so me and a few friends will be going to a store tournament and I know its a heavy meta scene so I was hoping you guys could look at our list and see whos you like the best and any advice you could give.

1.colonel vessery

VI

HLC

marek steele

predator

tie/x1

ATC

adv homing missiles

lieutenant colzet

tie/x1

FCS

2. Han solo

determination

chewie

c3po

engine upgrade

millennium falcon

keyan farlander

VI

bw/e2

nien numb

HLC

3. bossk

VI

HLC

k4 security droid

outlaw tech

mercenary co-pilot

kath scarlet

VI

HLC

seismic charges

outlaw tech

there is another guy going but he aint picked what to tke yet but it will probably be either K wing, Y wing, B wing or K, A, B

cheers.

Okay, I will have a look at this.

1. list: The Defender isn't all that competetive a ship, but that doesn't mean you can't do well with it. Additionaly Vessery pairs well with X1 Advanceds. The only thing I can think of is giving Colzet Accuracy Correctors or dropping Mareeks AHMs to give Colzet ATC, too. FCS is not a good idea on x1 Advanceds. Maybe drop the AHMs to upgrade Mareek to Vader. Not an easy list by any means, but certainly able to compete.

2. list: This has a lot of issues. Han is overly stacked on defense, while not actually improving much versus his worst enemy, the TLT. Keyan Farlander is overly expensive and also very weak to TLTs. This list is going to crash and burn if anyone actually is going to play the new meta. Fixes: Swap Chewbacca for R2-D2. He will get more defensive value and that ongoing. Give him an Elite upgrade that strengthens his offense, the best choice being Predator. Han tries to never be shot at. If he acomplishes that, he takes a focus token. If he doesn't, you see if you can boost into a place where you can avoid being shot at. If that fails, too, get an evade token via MF title. Drop Keyan Farlander all together, he sadly has no place in this meta, even less so in a 2 ship list. Get someone who can deal with TLTs better. there are several options: The new shiny, Poe Dameron with Lone Wolf or VI, R5-P9, and Autothrusters. I would recommend Lone Wolf because of the defensive value it has, but it makes the list slightly harder to fly. Strategies here are: Poe again tries not to be shot at. If he can completely avoid that by boosting do that, unless you have a realistic chance of killing the opponent befor he can shoot back. In all other cases, take focus and don't spend it unless you would die or kill an opponent guaranteed by doing so. Another option is Tycho Celchu with PTL, Daredevil (via A-Wing Test Pilot), Proton Rockets and Autothrusters. You never care about stress with this guy, since he can fake k-turn by flying a turn and then Daredevil-ing. Blast the Prockets into a priority target and then dance around your opponent madly.

3. list: This is a case of wanting to build a two ship list from ships that don't lend themselves to that. There are two options: Leave it as it is and maybe win some games, but be slaughtered by more effective two ship lists and quad TLTs, or drop a lot of things for a third ship. What I would recommend is dropping both HLCs, bot Outlaw Techs, and the Mercenary Co-Pilot for a Cartel Marauder Kihraxz-Fighter. In any case I also would exchange VI on Bossk for Calculating to have more options to activate Bossks ability, especially in his auxiliary arcs. The modified version is another not easy to fly, but able to compete list, the original one is able to take some games in a not hypercompetetive enviroment, but not too hopefull otherwise. There is a third way: Dropping one of the big ships entirely for two PS 2 Y-Wings with Twin Laser Turret and Unhinged Astromechs. Those guys are crazy, being able to tear down low agility ships as well as putting high agility ones under heavy pressure, all that while not being easily outmanouvered with that range 2-3 turret and green 3 speed manouvers. I would recommend doing that while keeping Kath, since a 50 point YV-666 is a bit questionable.

Okay, I will have a look at this.

1. list: The Defender isn't all that competetive a ship, but that doesn't mean you can't do well with it. Additionaly Vessery pairs well with X1 Advanceds. The only thing I can think of is giving Colzet Accuracy Correctors or dropping Mareeks AHMs to give Colzet ATC, too. FCS is not a good idea on x1 Advanceds. Maybe drop the AHMs to upgrade Mareek to Vader. Not an easy list by any means, but certainly able to compete.

