Soon, every X-Wing expansion will include a dial ID token for you to use with your plastic maneuver dials if you so choose.

Did anyone else catch that?

So does this also mean that every starter pack is also getting updated?

Are they just going to include the chit? Or is the entire cardboard getting updated? If so, this is quite a significant expenditure for FFG.

And while they're adding the Dial ID Token, are they going to make any other changes?

(Seems like a good time to add the exclusive cards from SWX01 Starter Packs to the T-65 and TIE and then EOL SWX01.)

No. You are misinterpreting what they are saying. They are saying that the future expansions will have the id tokens. Considering that the dial upgrade packs has the previous ships, there is no reason to add them to the old packs. And nothing indicates that they are updating old packs.

And why the hell would they include stuff from the starter in packs of incompatable ships?

Soon, every X-Wing expansion will include a dial ID token for you to use with your plastic maneuver dials if you so choose.

Did anyone else catch that?

So does this also mean that every starter pack is also getting updated?

Are they just going to include the chit? Or is the entire cardboard getting updated? If so, this is quite a significant expenditure for FFG.

And while they're adding the Dial ID Token, are they going to make any other changes?

(Seems like a good time to add the exclusive cards from SWX01 Starter Packs to the T-65 and TIE and then EOL SWX01.)

I'm afraid they will just include an ID token.

Also, context is key.

Soon, every X-Wing expansion will include a dial ID token for you to use with your plastic maneuver dials if you so choose. These will begin with the Ghost Expansion Pack, the Mist Hunter Expansion Pack, the Punishing One Expansion Pack, and the Inquisitor’s TIE Expansion Pack. Standard cardboard maneuver dials will still be included in each expansion.

They are clearly talking about the future expansions.

No dude, only the X-wing expansions, y-wings, Starvipers and the rest are just S.O.L.

Right?

Are those things even gonna sell? It's a struggle carrying the cardboard ones I have so many and the new ones look quite a bit bulkier.

Works well for armada as they are in from the start but how many want to risk ruining dials trying to prise apart perfectly decent dials.

Coloured bases are easy enough to swap over but these things just puzzle me.

Are those things even gonna sell? It's a struggle carrying the cardboard ones I have so many and the new ones look quite a bit bulkier.

Works well for armada as they are in from the start but how many want to risk ruining dials trying to prise apart perfectly decent dials.

Coloured bases are easy enough to swap over but these things just puzzle me.

I'm probably going to end up with a couple of packs of each faction and just swap in the dials of whatever I happen to be running at the time. I really like the open face that lets you see all of the moves available on the dial.

The article also said:

"A pack of maneuver dials includes three dial ID tokens for every ship from the T-65 X-wing and TIE Fighter in the original X-Wing Core Set, up to the T-70 X-wing and TIE/fo fighter from Star Wars: The Force Awakens!"

So you will get tokens for the old stuff and new expansions will include the tokens.

Are those things even gonna sell? It's a struggle carrying the cardboard ones I have so many and the new ones look quite a bit bulkier.

Works well for armada as they are in from the start but how many want to risk ruining dials trying to prise apart perfectly decent dials.

Coloured bases are easy enough to swap over but these things just puzzle me.

It really won't help mirror matches if everyone get them, do your part and don't

Seriously though, I haven't fully upgraded to acrylic and that is more important than a $3 dial protector.

I may grab a few for my favorite pilots or ace but not for everything.

To sum up what the majority of comments on the new dials are saying: "I think this new product is stupid and you're stupid if you like it. You're even stupider if you don't know exactly what's in the package already, so take your stupid musings on this stupid product elsewhere, stupid. MWAAAAH."

For my part, I think they're pretty cool. I also realize they're probably a product that is targeted at me, as I'm a guy that 1) is fortunate enough to have some disposable income, 2) has no other gaming hobbies to compete with X-Wing, 3) already owns more ships (and the dials that come with them) than could ever be fielded in a single Standard squad, 4) hates how my cardboard dials have been torn up by carelessly closing you Plano storage boxes on the edges, 5) really enjoys being able to use extra swag like acrylic tokens (I'll be getting a bunch of colored bases and pegs as well), and 6) struggles to continue to justify giving my dollars to FFG and, more importantly, my FLGS to justify the way they support my hobby.

So given all that, I'll offer a counterpoint tommy of the comments on the new dials: to me, they're pretty cool and exciting enough that I might have glossed over some of the contextual details in the product description. That doesn't make me (or anyone else) stupid, and I can guarantee you it makes my girlfriend happy as Christmas approaches because now she knows exactly what X-Wing stuff to get me!

Are those things even gonna sell? It's a struggle carrying the cardboard ones I have so many and the new ones look quite a bit bulkier.

Works well for armada as they are in from the start but how many want to risk ruining dials trying to prise apart perfectly decent dials.

Coloured bases are easy enough to swap over but these things just puzzle me.

Are those things even gonna sell? It's a struggle carrying the cardboard ones I have so many and the new ones look quite a bit bulkier.

Works well for armada as they are in from the start but how many want to risk ruining dials trying to prise apart perfectly decent dials.

Coloured bases are easy enough to swap over but these things just puzzle me.

It really won't help mirror matches if everyone get them, do your part and don't

Seriously though, I haven't fully upgraded to acrylic and that is more important than a $3 dial protector.

