Wait. How can you shoot that ISD at all with your MC30? You don't have LOS from either side, and boy that arc is dubious.
LOS only gets blocked by the defending ship? Not your own?
I had the same question. And I didn't think the Torp Shrimp had a slot for TRC
The LoS issue was addressed above.
TRC is a Turbolaser upgrade, which is weird for the torpedo shrimp to have with no inherent red dice, but... Eh.
The real question we're all missing is, how'd you get so much wave 2?
We had four Massings at Sullust in San Antone. My opponent placed first and second in two and TO'd another; I nabbed a third, third, and fourth. So between us, we have a copy of everything and a duplicate MC30. I'm borrowing his pickle with associated upgrades; he's borrowing my Jumpmaster, and a Raider from another dude.
And until you pointed that out, it didn't hit me that we were both running 100% Wave 2 ships in that game. Our group is all kind of trying out a bunch of ridiculous ideas with the new stuff to see what sticks.
This game is too rules crazy. Lol.good shot though.
Not really. Now 40k.. . THAT is rule intensive.
Go to a game store and find a 40k book and read the rules section.
That double arc looks close. Buts it more of a I almost took out a ISD with a double arc shot
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Wow picky, picky everyone! I think some of us are missing the fact that a little shrimp has the capability to really deliver a knockout punch to an ISD.
Not really
Anyone can tell the shrimp hits in the realm of the GSD with 5 goddamn dice in the side and 3 in the front
That's nearly Yavaris Bwings level of damage
We had four Massings at Sullust in San Antone. My opponent placed first and second in two and TO'd another; I nabbed a third, third, and fourth. So between us, we have a copy of everything and a duplicate MC30. I'm borrowing his pickle with associated upgrades; he's borrowing my Jumpmaster, and a Raider from another dude.
And until you pointed that out, it didn't hit me that we were both running 100% Wave 2 ships in that game. Our group is all kind of trying out a bunch of ridiculous ideas with the new stuff to see what sticks.
Huh... I guess we did. Didn't even think about it.
Not really
Anyone can tell the shrimp hits in the realm of the GSD with 5 goddamn dice in the side and 3 in the front
That's nearly Yavaris Bwings level of damage
The comparison for me was a bit different.
I fired three red dice, two blue, and three black at the shrimp off the front of my heavy battlecruiser.
He then fired two red, two blue, and three black back.... TWICE off of his itty bitty four hull frigate.
Basically, a pair of ISDs fired back.
You mean an ISD fired on you (twice)
Missing a red die, though
You mean an ISD fired on you (twice)
Missing a red die, though
One from each, true.
He made up for it by adding a black die then re-rolling it to score four hit/crits.
Still, I looked at the little shrimp, then at the pile of dice, then at my own armament like "But... but... I'm supposed to have the big ship..."
Lol classic...
I think one of the ffg guys, maybe Paul, said that the mc30 is the hardest hitting ship when he was interviewed at gencon.
You mean an ISD fired on you (twice)
Missing a red die, though
One from each, true.
He made up for it by adding a black die then re-rolling it to score four hit/crits.
Still, I looked at the little shrimp, then at the pile of dice, then at my own armament like "But... but... I'm supposed to have the big ship..."
You do
But just like the GSD, the shrimp is stuffed full of missiles
This game is too rules crazy. Lol.good shot though.
Not really. Now 40k.. . THAT is rule intensive.
Go to a game store and find a 40k book and read the rules section.
Much as you're probably right, there are actually a lot of people who don't get much of an appeal from rulesy games such as 40k for a reason.
Also, this has beeen bleating like 5000000 times since Xwing.
Wait. How can you shoot that ISD at all with your MC30? You don't have LOS from either side, and boy that arc is dubious.
LOS only gets blocked by the defending ship? Not your own?
I had the same question. And I didn't think the Torp Shrimp had a slot for TRC
The LoS issue was addressed above.
TRC is a Turbolaser upgrade, which is weird for the torpedo shrimp to have with no inherent red dice, but... Eh.
SWAFT has no turbolaser for the torp version. (That has ord and ions). The scout has turbolaser.
Which one did he use?
edit: looks like youre right. ... they both have right-side-pointing icons... which is turbo?
http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/mc30c-frigate-cards.png
SWAFT is wrong if so.
(Although its really silly, it should be ion cannons).
SWAFT is wrong. And yes, I agree it probably should be ion instead of turbo's.
SWAFT is wrong. And yes, I agree it probably should be ion instead of turbo's.
I don't see why. You guys already have a fast, mobile ion platform.
The pairing of a Turbolaser upgrade slot with black/blue dice does *seem* odd, but then it's also the only style of weapon upgrade slot whose crits are NOT die color dependent so...
I'm not saying I don't love the fact that it's a Turbolaser upgrade. Just thematically weird.
True, you could go with XI7 and try to shut down brace with blue dice ... thats just evil.
or Scout Shrimp with x17s backed up by Home One
SWAFT is wrong. And yes, I agree it probably should be ion instead of turbo's.
I don't see why. You guys already have a fast, mobile ion platform.
The pairing of a Turbolaser upgrade slot with black/blue dice does *seem* odd, but then it's also the only style of weapon upgrade slot whose crits are NOT die color dependent so...
The (sole) Home One accuracy shut down the brace, and he was able to redirect 2 points to one side, allowing 8 damage through to the hull for a total of 10/11 hull damage.
This is why I very much favor the ISD-II over the I. ECM is worth its weight in gold.
Yeah, I've kind of wondered what would have happened if there had been an ECM in play. Probably accuracied it on the first, smaller attack, which would have let him redirect away 3 damage to one side, leaving 1 on the front, so he almost certainly wouldn't have burnt ECM to brace it, knowing the second shot was coming. Then on the second shot, I would use the Intel Officer on brace and the accuracy on... Probably also on brace, I dint know but let's say I did. That's 1 to the hull from ACM, 2 shields left on the other side, then he'll ECM and burn brace to brace down to 5 damage, redirect 2 to the other side, 1 gets eaten by the last shield on the nose, which means 2 more get through to the hull for a grand total of 3 damage on the hull and 2 shields left on the rear zone. So ECM allowed mitigation of... 7 damage that would otherwise be on the hull, at the cost of 3 more shields and the burned brace token. Not a bad investment.
The catch is, in this case, it was a carrier, so if Tvayumat had gone for the ISD-2, it would have cost him either the Boosted Comms (crucial) or the Expanded Hangar Bay (less crucial), and the price difference would probably have also cost him one of those damned TIE bombers. Both of those are costs I'm very happy inflicting on him.
I actually 2 shot an ISD with an MC80 assault cruiser with Ackbar, Defiance and XI7 that my opponent unwisely gave me advanced gunnery on. I had damage left over too. I think the lesson here is that large ships are large and tanky, but can easily die from full health in a single turn. Gone are the core set days where it felt like the rebels had to throw everything at they had at a VSD to hopefully kill it on turn 6.
Didn't they change it in the errata so your arcs now block line of sight between yellow dots?
