What do we think would be a fair point cost for Fel in an X-wing?

Same ability, same PS, but with X-wing stats and dial?

Judging from the other X-Wings? 29 points.

Well considering the X-wing does not have the same inherent maneuvering abilities and far less Greens I suspect Fel in a X-Wing would be rather underwhelming, Especially as PTL is almost always worse than Predator on an X-Wing.

You could throw on an Engine but the cost gets prohibitive.

TLDR: Likely around 29 points regardless but I think Wes would see more play than Fel in a X-Wing

Not to sound too snarky, but couldn't you have easily figured this out? Subtract the cost of the cheapest possible interceptor from Fel. Add the result value to the cheapest possible x-wing.

Now, this may or may not be correct, but at least put sone effort into it.

When did we as a people get so lazy that we ask a simple problem on the Internet rather than take a few minutes to figure something out?

I didn't realize that not posting my own thoughts on the subject must mean that i hadn't thought about it at all.......

Forgive me for wanting other opinions. I had figured 29 for what is basically wedge with a different ability was fair. I didn't realize that not posting that would bother you so much.

Also, the fact that you suggested a higher cost even though Fels ability is less suited to an X-wing kind of suggests that asking for opinions on the matter is better than not. No?

Not to sound too snarky, but couldn't you have easily figured this out? Subtract the cost of the cheapest possible interceptor from Fel. Add the result value to the cheapest possible x-wing.

Now, this may or may not be correct, but at least put sone effort into it.

When did we as a people get so lazy that we ask a simple problem on the Internet rather than take a few minutes to figure something out?

This is basically what Alex Davey and Frank Brooks suggest doing if you want to add existing pilots to different ships.

An R2 Astromech would be and auto-include on Fel's X-wing. With the limited actions on an X-wing I wonder if PTL would still be the go to ept. Expert handling, Daredevil, and Opportunist might be useful choices.

Not to sound too snarky, but couldn't you have easily figured this out? Subtract the cost of the cheapest possible interceptor from Fel. Add the result value to the cheapest possible x-wing.

Now, this may or may not be correct, but at least put sone effort into it.

When did we as a people get so lazy that we ask a simple problem on the Internet rather than take a few minutes to figure something out?

At leeeeeast 2000 years ago....

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29 seems legit. 33 in a t70

Not to sound too snarky, but couldn't you have easily figured this out? Subtract the cost of the cheapest possible interceptor from Fel. Add the result value to the cheapest possible x-wing.

Now, this may or may not be correct, but at least put sone effort into it.

When did we as a people get so lazy that we ask a simple problem on the Internet rather than take a few minutes to figure something out?

This is basically what Alex Davey and Frank Brooks suggest doing if you want to add existing pilots to different ships.

An R2 Astromech would be and auto-include on Fel's X-wing. With the limited actions on an X-wing I wonder if PTL would still be the go to ept. Expert handling, Daredevil, and Opportunist might be useful choices.

Nope, Fel wants BB-8, EU, and PTL. I've tried this and it's bloody amazing what kind of nonsense he can get up to (effectively performing 4 different actions per turn).

Agreed. In a basic X-wing, he's not that great because you've only got two actions, and one of them is focus anyway, and you've not really got the agility to demand multiple focus tokens.

With an R2 Astromech, Push The Limit and an Engine Upgrade, plus either R2 Astromech or BB-8 to taste, he's amazing. You need multiple action options to make his ability worth using.

And it's actually more than that.

Reveal a green maneuver:

• Barrel Roll
• Push The Limit (Boost)
• Gain Stress (Gain Focus)

Execute the green maneuver

• Remove Stress

Perform Action

• Target Lock
• Push The Limit (Focus)
• Gain Stress (Gain Focus)

Granted, by ending the activation phase stressed, you've "stolen" your ability to use BB-8 next turn, but that's a ridiculous stack of focus tokens if you expect to come under fire....

Push is once per round.

