By the way, I think we can put the slagging of JJ behind us.
I can't think of a single visual element in this trailer that made it any more Star Wars than the previous trailer, and that's before the "dialogue".
But what is there to gain from this negativity in an overwhelmingly positive environment?
Woot! Got my Alamo Drafthouse tickets!
One of the scenes. The fighter battle over snow(?) plains? Did DICE know about it when making Battlefront?. Certainly looks familiar
PS. Love the trailer. In JJ we trust.
I have achieved Star Wars satori (there's a play on words here, I'm sure): The feeling that the original trilogy and the Timothy Zahn novels gave me as a child can never be recaptured...but that is the way of things, the way of the Force. They belong to a past that defines me and my present experience of fandom, but I know that the person I am now could no longer be moved by them the way I was back then.
This....this is something else. Something new and different, maybe even something great. I was injured by my disappointment in the prequels - a disappointment bred of the expectation that they be something they simply could not ever be .
I'm older now. Older and, dare I say, wiser. There was a time in which it felt wise to protect myself from the kind of disappointment I felt at the end of Episode I. Now, wisdom tells me to open my heart to something new; to embrace the possibility that I might be moved again but in a completely different way.
So I don't feel ashamed anymore to admit that I have A New Hope. I don't feel like my childhood love of this universe is in any way cheapened by the fact that Disney knows exactly which heart strings to tug at in this ad campaign. I'll give them my money, but they already have my trust. If I'm disappointed again in December, so be it, but for now I feel like a little boy again, and that in itself is something special.
Mmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Yes, I am happy.
Adam Driver is Kylo Ren.
EDIT: Luke doesn't have wavy black hair and knows how to make a lightsaber, as well. Wouldn't Kylo being Luke kind of undermine the ENTIRE Original Trilogy?
Not the first time that two actors played the same character, Mark is getting old for fast lightsaber fights... unless we want a fight like Obi-Wan Vs Darth Vader on the Death Star again.
I just think that it is VERY strange that he's not on ANY marketing of the movie, including the poster. Every character is seen except for him. Only picture we saw of him is at the start as an old beardy Luke, kinda like Obi-Wan. Maybe the picture was meant to throw us off. Then in the trailer, we see a mechanic hand and that's it, no face. We can only assume that it's him. Again, maybe to throw us off.
I'm not saying that it's him, but that's a possibility. Maybe that's why Han look so grimm about the past. Something bad happened. Maybe Luke turned to the dark side.
I could tell you but it will spoil some of the story for you..If you seek answers, they are there to find, the net is vast and sweeping. I have read the spoilers and seen the videos.. JJ has let slip some of the truth of the movie, he knows people want it and that people are releasing info from the crew and such..
Read Aftermath. Much more of this trailer and who the characters are will make sense to you.
Also... maybe a 1/3 of the movie has been reviled. No Luke, no C3-P0, a flash of R2-D2. They are keeping so much of this movie a secret. I love it!
Star Wars without C3-P0 (although I find him highly annoying) and R2-D2 is not Star Wars. When everyone dies, those 2 silly droids remain.
Trailer felt a bit meh to me. It's so flashy like a trailer of any other sci-fi/action flick. It shows dogfighting X-wings and Tie's in different settings tho
Poe wondered if the stories she heard were true, which might mean that the Rebellion might not have been that succesfull in establishing their new Republic. This would make sense as the Imperial Fleet at Endor was probably less than 0,1% the size of the Imperial fleet altogether (tens? of thousands SD's), while the Rebellion probably pitted their whole fleet against them.
I have achieved Star Wars satori (there's a play on words here, I'm sure): The feeling that the original trilogy and the Timothy Zahn novels gave me as a child can never be recaptured...but that is the way of things, the way of the Force. They belong to a past that defines me and my present experience of fandom, but I know that the person I am now could no longer be moved by them the way I was back then.
This....this is something else. Something new and different, maybe even something great. I was injured by my disappointment in the prequels - a disappointment bred of the expectation that they be something they simply could not ever be .
I'm older now. Older and, dare I say, wiser. There was a time in which it felt wise to protect myself from the kind of disappointment I felt at the end of Episode I. Now, wisdom tells me to open my heart to something new; to embrace the possibility that I might be moved again but in a completely different way.
So I don't feel ashamed anymore to admit that I have A New Hope. I don't feel like my childhood love of this universe is in any way cheapened by the fact that Disney knows exactly which heart strings to tug at in this ad campaign. I'll give them my money, but they already have my trust. If I'm disappointed again in December, so be it, but for now I feel like a little boy again, and that in itself is something special.
I used to have dreams about the next Star Wars movies, when they were like the mythical reboot of Firefly.
I dreamed about vast bases inside asteroids, sleek star destroyers and a desert planet full of junk.
This is that movie, straight out of my dreams - different but the same.
My first thoughts on the trailer.
I need a moment please ... ... ...
And a Wompa sized towel. I have something in my eye.
My thoughts after looking through screen shots of the trailer (Thank The Force for HD).
Traditionally The Empire's Super Weapon Turbolasers
{TM}
are green, there seams to be a large red beam that can be seen from the bridge of the Star Destroyer which is in this trailer's 50 second mark.
I'm almost positive that's the ruins of a docking bay Rey is rappelling into in the opening of the trailer. Possibly a Star Destroyer.
Possibly Lupita Nyong'o's voice in the trailer?
My biggest take away from this trailer
:
It's rather telling that the events of the Original Trilogy — Episodes VI, V and VI — have themselves become somewhat
mythologized
in the Star Wars universe.
“
There were stories about what happened
,” says Rey in a voiceover.
“
It’s true. All of it. The Dark Side. The Jedi. They’re real
,” responds Han Solo.
I dig it.
