Raider's Role

By Mikael Hasselstein, in Star Wars: Armada

The Raider is a Flak and FlaRak Torpedo Assault Ship.

FlaRak is AAM btw

Edited by TheRealStarkiller

What's AA? What's AAA?

Bloody initialisms...

AA is quite the ironic term to use. i think AS is more to the point. That said what they mean is Anti-Squadron.

Warning: i'm a newb. SO take this with a grain of salt. THat said i've been war gaming for some time, and feel i have a loose grasp on the rules:

As Green Knight has so artfully stated: Ship suck against fighters unless you have a ffew ships to shoot at said fighter. Wasting a whole hull zone to shoot even 5 squadron is probably the most depressing thing you can do, but if you use extended comms to throw your fighters into all of his ships without also getting your own ship in range. Your basically giving your squads away for free.

I think the raider pairs well with expanded hangers and 2 good squads. The raider is fast enough that it'll keep up with the squads to provide cover fire or you could use it to engage enemy squads right before they get to move (which will ignore intel, grit, and maybe IG-88).. Give it Vader, Mauler, Bombers, Dengar, or Jump master-5000, Makes for a very cheap and very effective unit.

Edit: it's like a corvette that actually has fighters that don't slow it down??

Edited by mmimzie

The Raider is a Flak and FlaRak Torpedo Assault Ship.

FlaRak is AAM btw

Now you're just making **** up :D

Edited by DiabloAzul

Black dice stand for Missiles and Torpedos. Black AA Dice is AA-Missiles, Blue AA dice is Flak :P

Black dice stand for Missiles and Torpedos. Black AA Dice is AA-Missiles, Blue AA dice is Flak :P

You being pedantic on one initial, while using initials that stand for Anti- AIR craft when we're talking about Space! Um...

Classic German sense of "humor" :P

Thanks DiabloAzul and mmimzie.

To minimize trips to the glossary though, could I request that we stick to terms that people familiar with the rules might be able to work out themselves, such as AS, (or ideally avoid initialisms altogether, at east until they've been named in full in a recent post)? Would make it easier on the less hardcore amongst us to keep up, thus making for a more inclusive forum.

Black dice stand for Missiles and Torpedos. Black AA Dice is AA-Missiles, Blue AA dice is Flak :P

You being pedantic on one initial, while using initials that stand for Anti- AIR craft when we're talking about Space! Um...

Its not like I invented it ...

You hardly can call it Anti-Spacecraft if there are only spacecraft in space ... or you are down to 'gun' simply

Classic German sense of "humor" :P

I can't sense any humor in my posts.

Well yeah, neither can we, that's my point :D

Black dice stand for Missiles and Torpedos. Black AA Dice is AA-Missiles, Blue AA dice is Flak :P

You being pedantic on one initial, while using initials that stand for Anti- AIR craft when we're talking about Space! Um...

Its not like I invented it ...

You hardly can call it Anti-Spacecraft if there are only spacecraft in space ... or you are down to 'gun' simply

I prefer AS = anti-squadron

Of course you could also have AS = anti-ship

So really we're only talking about which specific way we'd like to be wrong. :P

Black dice stand for Missiles and Torpedos. Black AA Dice is AA-Missiles, Blue AA dice is Flak :P

You being pedantic on one initial, while using initials that stand for Anti- AIR craft when we're talking about Space! Um...

Its not like I invented it ...

You hardly can call it Anti-Spacecraft if there are only spacecraft in space ... or you are down to 'gun' simply

I prefer AS = anti-squadron

Of course you could also have AS = anti-ship

So really we're only talking about which specific way we'd like to be wrong. :P

To be specific in any way, you would need to call it AFBW: Anti Fighter and Bomber Weaponary, while weaponary includes all AA guns and AA ordnance.

Well yeah, neither can we, that's my point :D

So there is no point at all?

Not in making silly suggestions (FlaRak? AFBW?), when something simple like AS will do just fine :)

Guys, dont make this appreviation thingy more complex than it already is.. we all got used to AS=Anti Ship and AA = Anti Aircraft. No aircraft? Theres probably air inside the craft, so problemo solved!

FlaRak means Flugabwehrrakete means Anti Aircraft Missiles (AAM)

AS is Advanced Sensors :P

Guys, dont make this appreviation thingy more complex than it already is.. we all got used to AS=Anti Ship and AA = Anti Aircraft. No aircraft? Theres probably air inside the craft, so problemo solved!

I'm having no problem with AA or Flak.

Well yeah, neither can we, that's my point :D

I lol'd

Well yeah, neither can we, that's my point :D

I lol'd

Don't write it, just do it.

Ha! Guess "something simple like AS" won't do after all :D

Hesekiel, my group (and many others in these forums) us AS for anti-squadron, so I don't think "we all got used" to the opposite :D

Flak works. From random dictionary site:

1938, from German Flak , condensed from Fliegerabwehrkanone, literally "pilot warding-off cannon."

Of course the problem there is Flieger is probably better translated as "flier". Do we fly in space? (NASA uses the term space flight, we're a go!)

It does have the historical connection making it better than AS. Of course historical Flak was explosive shells, but I'm confident the Germans would have used lasers as Flak had the technology been ready.

Edited by Tranenturm

Were we talking about something?

Explosive lasers is better than explosive shells.

"Schießen die explodierenden Lasern!"

(See how cool that sounds?)

Edited by Rocmistro

Leave those tiny raiders to patrolling for smugglers and pirates and the like. Take a proper ship into naval engagements like any true Imperial would: as a rule of thumb, if a ship is smaller than 500 meters or doesn't have 'Star Destroyer" in its name its not worth bringing.

Edited by Lord Tareq

Leave those tiny raiders to patrolling for smugglers and pirates and the like. Take a proper ship into naval engagements like any true Imperial would: as a rule of thumb, if a ship is smaller than 500 meters or doesn't have 'Star Destroyer" in its name its not worth bringing.

True. Look what happened to Tantive IV when it faced (or rather: fled from) the Devastator: it got eaten whole