So the other night I thought it would be funny to run an all Wookiee list. Went with 2 regular Wookiee warriors, chewie, and garkaan. Ran up against a stormtrooper list (2 regs, 1 elite, kayn, two officers and a probe I think).

Boy did those wookies massacre the poor troopers. The hit points are insane. I think a heavy wookie list could do some serious work. Garkhaan sucks though.

I was thinking about 3 warriors, and either 3 sabs, or Luke, Gideon, and something else to fill. What sounds better? Wookiee/Sabs has a lot of units and action economy, but Luke and Gideon might be better as far as damage output goes.

Any thoughts?

Played this tonight:

2x Wookiee Warriors

2x Elite Sab

Luke

We played on the on one of the new maps with the experimental weapons. The list did well, Luke's rerolls feel like they really help the wookiees. Played against a trooper list with

2x Elite Stormtroopers

Elite Heavy Trooper

Kayn Somos

2x Officer

Went 40-16, but I was underwhelmed by the damage of the regular wookiees.

Went to my first tourney yesterday (also first time playing this game ever, which went as well as you could expect). One crazy fool was running four Wookiee Warriors, plus Garkhaan. He was wrecking faces from what I'd heard, though I don't know how he finished.

Went to my first tourney yesterday (also first time playing this game ever, which went as well as you could expect). One crazy fool was running four Wookiee Warriors, plus Garkhaan. He was wrecking faces from what I'd heard, though I don't know how he finished.

I really really really want to try that list. With 98 HP to chew through, and really powerful attacks, seems like a really powerful combo.

A variant I had been thinking of trying was four warriors with Gideon, Mak, and 3P0 or Gideon and Jyn

My own preference would be this:

--Tatooine Life Debts--

10 Luke

8 Wookie Warrior

8 Wookie Warrior

8 Wookie Warrior

3 Gideon

2 C3P0

1 Balance of the Force

http://ia-armies.com/army/5937vMjI

Luke allows rerolls and has the Saber Strike when you really need it; he also has a reliable ranged attack so that you have a bit more versatility in your attack options. And two Focuses per round (Gideon and 3P0) makes for lots of damage output. You could drop Balance of the Force if you wanted to be at 39pts and not have to worry about those first round initiative shenanigans.

Command Cards: Other than Son of Skywalker and the standard 0-cost cards (Take Initiative, Element of Surprise, etc), all of the Command Cards are focused on wookies and brawlers. Fleet Footed is nice for getting a wookie into position for a Roar and Attack combo.

Torn between the 2x warriors/Sabs and Luke and the 3x warriors Luke Gideon 3po...love the blast and speed of the sabs but the buffing of the other two are key.

Think they'd be viable against even the 4x4, except for the stunning.

you really have to keep 3po adjacent to your wookies...saboteur spam and 4/4 will stun your wookies otherwise and will keep 1 space away with their reach/range...the wookies will take long to die...but will do very few attacks...so saying to be viable against 4/4 but discount the stunning...is like saying vader would be awesome if he had speed 5 and an auto evade... but wookies can definetly be fun an performant if you discount top tier...

I like using diffrent stuff instead of spamming so would take the sabs+wookies personally.

However, if I would spam something it would be wookies!

Could some please try 4x4 vs.

4x Wookies

Gideon

R2-D2

C-3PO

and post the results?

Could some please try 4x4 vs.

4x Wookies

Gideon

R2-D2

C-3PO

and post the results?

Someone put it on IA Armies: http://ia-armies.com/army/p3RzV84c

Haven't tried any new Wookies yet myself.

Could some please try 4x4 vs.

4x Wookies

Gideon

R2-D2

C-3PO

and post the results?

My buddy played a similar list at a tournament at FFGC on Sunday--it's solid. I played WW x4 and Fury of Kashyyyk x4. It was decent, but got smashed by Elite Sabs. I think a variation of WW/Elite Sab/Luke/Gideon/C-3P0 can be extremely effective.

Could some please try 4x4 vs.

4x Wookies

Gideon

R2-D2

C-3PO

and post the results?