Fel would pretty much suck in an X-wing, and be only slightly better in a T-70. He would be pretty good in an E-wing, but also cost 35-36 points.

He would be a pretty interesting R3-A2 carrier though, give him predator and he wouldn't even have to bother clearing stress. He also wouldn't really care about driving through debris clouds.

Honourable mentions to XFel with R2-F2 and Experimental Interface (plus maybe Lonewolf) and also with Expose/Experimental Interface plus R2 Astro for potential 5 dice Focus/TL attacks.

Look, I'm not trying to be an arse, but when i read the original post, it came off as "someone do the work for me". Maybe it wasn't the case, but it is how I read it. Personally, I feel if you want to start a discussion, you should provide a starting point to the conversation that is a little more in depth that just "what do you think?" Think of it this way; If you aren't willing to put effort into a conversation, why should anyone else?

Look, I'm not trying to be an arse, but when i read the original post, it came off as "someone do the work for me". Maybe it wasn't the case, but it is how I read it. Personally, I feel if you want to start a discussion, you should provide a starting point to the conversation that is a little more in depth that just "what do you think?" Think of it this way; If you aren't willing to put effort into a conversation, why should anyone else?

Nice back-track. Basically, you jumped to a conclusion and are now regretting it because others called you out on it. Let it go man. Everyone else has.

@OP - 29 seems fine. I could even see 28, given that his ability is a bit more limited to work in an X, you are almost assuredly taking an R2 astro, and likely engine so you have something to push for other than TL+2xFocus.

I think a BB-8+PtL Fel T-65 or T-70 would be really fun.

Why be so boring as to assume RFel would have the same ability as IFel? I feel like if they were to do a 'same pilot different ship', they would give him a snazzy new ability to go with it. Maybe something along the lines of Jake Farrell, using an action to get an action not on the bar or changing maneuvres ala Juno. That's how I see Soontir pushing the limits of what an XWing can do at least.

Why be so boring as to assume RFel would have the same ability as IFel? I feel like if they were to do a 'same pilot different ship', they would give him a snazzy new ability to go with it. Maybe something along the lines of Jake Farrell, using an action to get an action not on the bar or changing maneuvres ala Juno. That's how I see Soontir pushing the limits of what an XWing can do at least.

How bout same ability different token. Instead of a focus token you get an evade. Sounds about right to his skill and flavor.

Not to sound too snarky, but couldn't you have easily figured this out? Subtract the cost of the cheapest possible interceptor from Fel. Add the result value to the cheapest possible x-wing.

Now, this may or may not be correct, but at least put sone effort into it.

When did we as a people get so lazy that we ask a simple problem on the Internet rather than take a few minutes to figure something out?

I think you couldn't be more wrong.

you must take into consideration the maneuver dial and how the pilots skill benefits or hinders the ship.

I believe, just as Boba has a different ability in the same ship for a different faction, Soontir would be the same.

I would like to see Soontir with the following ability in an xwing:

May perform a free barrel roll action after revealing dial or after moving.

Not to sound too snarky, but couldn't you have easily figured this out? Subtract the cost of the cheapest possible interceptor from Fel. Add the result value to the cheapest possible x-wing.

Now, this may or may not be correct, but at least put sone effort into it.

When did we as a people get so lazy that we ask a simple problem on the Internet rather than take a few minutes to figure something out?

Rogue Fel should be anti-Fel: At the start of the Combat phase, if you are not stressed, receive a free focus token.

Not to sound too snarky, but couldn't you have easily figured this out? Subtract the cost of the cheapest possible interceptor from Fel. Add the result value to the cheapest possible x-wing.

Now, this may or may not be correct, but at least put sone effort into it.

When did we as a people get so lazy that we ask a simple problem on the Internet rather than take a few minutes to figure something out?

At leeeeeast 2000 years ago....

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method)

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question)

OH BURN!

I don't need to read the rest of the thread now.

Rogue Fel should be anti-Fel: At the start of the Combat phase, if you are not stressed, receive a free focus token.

I like it.