So what do you guys think about new squadrons and pilots skill for some of out beloved fighters. The biggest one for me that comes to mind is Wraith Squadron, comprised of misfits in A-Wings and X-Wings could have them come in at PS2 for the A's and PS3 for the X's. Could also introduce Phoenix squadron and its A-Wings into the mix also at PS2. Just a little idea to spice things up, I think it would make things interesting.

I would love to see more Generic pilots out there. The Star Viper would benefit greatly with generic ps5 pilots. I would love if the Scum were to aquire a ps1 Firespray. They would make a great blocker / meatshield, and be slightly cheaper allowing me to run 3 with some cheap illicit upgrades.

PS5 E-wings and Defenders with EPT.

PS6 Rogue Squadron Pilot X-wings (T-65) (EPT, obviously, 25 points).

This does seem like a fun idea to me. In general I feel like it would be neat to see more Aces packs released for some of the under utilized ships, alongside all the constant new developments.

PS5 E-wings and Defenders with EPT.

PS6 Rogue Squadron Pilot X-wings (T-65) (EPT, obviously, 25 points).

This. This so much. The Star Viper could use a generic PS5 pilot with an EPT as well. I really think that the X-Wing, E-Wing, and Defender would see so much more play with these. Predator on a defender would be awesome. E-Wings with PtL and a generic R2 would probably clock in around 35 points, meaning that you couldn't spam three of them, but they would be reliable and actually able to use that awesome action bar.

The T-65s really need the boost that the T-70 got. They would still be cheaper and lack the ability to utilize auto thrusters, but I seriously doubt a PS generic X-Wing would be too powerful in any way.

Who else can we add. Y-wing needs to mirror the TIE bomber, and lack of EPT with warheads seems to be a thing...

A-wing is good as is..

Trilon aggressors weren't all piloted by IG88s, so maybe a human version of that. PS1 no EPT, PS3 no ept. PS5, with?

May not take the title.

B-wings are fine.. advanced I'd say are fine... (though each could in theory have a 6 /EPT)

Phantoms i'd say are fine...

Z's i'd say are fine too... None of these need a new squadron.

Aside from Defenders, E-wings and X-wings that's probably it. The alternative would be Generics with different action bars maybe. Specific Squadrons that for example converted their torpedo launchers to missile, or removed turrets to fit cannons.

I would love to see Squadron bonuses introduced somehow.

I usually think of "Theme list" rules ala Warmahordes, but I am open to anything that allows me to fly "Black Squadron" or "Saber Squadron" or whatever and makes it feel unique.

I would love to see Squadron bonuses introduced somehow.

I usually think of "Theme list" rules ala Warmahordes, but I am open to anything that allows me to fly "Black Squadron" or "Saber Squadron" or whatever and makes it feel unique.

You know I was looking at that for a metagame i was working on. Basically you select a "type" for the squadron, so Interceptors have to have all 5 speed boost ships, and move an additional hex, or bombers get discounts on ordnance or boarding/command get crew/team bonuses (and must be used to initiate base takeovers in IA).

I need to turn my ADHD off and work on one project. Right now thinking of a DM'ed project where an imperial taskforce immediately post endor is stuck badly in rebel territory and must withdraw. A frigate, 2 Gozers, a raider, 2 Decis, 24 TIE's (of whatever type) 4 shuttles, limited fuel and ammunition and about 80 Stormtroopers (for IA). Basically phases would be command phase (Do you hyper anyway, orbit planet, scout, recon, patrol etc - do you try to capture that refueling base or ammo depot, try to locate an Imperial base that's still manned or bug the hell out...). Discovery Phase, (what do you find with your recon/patrols) Combat phase (Xwing) Combat phase (IA).

It'll be open DM'ed, so capturing supplies from a GR75 or even capturing a CR90 from the rebels could be do-able. PS's for all ships may improved, Each Stormtrooper, officer and pilot is a life under your command (my mantra more or less).

I'd love to see generic Z-95s with an EPT.

