I personally think that they will be holding to movie and Rebels ships in future waves.

meaning that the gunship and firespray that a lot of people want to see will probably not happen for a very long time.

for instance, the new shuttle from the pre-views and the heavy duty tie with turret

You're making a pretty big assumption there - that neither Rebels, Force Awakens, Rogue One or any of the upcoming films will include existing ships from the EU.

And as we've seen from the Rebels season 2 trailer, that's clearly not the case.

The new Rebels trailer features a number of EU ships including the Immobiliser 418 cruiser (now probably guaranteed for Armada) and what looks like the Scurrg Bomber featured in Armada's Wave 2.

Rogue One is set prior to Episode IV, and as such could well also feature early Rebellion and Imperial ships rather than all-new vehicles and designs.

TL;DR? contrary to widespread belief, Disney have not "abandoned" the Extended Universe, and continue to draw from it going forwards - and so will FFG.

I can see them releasing Rebel/Resistance and Imperial/First Order ships from the new material only but a couple of provisos...

These films (+ Rebels) may contain existing EU ships, in which case we get a ship that is both new and EU at the same time.

There may not be enough Scum ships within the films, so these may continue to come from the EU.

I think we need to think about Wave size as well. Will we now move to three ship waves? One from each faction? If so, that's a lot easier to fill up than things like the huge wave we're about to get.

To those who are saying that the two bounty hunter ships that are upcoming are "proof" that EU ships will still be released... I have to disagree. Those two complete the set of ships that belong to the characters featured in Episode V and were pretty much guaranteed to be released as soon as IG-88 was announced. It absolutely isn't proof that EU ships will continue to be released (but see provisos above).

I really don't know if I want to see the TIE Avenger. I mean, it'll be a weird overlap of the niches filled by the Interceptor and the Advanced. I'm already surprised to see the Advanced Prototype coming, but I guess that's to capitalise on Rebels.

The Assault Gunboat, Missile Boat and the TIE Aggressor (TIE variant with possible rear arc) would all be cool. I'd also love to see the ARC-170, but I think someone from FFG mentioned their reluctance to deal with the prequels.

TIE Avenger could be halfway between the Advanced and the Defender.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's a super narrow niche that doesn't need filling by a whole new ship.

The Empire disagrees with you.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's a super narrow niche that doesn't need filling by a whole new ship.

Because we needed the fo a points inefficient tie fighter right there was totally a need for that.

If anything the t-70 and fo prove ffg will make ships that over lap existing fighters.

TIE Avenger could be halfway between the Advanced and the Defender.

It's also a good opportunity to give the Imperials a ship with, like, a T-Roll.

TIE Avenger could be halfway between the Advanced and the Defender.

It's also a good opportunity to give the Imperials a ship with, like, a T-Roll.

Exactly it could be a supercepter, instead of speed two turns it has speed three turns be greens to reflect it's speed advantage over the interceptors, more durable but not quite as good at arc dodging.

Exactly it could be a supercepter

Indeed. Just like the Advanced is the SuperFighter, the Punisher is the SuperBomber and the Defender is the SuperHunter, and the Sentinel is the SuperAggressor. The Avenger IS the SuperInterceptor.

The Empire really needs to take lessons in creativity. It's just TIE variants all the way down.

The Empire really needs to take lessons in creativity. It's just TIE variants all the way down.

Sooooo very much this.

BUT I can't help but think if movies continued to be made directly after VI we might have got some non-TIE variant Imperial ships.

The Lambda was a step in the right direction...

Nowadays it seems if you're going to have an Imperial ship it's got to have some hint of TIE about it even on non-starfighters (c.f. Decimator, Raider, in X-Wing and those awful "police" air cars from CW/Rebels)

I really don't know if I want to see the TIE Avenger. I mean, it'll be a weird overlap of the niches filled by the Interceptor and the Advanced. I'm already surprised to see the Advanced Prototype coming, but I guess that's to capitalise on Rebels.

The Assault Gunboat, Missile Boat and the TIE Aggressor (TIE variant with possible rear arc) would all be cool. I'd also love to see the ARC-170, but I think someone from FFG mentioned their reluctance to deal with the prequels.

Because the Punisher and K-Wing fill a much needed niche, right? The game can handle a ~25 point Interceptor with 2 extra health and perhaps the ability to take the Advanced fix cards.

Could've sworn that in an interview, Alex Davy said they were still going to draw from the EU. Besides, we aren't getting new ships fast enough to do 2 waves a year.

I do believe that eventually there will be EU ships. But with the Star Wars Revival that we are seeing with the new trilogy (and extra movies) it makes complete sense for FFG to ride that wave (pun intended) and widen their marketing. I am all for FFG being a successful (read profitable) company, being around for a long time and being able to afford to gamble on the more minor things (read less profitable) we want.

What ship's are left:

Kylo`s shuttle

Tie cog

That's not a waves worth of ships is it.

Rogue one is set in gcw so we already have ships from that era already.

Rebels has already been covered.

If they want to keep up two waves a year they need the EU.

There is also a leaked TFA lego set that has what might be a b-wing shuttle variant type thing. It could see release as well. The spec-forces TIE we could see as well.

And S&V would probably have to be drawn from the EU or maybe from the new comics (Vader's helper's ship and Sana's ship are possibilities).