2. list: This has a lot of issues. Han is overly stacked on defense, while not actually improving much versus his worst enemy, the TLT. Keyan Farlander is overly expensive and also very weak to TLTs. This list is going to crash and burn if anyone actually is going to play the new meta. Fixes: Swap Chewbacca for R2-D2. He will get more defensive value and that ongoing. Give him an Elite upgrade that strengthens his offense, the best choice being Predator. Han tries to never be shot at. If he acomplishes that, he takes a focus token. If he doesn't, you see if you can boost into a place where you can avoid being shot at. If that fails, too, get an evade token via MF title. Drop Keyan Farlander all together, he sadly has no place in this meta, even less so in a 2 ship list. Get someone who can deal with TLTs better. there are several options: The new shiny, Poe Dameron with Lone Wolf or VI, R5-P9, and Autothrusters. I would recommend Lone Wolf because of the defensive value it has, but it makes the list slightly harder to fly. Strategies here are: Poe again tries not to be shot at. If he can completely avoid that by boosting do that, unless you have a realistic chance of killing the opponent befor he can shoot back. In all other cases, take focus and don't spend it unless you would die or kill an opponent guaranteed by doing so. Another option is Tycho Celchu with PTL, Daredevil (via A-Wing Test Pilot), Proton Rockets and Autothrusters. You never care about stress with this guy, since he can fake k-turn by flying a turn and then Daredevil-ing. Blast the Prockets into a priority target and then dance around your opponent madly.

3. list: This is a case of wanting to build a two ship list from ships that don't lend themselves to that. There are two options: Leave it as it is and maybe win some games, but be slaughtered by more effective two ship lists and quad TLTs, or drop a lot of things for a third ship. What I would recommend is dropping both HLCs, bot Outlaw Techs, and the Mercenary Co-Pilot for a Cartel Marauder Kihraxz-Fighter. In any case I also would exchange VI on Bossk for Calculating to have more options to activate Bossks ability, especially in his auxiliary arcs. The modified version is another not easy to fly, but able to compete list, the original one is able to take some games in a not hypercompetetive enviroment, but not too hopefull otherwise. There is a third way: Dropping one of the big ships entirely for two PS 2 Y-Wings with Twin Laser Turret and Unhinged Astromechs. Those guys are crazy, being able to tear down low agility ships as well as putting high agility ones under heavy pressure, all that while not being easily outmanouvered with that range 2-3 turret and green 3 speed manouvers. I would recommend doing that while keeping Kath, since a 50 point YV-666 is a bit questionable.

I found ATC on lower PS pilots to be really weak tho, colzet with FCS can use the target lock for his ability while keeping defensive with evade actions.

the games we've had with poe he's been really underwhelming, the guy who's using this list is not the best speed flyer slower ships are more his deal, I've mentioned y wings to him but he's had quite a lot of success with han and keyan. tho admittedly none of us have played against a TLT swarm yet.

I agree about bossk, personally I think my friend has piled way to much on him.

In that case give Colzet Accuracy Corrector, it is better than FCS. Sure, you don't have the TL for Vessery anymore, but it is hard to argue with guaranteed perfect dice. You still have your action free for defense.

Edit: Forgot about his ability, FCS is legit. AC can still be a consideration, but my gut feeling now is that FCS wins.

I stand by Keyan being an awefull ship at high point values, especially in a two ship build. He just melts to focussed fire so easily, it is not even funny. The key to a reliable two ship list is having the two counter each others weak points, and that doesn't quite work with Han and Keyan. If he is dead set on the B-Wing, though, let me offer an alternative: Ten Nunb with Mangler Cannon, VI, and Advanced Sensors. This guy hunts the TIE Interceptors and other high PS aces with undodgable crits, countering ships with Autothrusters who are a pain for Han. You can also have the ultra slippery Keyan with Stay on Target, Advanced Sensors, and Intelligence Agent (via /E2). Take a target lock befor you move, see what other people do, pull the right manouver while getting yourself stress, use TL and stress on the attack and clear your stress that way, be free to repeat as needed. If the HLC is a must, drop /E2 and Nien Nunb (which is useless on Keyan anyways) and upgrade VI to Stay on Target, so you can reliably take your stress. The slippery version is just as capable on the offense, though, since it can easily stack TL and "focus". On the Y-WIng front I can recommend Horton Salm with VI (via R2-D6), Proton Bombs (via Bomb Loadout), and TLT. All of these options will be inferior to one with Autothrusters and more than one agility, though.