In current canon there are two female pilots that should show up:

Shara Bey A-wing pilot who fought at Endor, as well as being Poe Dameron's mother. Provide a green paint scheme and it doubles release duty for Pheonix Leader in Rebels

Norra Wexley (with R5-G4) as a Y-wing pilot, whom we see drawing some ties away from Lando and Wedge inside the second Death Star

The whole idea of Rogue squadron pilots showing should be put to rest. Rogue squadron as we knew it does NOT exist. Yes, there was rogue group on hoth, and rogue one coming out. If seems the x-wing (space fighter) squadron is known as Red Squadron.

S'not dead till disney say it is. So even as a loyal Imperial i'll continue to hope for an X-wing Rogue Squadron. It's already got some pilots that were only introduces in the RS books... not to mention Isard.

In current canon there are two female pilots that should show up:

Shara Bey A-wing pilot who fought at Endor, as well as being Poe Dameron's mother. Provide a green paint scheme and it doubles release duty for Pheonix Leader in Rebels

Norra Wexley (with R5-G4) as a Y-wing pilot, whom we see drawing some ties away from Lando and Wedge inside the second Death Star

The whole idea of Rogue squadron pilots showing should be put to rest. Rogue squadron as we knew it does NOT exist. Yes, there was rogue group on hoth, and rogue one coming out. If seems the x-wing (space fighter) squadron is known as Red Squadron.

Sure, but we already have a slew of stuff that is technically not Canon already. I see where you are coming from and it would be sad if Rogue Squadron never showed up, but I'd be fine with just the canon squadrons at least.

In current canon there are two female pilots that should show up:

Shara Bey A-wing pilot who fought at Endor, as well as being Poe Dameron's mother. Provide a green paint scheme and it doubles release duty for Pheonix Leader in Rebels

Norra Wexley (with R5-G4) as a Y-wing pilot, whom we see drawing some ties away from Lando and Wedge inside the second Death Star

The whole idea of Rogue squadron pilots showing should be put to rest. Rogue squadron as we knew it does NOT exist. Yes, there was rogue group on hoth, and rogue one coming out. If seems the x-wing (space fighter) squadron is known as Red Squadron.

I agree with you on this, personally they need to tap into some more of the original ANH pilots for rebels like Pops, Tiree and now Norra, but also more generic squadrons like I mentioned in my original post like phoenix squadron fro Rebel. One way of doing this would be with Battle Packs, do a Yavin and Endor one with all the missing pilots from both battles since they are all still cannon, and add the rest of the squadrons from those battles. Also theh could do another CR90 or if its not much bigger Phoenix Home and add 2 A's with it in phoenix squadron colors.

PS5 E-wings and Defenders with EPT.

PS6 Rogue Squadron Pilot X-wings (T-65) (EPT, obviously, 25 points).

Except that the PS5 E wing and Defenders aren't going to be worth the cost. The Blackmoon is 29, so just adding 2 points makes it 31 points for a PS5 w/ an EPT. You mean to tell me 4 points to jump up 3 PS and to gain Corran's ability isn't worth it at that point? Especially went you consider that you're going to be adding more points to the base ship. It's the "problem" with ace ships - the point cost for getting the ace in the ace ship makes it pointless to ever run the generic... Coming from a guy who took (and did well with) a Blackmoon at Gencon 2014.

In current canon there are two female pilots that should show up:

Shara Bey A-wing pilot who fought at Endor, as well as being Poe Dameron's mother. Provide a green paint scheme and it doubles release duty for Pheonix Leader in Rebels

Norra Wexley (with R5-G4) as a Y-wing pilot, whom we see drawing some ties away from Lando and Wedge inside the second Death Star

The whole idea of Rogue squadron pilots showing should be put to rest. Rogue squadron as we knew it does NOT exist. Yes, there was rogue group on hoth, and rogue one coming out. If seems the x-wing (space fighter) squadron is known as Red Squadron.

