that looks like a Roman style ramming prow to me.

that looks like a Roman style ramming prow to me.

A Trireme would be a bold choice in space.

The ramming prow was intended to cause a hole below the waterline. For starships, everything is below the waterline.

More or less.

It almost looks unfinished... Like they were building an ISD, and they just ran out of material, so they said, "eh, good enough."

Don't like the design at all. The bridge adds so much to the original designs.

I do however reserve the right to completely change my mind when I've seen it in situ with TIEs buzzing around etc.

Hmm Ramming plow. You do 2 damage while taking 1 in return? My Mc80 was rammed by a speed 3 ISD last week. not nice!

Here you go.

Blast the Imperial March on the table, too?

The bow reminds me of some WW2-era Japanese carriers, like the Zuikaku:

It was the age of discovery with respect to aircraft carriers....and the Japanese had some of the most unique looking ships as they explored different configurations!....ja, I concur!

That look was largely due to the carriers in question being built on top of existing ships, with the flight deck supported by struts in the front. But it does look neat on the Star Destroyers .

Not to drag this too far off topic, but Akagi and Kaga were originally designed with flight decks below the main deck, so they could launch planes while the upper deck recovered. It didn't work once planes got too heavy for a short takeoff roll, and they were redesigned. But that may have been part of the reason for the configuration above...

I even like the Stardestroyers drom the prequels better then this....

I fear this is 1,5 or 2 times the size of an ISD and thus it will be THE biggest ship in Armada.

Is it called FOSD? Like First Order Star Destroyer?

Because every new **** has the FO in its name just to say ... "Yes this is First Order, this is First Order ... this is not the Empire. We are First Order. We are not the Empire. Yes, yes ... "

I just had a look at Star Wars Databank ...

this thing really is called 'First Order Star Destroyer'

So its not the First Order Class Star Destroyer ... like the Imperial class Star Destroyer or Victory class Star Destroyer ...

So I guess the First Order has only one model or type of Star Destroyers.....

http://www.starwars.com/databank/first-order-star-destroyer-finalizer

That doesn't mean that much to be honest. For a long time there was only the "Imperial Star Destroyer". Not Imperial-class or anything else.

And then i seem to recall before the Venator got a name in written stuff, it was just a Republic Cruiser 9or something similar).

Class names come later than the movies, because nobody cares about them except us geeks. Casual movie goers don't give a **** if it's a "First order-class", a "Finaliser-Class", or a "Big Grey triangle of death-class" as long as it looks cool on the screen.

Which, tbh, is fair enough.

I just had a look at Star Wars Databank ...

this thing really is called 'First Order Star Destroyer'

So its not the First Order Class Star Destroyer ... like the Imperial class Star Destroyer or Victory class Star Destroyer ...

So I guess the First Order has only one model or type of Star Destroyers.....

http://www.starwars.com/databank/first-order-star-destroyer-finalizer

Well to be fair, how much about other star destroyer designs was known after the original launch of the first SW movie? The big universe with myriads of designs and characters evolved after the first movies, not before. And much of the work was done by third parties or authors, added through games or franchises, or whatever. The database even reads "the finalizer was a first order star destroyer", that does not necessarily mean that there is only this type available to them. Its like saying the phrase "the Corruptor was an empirial star destroyer" would ban any other SDs from existence.. its just a very generic phrasing that lacks any detailed information (like subclass of the SD..).

I just had a look at Star Wars Databank ...

this thing really is called 'First Order Star Destroyer'

So its not the First Order Class Star Destroyer ... like the Imperial class Star Destroyer or Victory class Star Destroyer ...

So I guess the First Order has only one model or type of Star Destroyers.....

http://www.starwars.com/databank/first-order-star-destroyer-finalizer

Well to be fair, how much about other star destroyer designs was known after the original launch of the first SW movie? The big universe with myriads of designs and characters evolved after the first movies, not before. And much of the work was done by third parties or authors, added through games or franchises, or whatever. The database even reads "the finalizer was a first order star destroyer", that does not necessarily mean that there is only this type available to them. Its like saying the phrase "the Corruptor was an empirial star destroyer" would ban any other SDs from existence.. its just a very generic phrasing that lacks any detailed information (like subclass of the SD..).

There wasn't much to talk about it back these days. Star Wars has been evolving now over decades now...

I hope you are right ... but as a side note: Its not written like a 'First Order star destroyer', but 'First Order Star Destroyer' ... see the difference?

Ok, ok we will see.

I really REALLY hope that FFG isnt going to introduce First Order and Resistance subfactions with wave 3 ..............

I'd normally never say this but I don't like the design. It looks as others have said, like an unfinished ISD. It seemed alright when it had a curious curve up like a crocodile with an under bite with the first model. Defitintely not working those angular lines like the first star destroyer.

I'd normally never say this but I don't like the design. It looks as others have said, like an unfinished ISD. It seemed alright when it had a curious curve up like a crocodile with an under bite with the first model. Defitintely not working those angular lines like the first star destroyer.

What I've seen from First Order's ships, is like they've hired Karl Lagerfeld for the ship design

Cross faction in Star Wars is a whole different thing than in Star Trek lore wise. Star Wars is still a Civil War and Star Trek is the exact opposite.

