Right so playing around again looking for ideas or any help

Omicron group pilot

Ion cannon, auto corrector,rebel captive, recon specialist

Darkcurse

Back stabber

Academy pilot

Academy pilot

Academy pilot

So tops out at 100 points was thinking 3x pairs, so ace + academy and the shuttle with academy too,

Sound good or does anyone else have some input??

I would turn the shuttle into just a DoomShuttle, Scrap DC for Howl with Stealth, and turn the APs into Obsidians

What's a doomsshuttle?

naked OGP + vader

RecSpec alongside Accuracy Corrector seems a little overdone. Since AC will be guaranteeing 2 hits on offense, you'll rarely need a Focus, let alone two, since you only have 1 Agility die as well.

What about HLC, AC, Recspec, and rebel captive?

Then have 3x Tie Advances with Tie/x1 and AC?

Would that be more competitive?

Again, waaaaaaay too many points sunk into a ship that will die quick, and not get too terribly many shots off before it does die. You also have no answer for aces with this list, hence why I recommended the doomshuttle, which mulches soontirs

So lambda with darth and ion cannon,

3x tempest advances with tie/x1 AC and ion missiles?

Should slow down the aces.

Or should I look into academy pilots or interceptors?

I can't comment on the generic advances, as I don't own the raider yet, just one copy of the x1/ATC that I ebay'd. However I do know they provide excellent consistent damage and are remarkably durable with AC because you can evade every round for defense.

How bout palpatine only on the shuttle and throw a stealth device on dark curse? I made a list real similiar to that lately but never tested it.

One of my most overlooked and underused lists was always:

Howlrunner

OGP + Vader (Doomshuttle!)

Backstabber

APx3

Doomshuttle subs in for 2 ties and will pull as much weight by providing Crits. 6pts left means you can sub in some FO's for more HP, give Howlrunner a boost, upgrade to another named tie, go with obsidians... Great list.

I took this to my very first tournament and came in fifth:

Omicron Group Pilot (21)

- Darth Vader (3)

- Fire-Control System (2)

Howlrunner (18)

- Swarm Tactics (2)

Mauler Mithel (17)

- Predator (3)

Dark Curse (16)

- Stealth Device (3)

Black Squadron Pilot (14)

- Draw Their Fire (1)

Total: 100

It can still be competitive, but depending on what expansions you own, you should look into some other 1-point EPTs or maybe a TIE/FO.

How can the doom shuttle hurt aces like Soontir?

If they are never in arc then they can't be hurt by Vader, yes?

How can the doom shuttle hurt aces like Soontir?

If they are never in arc then they can't be hurt by Vader, yes?

While this is strictly true in a vacuum, we're considering the Doomshuttle as a complement to a TIE swarm. In this context, much of your success comes from your ability to clutter up the board and block more agile ships like Soontir. Clearly he can fly circles around an unescorted Shuttle all day but that's a dicier proposition with all the other ships OP is looking at taking. All it takes is one bump to leave an ace in arc, without tokens, and the game can change dramatically.