I agree with you on this, personally they need to tap into some more of the original ANH pilots for rebels like Pops, Tiree and now Norra, but also more generic squadrons like I mentioned in my original post like phoenix squadron fro Rebel. One way of doing this would be with Battle Packs, do a Yavin and Endor one with all the missing pilots from both battles since they are all still cannon, and add the rest of the squadrons from those battles. Also theh could do another CR90 or if its not much bigger Phoenix Home and add 2 A's with it in phoenix squadron colors.

While I would love a Phoenix Home model, it's about twice as long as a CR90, so I doubt we'll see it in the game.

Definitely would love to see some of the new pilots introduced like Norra Wexley. Since Fantasy Flight doesn't want to release cards on their own, maybe we could see them in new Aces packs; I really loved the first Rebel Aces.

The whole idea of Rogue squadron pilots showing should be put to rest. Rogue squadron as we knew it does NOT exist. Yes, there was rogue group on hoth, and rogue one coming out. If seems the x-wing (space fighter) squadron is known as Red Squadron.

X-Wing is still using ships and elements from the old canon like the Mist Hunter, so I don't see why we can't have both Rogue Squadrons show up as generic pilots.

"Canon" is overrated; this is a game where Moralo Eval can fight against Biggs Darklighter, Tycho Celchu, and Poe Dameron on the same team.

In current canon there are two female pilots that should show up:

Shara Bey A-wing pilot who fought at Endor, as well as being Poe Dameron's mother. Provide a green paint scheme and it doubles release duty for Pheonix Leader in Rebels

Norra Wexley (with R5-G4) as a Y-wing pilot, whom we see drawing some ties away from Lando and Wedge inside the second Death Star

The whole idea of Rogue squadron pilots showing should be put to rest. Rogue squadron as we knew it does NOT exist. Yes, there was rogue group on hoth, and rogue one coming out. If seems the x-wing (space fighter) squadron is known as Red Squadron.

Ugh, I can't believe that they retconned Horton Salm out of the Death Star II assault. Yet another reason to hate aftermath, I guess.

Ugh, I can't believe that they retconned Horton Salm out of the Death Star II assault. Yet another reason to hate aftermath, I guess.

The entire point of the Legends EU retcon was so that writers (Both for the new movies and TV and for the new EU to accompany them) didn't have to be constricted by the mountains of Star Wars fiction written beforehand that most people haven't read while writing new Star Wars fiction. That hardly means that the stories with Horton Salm stopped existing when the old EU was declared Legends or Aftermath was published. I can still read the X-Wing novels and enjoy them despite them being 100% non-canon. I can still enjoy the short story "The Last One Standing: The Tale of Boba Fett" despite Fett's entire backstory being non-canon for over a decade after Attack of the Clones was released.

Again, "canon" is an overrated concept that only dictates the constraints writers have to work under. Horton Salm being rendered non-canon does not mean you can no longer read his stories. It does not mean that you have to burn your Horton Salm card and never play with it again. It just means writers can now write things about the Y-Wing pilot seen entering the Death Star II that they couldn't before when that story was already extensively told. Fans need to stop obsessing over what is canon and what is not and start just enjoying the different stories told with Star Wars.

Ugh, I can't believe that they retconned Horton Salm out of the Death Star II assault. Yet another reason to hate aftermath, I guess.

The entire point of the Legends EU retcon was so that writers (Both for the new movies and TV and for the new EU to accompany them) didn't have to be constricted by the mountains of Star Wars fiction written beforehand that most people haven't read while writing new Star Wars fiction. That hardly means that the stories with Horton Salm stopped existing when the old EU was declared Legends or Aftermath was published. I can still read the X-Wing novels and enjoy them despite them being 100% non-canon. I can still enjoy the short story "The Last One Standing: The Tale of Boba Fett" despite Fett's entire backstory being non-canon for over a decade after Attack of the Clones was released.