My buddy played a similar list at a tournament at FFGC on Sunday--it's solid. I played WW x4 and Fury of Kashyyyk x4. It was decent, but got smashed by Elite Sabs. I think a variation of WW/Elite Sab/Luke/Gideon/C-3P0 can be extremely effective.

Lists like these just get stunned and kited all day by guards/sabs unfortunately. With a black die, and no portector, it's pretty easy to get stunned. All the health and focuses in the world don't do you any good when you never get to attack. And I don't mean get stunned sometimes and have a rally in your hand or something, I mean stunned CONSTANTLY.

By far the biggest problem wookiees have.

I tested it myself just now... In the New map mos eisley cantina with the Informants.. 4x4 stunlocked the wookies almost completly... The end result in just 3 rounds due to time was 21-14...wookies could kill 2 officers and did 10 points on informants.. Rgs killed one pair of wookies(not so much but stunlocking is spreading DMG) and having 10 from informants and killing r2

I am building a list for today- trying to decide between Luke or Chewbacca.

15 Chewbacca

8 Wookie Warrior

8 Wookie Warior

3 Gideon

3 R2-D2

2 C-3P0

1 Balance of the Force

or

10 Luke

8 Wookie Warrior

8 Wookie Warrior

3 Gideon

3 R2-D2
2 C-3P0

This is as far as I have made it with the Luke based list. I have too many other combinations running through my head for those points. At 34 points, that's one short of putting ESabs in, I was thinking Mak would fit nicely, or maybe Jyn. But, given how I am thinking about playing, Mak would fit better. But, Jyn synergies well with C3P0. Or maybe even dropping Luke, which would take it down to 24 points, then adding in 2 ESabs, which leaves 2 points, I only have 2 sets of Wookie Warriors. Or maybe go 1 ESab and Biv.

Tournament today featured a lot of Wookies. I won with 3x reg wookies, Luke, Gideon, 3p0, and balance of the force.

Beat 3x wookies and chewie. Focused Luke wrecked everyone. I think the score was 40-2 on kuat b. Beat Luke, Gideon, 3p0, elite sabs, elite troopers, and fenn 40-0 oat mos eisley (the one with the combining things). Lost 20-18 on the informant mos Risley map to an imperial troopers list due to Luke biting it from an officer who rolled a dodge immediately before, and luke blanking on the last roll. Final match was kuat a, and 40-0 against 2x heavy storm troopers, RG, Kayn, Elite eweb.

Wookies are super tough. They don't hit hard, so they need another person who can do the heavy killing or focus them. They are not an answer to 4x4.

What are your thoughts on this list?

Wookies x2

Elite sabs x 2

Sabs

Gid

C3p0

12 models, with a fair amount of focus and speed. Haven't had a chance to play it yet. Doesn't have a real heavy hitter though so not sure how it will fair.

So, the list I decided on was-

9 Biv

8 Wookie

8 Wookie

7 Elite Saboteur

3 Gideon

3 R2-D2

2 C3P0

Only 3 people showed up, so, we played round robin, and I lost both- thanks to some pretty bad play mistakes and exceptionally bad dice rolls.

Before I continue, I want to compare two units:

8 Royal Guards: 8hp Red Yellow : Reach : ~Stun : ~ +2 damage : Protector: Move 5

8 Wookie Warrior: 11hp Red Green: ~ +1 Damage : ~ Bleed : ~ Cleave 2 : While attacking, free surge when suffered 5 or more damage : Move 4

So- the Royal Guards get the best surge dice (Yellow) and two really good surge abilities.

and the Wookies set three surge abilities which are ok. Stun is better than bleed, +2 is better than +1, and I'd say in this instance that Reach is better than Cleave 2, because Reach is free.

On the dice- they both toss a red- so that's even- on a Yellow- 4 of the 6 sides have a surge and 4 of the 6 have damage, with 2 overlapping. One 2 damage, Three 1 damage, and Two 0 damage.

For green, it's 5 sides have damage- 3 have surge, with 2 overlapping. 3 of the sides on green have 2 damage, 2 with 1, and 1 with 0.