I have to agree that TFA is not going to fill an entire years worth of waves, though.

I really don't know if I want to see the TIE Avenger. I mean, it'll be a weird overlap of the niches filled by the Interceptor and the Advanced. I'm already surprised to see the Advanced Prototype coming, but I guess that's to capitalise on Rebels.

The Assault Gunboat, Missile Boat and the TIE Aggressor (TIE variant with possible rear arc) would all be cool. I'd also love to see the ARC-170, but I think someone from FFG mentioned their reluctance to deal with the prequels.

Because the Punisher and K-Wing fill a much needed niche, right? The game can handle a ~25 point Interceptor with 2 extra health and perhaps the ability to take the Advanced fix cards.

The K-Wing is different enough with SLAM and the primary turret, but I agree about the Punisher. I really don't think the Empire needed an even bigger Bomber.

I really don't know if I want to see the TIE Avenger. I mean, it'll be a weird overlap of the niches filled by the Interceptor and the Advanced. I'm already surprised to see the Advanced Prototype coming, but I guess that's to capitalise on Rebels.

The Assault Gunboat, Missile Boat and the TIE Aggressor (TIE variant with possible rear arc) would all be cool. I'd also love to see the ARC-170, but I think someone from FFG mentioned their reluctance to deal with the prequels.

Because the Punisher and K-Wing fill a much needed niche, right? The game can handle a ~25 point Interceptor with 2 extra health and perhaps the ability to take the Advanced fix cards.

The K-Wing is different enough with SLAM and the primary turret, but I agree about the Punisher. I really don't think the Empire needed an even bigger Bomber.

If they'd made it 3 attack primary could of been our b-wing would of seen lots of play then.

We get way to many 2 attack ships.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's a super narrow niche that doesn't need filling by a whole new ship.

I know what your saying here.

but I don't think similar stat lines equate to covering the same niche.

look at the dials. the new ties fly a lot like an interceptor with an S-loop.

as long as they keep giving the newer ships that are similar to old one different maneuvers and new upgrade slots I am not worried about stat line overlap.

New Dice that have no blanks just sides that say the force is strong with this one or your not a Jedi yet.

N-1 totally in wave 9.

I really don't know if I want to see the TIE Avenger. I mean, it'll be a weird overlap of the niches filled by the Interceptor and the Advanced. I'm already surprised to see the Advanced Prototype coming, but I guess that's to capitalise on Rebels.

The Assault Gunboat, Missile Boat and the TIE Aggressor (TIE variant with possible rear arc) would all be cool. I'd also love to see the ARC-170, but I think someone from FFG mentioned their reluctance to deal with the prequels.

Because the Punisher and K-Wing fill a much needed niche, right? The game can handle a ~25 point Interceptor with 2 extra health and perhaps the ability to take the Advanced fix cards.

I wouldn't expect any other ship to take the X1 title and Advanced Targeting Computer. Especially on a 3 Atk Ship.

I don't see why the Avenger would get to use either of those cards. Given that it wouldn't be called TIE Advanced.

N-1 totally in wave 9.

N-1 without the classic pilots is no good though?

N-1 totally in wave 9.

N-1 without the classic pilots is no good though?

Yeah, it would be weird, but I'd begrudgingly accept it. Hopefully they'd at least have a generic in there that's something like, "Naboo Retiree" or "Veteran" or something.

I would love the N-1, regardless of who flies in it (as long as it's not baby Anakin). It's the sleekest and sexiest looking spaceship I've ever seen.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's a super narrow niche that doesn't need filling by a whole new ship.

I would agree with you if this were the PC games.

However it is not, and somehow FFG have managed to squish in more design space "dimensions" that the PC games even had.

As they have said above, the TIE Avenger was basically a TIE Interceptor with more speed, shields, hyperdrive and missile launchers. In a sense, it was pure power creep, as once the TIE Avenger was available, there was absolutely zero point on using the TIE Interceptor anymore in the PC games. The same happened with other ships that fulfilled the same role: the Y-Wing with the B-Wing replacing it, the Assault Gunboat with the TIE Defender replacing it, the TIE Bomber with the Missile Boat replacing it, and so on. Even you can argue that the TIE Avenger was replaced by the TIE Defender, that basically behaves exactly the same, only better, faster and with ion cannons.

It is not like that at all in this game. Every single ship retains enough particular traits and specialized uses that not everybody immediately chooses the higher tier of fighters all the time, not even just because of the point cost.

So if the TIE Avenger were to be added to this game, FFG could give it enough tricks and toys particular to it that would make a difference with other ships in the same category without totally replacing them or being replaced by them.

What if it had white tallon rolls and green all speed turns, but no koiograns or other green maneuvers? The stat line could be 3/3/2/2 and stay true to its stats in the games. A generic title that allows it to equip a Beam upgrade cannon, and come with a Decoy Beam and a Jamming Beam with unique mechanics? Like the Decoy Beam allows you to forfeit your attack but double your agility when defending, and the Jamming Beam reduces the attack value of one attacker in your firing arc by 1 to a minimum of 1? It would allow it to perform jouster roles, or arc dodger roles, debuffer support, or whatever.

There is lots of design space for it to find itself a place here.