There have been a few threads about similar things already and I personally am not too keen of prequel factions, but I found a way to implement them that wouldn't bother me as much. It struck me that the Rebellion actually doesn't need a new subfaction for the whole thing to work, just as Scum didn't get one with the new TFA stuff. That would make the CIS part of Scum and the Republic part of the Empire. There are still some issues with that, like Jedi flying for the Empire (which could be solved by just not printing Jedi pilots, but i guess that wouldn't be too popular), but it works better than other ideas.

I don't think FFG will do prequel stuff any time soon or even at all, but I guess if they do, there is a way that won't be total nonsense.

I'll never understand the concept of giving Republic tech to The Empire, full stop.

Because the Empire is the direct descendant of the Republic and known for using it for a time after its creation, especially the V-Wings. It is still a bit of a strech, but it is the best we have.

Not ideal but could work. The other option would be

CIS = Scum

Clones & Republic Navy = Empire

Jedi & Early Rebels (Bail Organa, Naboo, etc.) = Rebel

While i dont want them to im sort of surprised they have not and dont plan to.

Given that lego are still hawking the hell out of prequels there *must* be some money/milage in them

(recent releases from lego include a stack of new prequel stuff including a redone N1)

I can only assume its an artistic prerogative of FFG and they just dont like it (or didnt include it in their license agreement to save money whereas i assume lego bought 'star wars' as a whole domain to work in)

Not ideal but could work. The other option would be

CIS = Scum

Clones & Republic Navy = Empire

Jedi & Early Rebels (Bail Organa, Naboo, etc.) = Rebel

Splitting the Republic would be a good idea, I agree.

It's simple kids don't have money old guys do so you make an OT game because that's what the people with the money like, those same people for the most part HATE the prequels so you stay well clear.

And even if they did add it no one's going to be happy because the rebels want republic ships but it makes no sense for the empire to get separatist ships so the empire gets republic ships and rebels get droids.

Of course then empire gets astromechs which dilutes the factions even further.

All adding prequel stuff does is cause upset and strife.

It's simple kids don't have money old guys do so you make an OT game because that's what the people with the money like, those same people for the most part HATE the prequels so you stay well clear.

And even if they did add it no one's going to be happy because the rebels want republic ships but it makes no sense for the empire to get separatist ships so the empire gets republic ships and rebels get droids.

Of course then empire gets astromechs which dilutes the factions even further.

All adding prequel stuff does is cause upset and strife.

I agree, and I am quite happy that with the release of new movies the day of prequels entering X-Wing in a big way (doesn't say anything about single ships) has been pushed away further, if it is ever going to happen at all. But I think it is nice to know there is the option to do it in a way that isn't off putting should the game ever run out of material. You can get around the Astromech thing by giving the Republic "military grade astromech" upgrades, similar to the way they did it for Scum.

Good thing I was like 4 when TPM was released, so I was the target audience and was able to enjoy it!

Because the Empire is the direct descendant of the Republic and known for using it for a time after its creation, especially the V-Wings. It is still a bit of a strech, but it is the best we have.

For me that's totes the wrong approach. The only logical way to pair them up is by who'd actually fight alongside whom - basically, a traditional Star Wars Light Side/Dark Side division.

Good thing I was like 4 when TPM was released, so I was the target audience and was able to enjoy it!

Whereas I was 8 when ANH came out, and I've seen it uncountable times along with ESB and RotJ. Any of E1-3, however, I've watched each of them straight through probably twice each and I'm not positive about even bothering to go see E3 at the theatre when it was released. I may have waited for the DVD release. So yeah. I'm a mid-40 white guy with loads of disposable income, no kids, a wife that understands gamer obsession, and exactly *zero* interest in any ship from E1-3. They don't make me excited at all.

And I'll never understand people who want to make the CIS Scum.

The point of Scum is to represent unaligned privateers and criminals.

The CIS was a galaxy-wide superpower that made up almost half of the military might in the galaxy at one point. They are as far from Scum as you can get.

I'll never understand the concept of giving Republic tech to The Empire, full stop.

And I'll never understand people who want to make the CIS Scum.

The point of Scum is to represent unaligned privateers and criminals.

The CIS was a galaxy-wide superpower that made up almost half of the military might in the galaxy at one point. They are as far from Scum as you can get.

Right. CIS as Scum doesn't work, and Republic as Empire doesn't really work. Splitting the Republic doesn't work, either, because it means (e.g.) no flying Obi-Wan in formation with clone troopers flying Y-wings or ARC fighters. Thematically, prequel factions are a complete mess.