Again, "canon" is an overrated concept that only dictates the constraints writers have to work under. Horton Salm being rendered non-canon does not mean you can no longer read his stories. It does not mean that you have to burn your Horton Salm card and never play with it again. It just means writers can now write things about the Y-Wing pilot seen entering the Death Star II that they couldn't before when that story was already extensively told. Fans need to stop obsessing over what is canon and what is not and start just enjoying the different stories told with Star Wars.

I'm more concerned with the laziness of the retcon, replacing a character who had a face (and later, a name other than "Gray Leader") with one that has never shown up at all before and giving them the unique (and very impressive) feat of being the only Y-wing to assault the DSII core, in order to give credence to a new character who could have been written in to some other part of the battle (like the slipshod "Blade squadron" that was released, although that was garbage too).

It's only my opinion so it's not worth much, but I stand by my original comment and add, who's next to be retconned? Kier Santage? Tycho Celchu? Arvel Crynyd? Grizz Frix? Literally all of those pilots are up for grabs now for garbage writers to make new stories for and I am not happy.

I do love how people call the new writers 'garbage' without necessarily knowing much about them, or reading the new novel. Here's the thing, and this is personal opinion, the new fiction is about the same level of garbage as the old. Much of the old fiction was mediocre at best, and crystal star at worst. I enjoyed aftermath. i also enjoyed the Rogue Squadron novels.

So many people are clamouring for a rogue squad title or generic pilots. With the new movie Rogue One coming out having okd references to the legends rogue squadron may be confusing for the non hardcore, or new fans. Also, there is nothing that the title couldn't do be being named Red Squadron. The famous battles were flown by Red Squadron. Rogue group flew some snowspeeders and got mostly blown away. Wedge wasn't even Rogue 2.

I understand we have lots of legends content, but going forward, as the new stories are written, the old material will be supersceded by the new. Using the legends fiction is tricky. Especially when you are a liscencee and not likely privvy to all the proposed changes. Why put out something that may end up being cast aside? There is also the powers that be that must approve the content. Throwimg in a TIE variant and pilot is far easiet as they are represented on screen as looking all the same in their armour. The rebels are the protagonists, and more care to make them consistent must be taken.

This game does take liberties with canon in regards to the pilots, many of which are dead. But the new Force Awakens set should show that FFG has to tread carefully with the content. We only have one proper character named pilot, Poe Dameron, the rest are Blue Ace, or Omega Leader. This may be to avoid spoilers. It may be the unique pilots didn't have names when FFG made the new set. We don't know, but it does look to me that FFG has to be careful with what they do.

I do love how people call the new writers 'garbage' without necessarily knowing much about them, or reading the new novel. Here's the thing, and this is personal opinion, the new fiction is about the same level of garbage as the old. Much of the old fiction was mediocre at best, and crystal star at worst. I enjoyed aftermath. i also enjoyed the Rogue Squadron novels.

X-Wing Miniatures also proves that great things can come from stories of any quality. The whole IG-88A, B, C, and D idea? That comes from one of the most hilariously bad Star Wars stories of all time, "Therefore I Am: The Tale of IG-88" by Kevin J Anderson, which has IG-88 upload its mind into the Death Star II and prank the Emperor with a door. But the concept of four identical IG-88s sharing their experience is cool enough to end up as one of the most creative mechanics in X-Wing.

This game does take liberties with canon in regards to the pilots, many of which are dead. But the new Force Awakens set should show that FFG has to tread carefully with the content. We only have one proper character named pilot, Poe Dameron, the rest are Blue Ace, or Omega Leader. This may be to avoid spoilers. It may be the unique pilots didn't have names when FFG made the new set. We don't know, but it does look to me that FFG has to be careful with what they do.

I personally am not a huge fan of this, especially for the TIE/fo pilots. Names like "Mauler Mithel", "Nightbeast", "Darkcurse", "Backstabber", and "Howlrunner" have so much more character than "Omega Leader" or "Epsilon Leader". Yes, the TIE pilot nicknames came from canon material, but there's no reason Fantasy Flight couldn't have made some new cool ones in that vein; I could certainly think of a bunch off the top of my head. They would be just as "canon" as "Omega Leader" while still having more flavor.