Look, there was some bad stuff in the EU, but there was a lot of good stuff, too. And for the most part, the books following Return of the Jedi followed a story you would logically expect, given where the trilogy left off. Han marries Leia, Luke trains Jedi, Leia learns the Force, the Empire is overturned, the republic is restored, etc. And even as it did that, it told fun stories I love and remember.S'hard to spit into a Spatoon and call it ruined.I feel you, but when I heard the part in the trailer about the "stories being true", I just totally related it as a nod to legends canon. To me it seems that some of our beloved EU stories can come true or at the very least can be genuine stories in these films.This trailer makes me .... sad.
It really hit home how much I'll miss the old stories. I'm still excited for this. I just think the EU will live on in my heart, even as I explore this new timeline.
I don't think that's anywhere near what that implies. They've done nothing but spit on or steal from the EU.
This new story line starts you at Return of the Jedi and then completely K-turns and goes a different direction. It seems so forced. And it kinda spits in the face of the original trilogy, if you think about it. Star Wars was renamed as Star Wars: A New Hope. Luke was that new hope. He helped his father bring balance to the Force. And now he's missing and the Jedi are gone? The Empire didn't get destroyed? It just doesn't jive with what the previous 6 movies were building up to. It makes it seem like all the suffering of the original trilogy was for naught.
I'm not anti TFA, and I'm not boycotting the movie. I'm as excited for it as the next guy. But I also love the EU and will defend it when people want to call it a spittoon.
Also Luke can be a New Hope in his later years. They didn't specify that his accomplishments would all happen publicly by 21.
By the way, I think we can put the slagging of JJ behind us.
I can't think of a single visual element in this trailer that made it any more Star Wars than the previous trailer, and that's before the "dialogue".
But what is there to gain from this negativity in an overwhelmingly positive environment?
Because the positivity is a lie?
When they announced this thing, my reaction was positive. But every glimpse since then has tried its hardest to make it LESS Star Wars.
I don't know which of their choices did it. I don't know if they could have changed director, actors, hired less yes-men or more no-men. I don't know where their folly came from. I just know that I see it in every element of every trailer.
They need to smack Abrams every time he tries to put lens-flare in a scene. The colour grading looks off. All of the lines sound read , not said. They've depracticalised a ton of machinery (and I'm not talking physical vs CGI, I'm talking design ; stupid plastic bits on blasters, the iTrooper armour, surface detail on the TIEs, heck, the bit with the TIE falling out of space has one of the worst misapplications of specular that I've ever seen)...
If I could find things to like I would like them, but they either aren't there or they don't want to put them in the trailers.
I feel sorry for you.
I can't think of a single visual element in this trailer that made it any more Star Wars than the previous trailer, and that's before the "dialogue".By the way, I think we can put the slagging of JJ behind us.
Positivity feels good man.
Rey looks a bit like Shmi Skywalker.
Rey looks a bit like Shmi Skywalker.
There may or may not be a distinct reason for that.
Although I'm not as hyped as I was when the second teaser arrived, it still brought tears of joy to my eyes. I mean, all the implications that are made in the trailer leave so many directions for the story to go from there. What about Luke? Will he appear in a role like Obi-Wan, as a mentor, or has he become a legend by now and lives in exile? What about Vader's mask? Did Kylo Ren go on some kind of Sith artifact hunt to retrieve the charred remains of the chosen one? Has the Empire fully recovered from the heavy blow or were they forced to downsize considerably?
I have to say that I'm not at all familiar with the EU. I have also avoided any info and speculations about the new films apart from the trailers.
So far, I have a good feeling about this. I feel like I'm six years old again, watching Jedi on my aunt's VCR.
And it kinda spits in the face of the original trilogy, if you think about it. Star Wars was renamed as Star Wars: A New Hope. Luke was that new hope. He helped his father bring balance to the Force.
Ah, no. The line about "bringing balance to the Force" was portrayed as being a good thing, but it was far from it in reality. Anakin and Palpatine brought balance to the Force in the prequels. By the time A New Hope rolls around, two Jedi (Obi Wan/Yoda), two Sith (Vader/Palpatine). Balance.
Vader kills Obi Wan, Luke takes his spot. Still two Jedi, two Sith. Balance.
Vader and Palpatine destroy each other in Episode VI; we're left with one Jedi, no Sith. That's not balance, is it? Unless of course Luke renounces the Force, gives up his role as a Jedi and goes into solitude, of course...
Will he appear in a role like Obi-Wan, as a mentor, or has he become a legend by now and lives in exile?
Am I the only one amazed by the reverse camera angle hyperjump?
Will he appear in a role like Obi-Wan, as a mentor, or has he become a legend by now and lives in exile?
I almost clicked the link when I realized what you are trying to do here. I WILL NOT BE TEMPTED!!!
Am I the only one amazed by the reverse camera angle hyperjump?
Nope. That is 100% Abrams, though. I feel bad for whoever can't get excited with this trailer. I was smiling so much.
Also, who can't love Daisy Ridley...
https://instagram.com/p/9CzDvblE6W/?taken-by=daisyridley
Honestly, not too far from my own reactions.
New revelation after looking at IGN stills.
Rey may not be crying over a brown jacket shoulder, that looks like the shape of the bottom of Chewbacca's satchel.
I love how Han says "The Dark Side, the Jedi..." but doesn't say "The Sith". Keeping closer to the original trilogy here. Not to say Sith are retconned or anything, but in the OT they weren't mentioned and I love that!
Man, I can't wait to get better looks at the Knights of Ren. I love how they look to have individual looks and weapons. Sort of how Mandos were sort of supposed to be.
Posted this in the other topic; there's a familiar symbol in the trailer.
Supposedly, there's 3 such references with that logo...I don't see the other two.