I know triangles are the imperial's thing, but I would like more variety.

OBLIGITORY: It's a civil war, all ships should be cross faction (for a price)

Mostly yes, but I think the Rebels should only have access to low level Imperial ships and the Imperial warmachine is mostly only interested in re-captured ships. At least the Neb-B should be avaiable fpr IMperials at least.

Then however the Empire lost and it should be the other way around, whith plenty of ISD in Republic hands.

Bwings and interceptors? Ok sure, whatever. B-Wings and Rhymer? Activated by Yavaris?

But I still think, it should be limited on capital ships. Titels and Commanders (and Figthers) shoud be only available for one faction.

I think the new design looks terrible, personally. It looks like something designed between the Jedi Civil War Sith ships from KotOR, and the Imperial Star Destroyer, not afterwards. To each their own, I just hope that these stay out of Armada for a while.

While I don't entirely disagree with you (and I very much prefer the original ISD and have no intention of including the new SD in my armada fleet), to me it looks very much inspired by the Eclipse class SSD. Basically it looks more 'sith' and less 'imperial' (if that makes sense):

It makes sense and a very good point. I still think that the ecplise is not a good design.

It makes sense and a very good point. I still think that the ecplise is not a good design.

No, but if they make a First Order star destroyer I'm painting it jet black, with only tiny red windows and very subtle highlighting.

That's the closest we'll ever get to a SWA Eclipse, and it will look badass.

I even like the Stardestroyers drom the prequels better then this....

I fear this is 1,5 or 2 times the size of an ISD and thus it will be THE biggest ship in Armada.

Indeed. There is a tendency in many movie series and especially in Star Wars to overinflate the new stuff. We had it in Jurassic Park III where they had to have their 'new' dinosaur kill the fan favorite T-rex, and in Star Wars with the prequals having illogical technical advantages over the OT (Venators with 420 fighters and also going toe-to-toe in line battles with CIS star destroyers). I fully expect a scene in the new SW movie where a remnant ISD is getting dominated by a First Order SD.

As for the model, it seem to be a more or less dedicated carrier with tons of hangars. Logic dictates that assuming the size is roughly equal to the ISD, and barring great technological advantages in the 30 year time period, its firepower is probably significantly less considering much more space is used for fighters and therefor less is left to power the guns.

I even like the Stardestroyers drom the prequels better then this....

I fear this is 1,5 or 2 times the size of an ISD and thus it will be THE biggest ship in Armada.

Venators with 420 fighters and also going toe-to-toe in line battles with CIS star destroyers.

There were CIS Star Destroyers? Legit question, i don't remember these. Were they in Clone Wars?

I even like the Stardestroyers drom the prequels better then this....

I fear this is 1,5 or 2 times the size of an ISD and thus it will be THE biggest ship in Armada.

Indeed. There is a tendency in many movie series and especially in Star Wars to overinflate the new stuff. We had it in Jurassic Park III where they had to have their 'new' dinosaur kill the fan favorite T-rex, and in Star Wars with the prequals having illogical technical advantages over the OT (Venators with 420 fighters and also going toe-to-toe in line battles with CIS star destroyers). I fully expect a scene in the new SW movie where a remnant ISD is getting dominated by a First Order SD.

As for the model, it seem to be a more or less dedicated carrier with tons of hangars. Logic dictates that assuming the size is roughly equal to the ISD, and barring great technological advantages in the 30 year time period, its firepower is probably significantly less considering much more space is used for fighters and therefor less is left to power the guns.

True - the ISDs had this gigantic hangar bay which may not be that useful to handle fighters. So this could be fighter hangars all around - which would make sense. I mean we don't even know what those areas house as it goes for ISDs ... some point-defence weaponry? Of course ... but then what else?

Logic dictates...

I hate to be that guy, but you do realize this is Star Wars, right?

I even like the Stardestroyers drom the prequels better then this....

I fear this is 1,5 or 2 times the size of an ISD and thus it will be THE biggest ship in Armada.

Venators with 420 fighters and also going toe-to-toe in line battles with CIS star destroyers.

There were CIS Star Destroyers? Legit question, i don't remember these. Were they in Clone Wars?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Providence-class_carrier/destroyer

Star Destroyer is the basic term for any warship between 1 and 2km in length and a matching complement of weapons. (So Mon Calamari cruisers are not Star Destroyers because they are undergunned)

When the OT movies came out back then I thought they were called Star Destroyers because they destroy stars....

I even like the Stardestroyers drom the prequels better then this....

I fear this is 1,5 or 2 times the size of an ISD and thus it will be THE biggest ship in Armada.

Venators with 420 fighters and also going toe-to-toe in line battles with CIS star destroyers.

There were CIS Star Destroyers? Legit question, i don't remember these. Were they in Clone Wars?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Providence-class_carrier/destroyer

Star Destroyer is the basic term for any warship between 1 and 2km in length and a matching complement of weapons. (So Mon Calamari cruisers are not Star Destroyers because they are undergunned)

Oh, that silly system. Yeah, fair enough.