good enough that they didn't need to make it so blatant. In fact I think both shows would of been better off without it, because they would of reached a broader audience.

Lost Girls was IMO the worse, because it was a great show, with a cool background and good cast. Again the fact that she feeds on sex isn't lost on me, but they could've been more discreet with it, and still had the same effect. Plus they really seemed to do it solely for the sake of ratings and it seemed fairly clear that's why. It had this feeling of 'well the show can only make it if we have smoking hot women making out with each other'

So I appreciate that Supergirl is activating avoiding having eye candy and truly letting the heroine stand on her own.

Well, we all know who the obvious example is on this site...

That, sir, is slander!

That, sir, is slander!

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From the group I observed, I think people were more upset that Jimmy was hot rather than black. Though you still had a good contingent upset over race changing.

Making him black doesn't bother me nor did Johnny storm, but yeah Jimmy isn't a cool guy so they should of made him a geeky ginger, at this point he's Jimmy in name only so why not just make him a new character?

Are black people not allowed to be nerdy and wear bow ties or be ginger, Hollywood your bigotry mildly simmer's my blood!!!

Funnily though the dc fanboy in my group hates supergirl purely because of the race change.

Are black people not allowed to be nerdy and wear bow ties or be ginger...

Well I'm pretty sure there's no black people who are naturally gingers. To be fair on the Flash, Cisco is pretty nerdy and he's not white. I give the show big props for having him wear a Big Bang Theory tshirt since Sheldon wears a Flash one all the time.

But I agree that the subtle bigotry is still kinda a problem. The fanboy... Wow I just don't get that. Why would anyone hate the whole of something, over a single and fairly small portion of it? Just makes no sense to me. If that was the final straw or something I'd understand. But far too often people will reject the whole show or movie over one fairly small and really meaningless thing.