So in conclusion nothing works and we should be happy FFG has other options for now

The solution is whatever FFG chooses to do. They can simply pump out EP7-9 and stand alone stuff now so it'll probably only be filler when they decide to do it. They'll get around to it if they keep the license and game going long enough. They'll also get it right whatever they decide on; they are FFG. .

It's really not that complicated. You pair Light Side with Light Side, Dark Side with Dark Side, and let Scum just be Scum.

Good thing I was like 4 when TPM was released, so I was the target audience and was able to enjoy it!

Whereas I was 8 when ANH came out, and I've seen it uncountable times along with ESB and RotJ. Any of E1-3, however, I've watched each of them straight through probably twice each and I'm not positive about even bothering to go see E3 at the theatre when it was released. I may have waited for the DVD release. So yeah. I'm a mid-40 white guy with loads of disposable income, no kids, a wife that understands gamer obsession, and exactly *zero* interest in any ship from E1-3. They don't make me excited at all.

I I was too young for A New Hope, but I remember going to the cinema with my old man to watch Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. I've watched all three films dozens of times since, and they never get old.

I was at university when the Phantom Menace came out. Went to the midnight debut screening with around half a dozen friends. The cinema was packed, there was nervous, excited muttering during the pre-feature trailers, but when the music hit and the Star Wars logo appeared, there were thunderous, deafening cheers. This was an entire generation of cinemagoers who had been waiting for years for this film.

Those were the only cheers of the night, though.

After we left the cinema, friends and I all felt... well.. confused. Not disappointed exactly, just a bit bewildered. It wasn't the Star Wars we remembered and loved, but we couldn't work out why. All the elements were there, but it just didn't seem to resonate with us the way the originals did. Lots of... er, coffee and sandwiches later, and we decided to blame the excessive CGI.

I vaguely remember watching the second and third films at the cinema. I vaguely remembering wondering who the hell Count Dooku was, and what the hell a General Grevious was, and why I should actually care about either of them. It was thinking about this vague, disinterested confusion which finally lead me to realise why the prequels never struck a chord:

They simply weren't memorable enough.

Everything - EVERYTHING - about the Original Trilogy is memorable. Iconic, even. From the opening shots of the Tantive IV fleeing from the much bigger Star Destroyer, to the white-armoured Imperial soldiers, the heroes, the villiains, the incidental characters, the ships, the gritty, used, lived-in worlds... everything had it's place, everything looked like it fitted into the greater whole, everything was memorable... and the story, characters, themes, visuals and effects were all consistent over the course of the series. The practical effects of the Original Trilogy looked the part, the CGI effects of the prequels simply did not.

The ship designs in the Original Trilogy were memorable. To this day I can probably only visualise the Naboo Starfighter (banana-yellow CGI thing) and the Royal whateveritwas (shiny-silver CGI thing) from the prequels. I think of the Jedi Starfighter from Episode 2 and all I see is an A-Wing, and for the life of me I couldn't tell you what any of the enemy ships were.

So, yeah. I am 100% in the Tim Bisley camp.

Like I said, I was about 4 or 5 when I saw TPM and I was entertained by the lights, the identifyable characters (cough, for a 4 year old) and it being Star Wars. I liked it and I grew up with the merchandise and games surrounding it. However, even then, epsiode 5 was always the movie i liked to watch the most. It had that sense of wonder with Yoda teaching Luke, the fantastic ground battle with the AT-ATs, some real distress in Cloud City. That movie impacted me, the prequels did not, they merely entertained. I still have some fond memories of the prequel era, but those have to do with games and EU stuff. And TCW totally saved the timeframe for me.

I really don't see why people are trying to jam them into the existing factions. Let them be the official 4 and 5 factions, not subfactions.

I really don't see why people are trying to jam them into the existing factions. Let them be the official 4 and 5 factions, not subfactions.

Or better yet, let them be buried forever in a landfill in New Mexico.

Hey, it worked out okay for Atari right?

It just doesn't make sense to add new factions right now. We just got a new faction in the last year and it hasn't been fully fleshed out yet.

Now, ships that happen to come from prequel era showing up? That, I can see happening.

If they start doing ep1-3 stuff after saying they won't. I'm out. Just out. That's it.

The ship designs in the Original Trilogy were memorable. To this day I can probably only visualise the Naboo Starfighter (banana-yellow CGI thing) and the Royal whateveritwas (shiny-silver CGI thing) from the prequels. I think of the Jedi Starfighter from Episode 2 and all I see is an A-Wing, and for the life of me I couldn't tell you what any of the enemy ships were.

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