I may grab a few for my favorite pilots or ace but not for everything.

As for selling this is probably going to be the case. People will upgrade their tournament squadron list and leave the rest as cardboard. As for separating the dials yeah that's going to be tricky but it can be done. and if you end up damaging the dial you probably can contact customer service and tell them the issue and have them send you a replacement cardboard dial that is un-assembled so you could put them into the upgrade shell.

If you look at FFGs product pricing and business models the expenses is all covered in the the plastic model themselves with the cardboard punchouts being negligible in price costs. The major expense of the expansion packs is the ship model and everything else is pretty much covered in the mark up of the expansion pack. As a customer that has already bought a core set or 3 expansion packs as well as the dial upgrade kits, FFG has realized that they already made their profit and sending you 3 extra cardboard punchouts will not put them in the red.

As for separating the dials yeah that's going to be tricky but it can be done.

Separating the dials is actually pretty easy. Just slip the edge of a blade (a putty knife works fine) between the plastic and cardboard and pry a bit. Once you've got it moving a bit fingers work just fine.

As for separating the dials yeah that's going to be tricky but it can be done.

Separating the dials is actually pretty easy. Just slip the edge of a blade (a putty knife works fine) between the plastic and cardboard and pry a bit. Once you've got it moving a bit fingers work just fine.

I dunno sounds like it takes some effort, which is more than i'm willing to contribute to any task.

As for separating the dials yeah that's going to be tricky but it can be done.

Separating the dials is actually pretty easy. Just slip the edge of a blade (a putty knife works fine) between the plastic and cardboard and pry a bit. Once you've got it moving a bit fingers work just fine.

I dunno sounds like it takes some effort, which is more than i'm willing to contribute to any task.

Yeah, if a couple of seconds worth of work is too much effort then using these dial housings is right out.

As for separating the dials yeah that's going to be tricky but it can be done.

Separating the dials is actually pretty easy. Just slip the edge of a blade (a putty knife works fine) between the plastic and cardboard and pry a bit. Once you've got it moving a bit fingers work just fine.

I dunno sounds like it takes some effort, which is more than i'm willing to contribute to any task.

Yeah, if a couple of seconds worth of work is too much effort then using these dial housings is right out.

Right.

As for separating the dials yeah that's going to be tricky but it can be done.

Separating the dials is actually pretty easy. Just slip the edge of a blade (a putty knife works fine) between the plastic and cardboard and pry a bit. Once you've got it moving a bit fingers work just fine.

I dunno sounds like it takes some effort, which is more than i'm willing to contribute to any task.

Yeah, if a couple of seconds worth of work is too much effort then using these dial housings is right out.

Right.

Wouldn't want to strain myself or, God-forbid, break a sweat.

I like these. But I'm not sure about how many I would need. The question I have is how easy are the plastic ones to pull back apart? Then I can get two for each faction and just take apart all my dials and keep only the backs swapping in the ones for the squad I want to use.

I like these. But I'm not sure about how many I would need. The question I have is how easy are the plastic ones to pull back apart? Then I can get two for each faction and just take apart all my dials and keep only the backs swapping in the ones for the squad I want to use.

They look like the armada command dials. If so it'll be a snap to change out the dial. Not sure about the ID token though.

So will people be pulling apart their acrylic dials to put in the new holders?

I don't know why people think these are more space.

Seperate all your dials and only keep the bottom half in your storage box is a massive storage savings.

Put 5-7 plastic dials for each faction in your storage container and have plenty of dials to cover any build. Win on storage.

... gozanti?

Are those things even gonna sell? It's a struggle carrying the cardboard ones I have so many and the new ones look quite a bit bulkier.

Works well for armada as they are in from the start but how many want to risk ruining dials trying to prise apart perfectly decent dials.

Coloured bases are easy enough to swap over but these things just puzzle me.

I'm probably going to end up with a couple of packs of each faction and just swap in the dials of whatever I happen to be running at the time. I really like the open face that lets you see all of the moves available on the dial.

I hope this works. I looks like the Id may not pop in and out so easily. That will hurt being able to swap them out.

As for separating the dials yeah that's going to be tricky but it can be done.

Separating the dials is actually pretty easy. Just slip the edge of a blade (a putty knife works fine) between the plastic and cardboard and pry a bit. Once you've got it moving a bit fingers work just fine.

I dunno sounds like it takes some effort, which is more than i'm willing to contribute to any task.

But don't you help those who help themselves. So if you help yourself you know that you'll always be there to help you too... errr...wait... ouch

Are those things even gonna sell? It's a struggle carrying the cardboard ones I have so many and the new ones look quite a bit bulkier.

Works well for armada as they are in from the start but how many want to risk ruining dials trying to prise apart perfectly decent dials.

Coloured bases are easy enough to swap over but these things just puzzle me.

I'm probably going to end up with a couple of packs of each faction and just swap in the dials of whatever I happen to be running at the time. I really like the open face that lets you see all of the moves available on the dial.

I hope this works. I looks like the Id may not pop in and out so easily. That will hurt being able to swap them out.

I'm guessing the ID token pushes into place from the dial side of the cover and is held in place by the dial itself. When swapping them out, it'll probably come out pretty easily.

I wonder if constantly swapping out the dials will wear them out so that they will spin to freely on the center? I will probably pass on these, but if I don't I still don't think I would constantly swap them out.