Really, when you look at it, on the two units, the red + yellow and red + green are about even in terms of damage. While in straight damage terms Red + Green is better than Red + Yellow, if each side gets a surge and selects the additional damage, it's about the same. The big difference between the units is that Stun is just better than bleed. And 5 movement is better than 4. Is 3 hit points worth stun, + 1 movement, and protector? probably not. But, what really separates them is the support of imperial officers. I'd like to see 4 wookies and 4 royal guards face off with each having officers.

Anyway, back to the tournament- my first match was vs a 4x4. The game was a lot closer than I would have thought, and I might have won- but 4 focused Elite Saboteurs rolled a total of 2 surges. Biv did very well against the Royal Guards. Even when stunned, the fact that he could still use Close and Personal is nice. But, is one Biv worth 2 Wookie Warriors? Game went to time (I think Wookies are going to cause a lot of games to go to time), I was behind on points.

Second game- Kuat Space Station- (the one where the objective gains 3 vp at the end of each turn)- full of really bad play mistakes--- like really bad. With Wookies and Elite Sabs- the set up is near perfect. My opponent lines up his guys at the door (he's playing Boba, Elite Trandos, temp alliance, Gideon and R2). So, the bad stuff:

1- I open the door first.

2- because of that, he then opens his door and on two really good rolls from Trandos (one ranged, one he moved up for the +2 damage bonus) takes out Biv.

3- Ignoring what I originally planned, I run the Sabs down to control the terminals. Dumbass, I am.

4- I decide to let the 2 objectives build up surge the first two turns, not even considering that Boba can double move to take one of them.

5- Three separate times I attack with Wookies, and don't move them into position to take advantage of their possible cleave attack.

After the tournament- I played another game on the Cantina (the 2 objective tokens = 10 VP). finally, the surges decided to show up up for my Sabs. Twice I got double surge, and I used 2x blast twice, even though one of my wookies took 4 as well.

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Other thoughts- Royal Guards by themselves are the best troop in the game for their cost. The tactical advantage granted to them by the Officers just puts them over the top. The new rule helps, but doesn't help that much. As I realized in my game vs them (map where raiders spawn), once they got a victory point advantage, they could have played keep away and just tagged as I moved to try and corner them. But, in a game where there are objectives worth victory points, the movement is just that much more of an advantage. The guards have the next to top speed in the game (5 and top currently is 6)- and you are giving them a free move action.

Other thoughts- Royal Guards by themselves are the best troop in the game for their cost. The tactical advantage granted to them by the Officers just puts them over the top. The new rule helps, but doesn't help that much. As I realized in my game vs them (map where raiders spawn), once they got a victory point advantage, they could have played keep away and just tagged as I moved to try and corner them. But, in a game where there are objectives worth victory points, the movement is just that much more of an advantage. The guards are the fastest troop in the game (ie- no one faster)- and you are giving them a free move action.

Nitpicky detail... both Boba and Nexu have 6 speed, so guards are not the fastest.

He mentioned fastest "troops" nexu and boba are hardly troops

Same for RGC

My mistake- I wasn't including Boba and RGC because those are unique figures. I completely forgot about Nexu.

Fixed, but still stand by the statement.

So the other night I thought it would be funny to run an all Wookiee list. Went with 2 regular Wookiee warriors, chewie, and garkaan. Ran up against a stormtrooper list (2 regs, 1 elite, kayn, two officers and a probe I think).

Boy did those wookies massacre the poor troopers. The hit points are insane. I think a heavy wookie list could do some serious work. Garkhaan sucks though.

I was thinking about 3 warriors, and either 3 sabs, or Luke, Gideon, and something else to fill. What sounds better? Wookiee/Sabs has a lot of units and action economy, but Luke and Gideon might be better as far as damage output goes.

Any thoughts?

Garkhaan is actually be best melee counter to the RG as he can move and attack in one action preventing stunlock, he also has a damage output matching three standard wookie warriors when you account for his ability to perform multiple attacks a round and focus on a surge.

Played an interesting match tonight, did a pick up skirmish match and on the fly replaced Biv in my list with Jyn, Mak, and Balance of the force.

8 Wookie

8 Wookie

7 E Sabs

5 Jyn

3 Gideon

3 R2-D2

3 Mak

2 C3P0

1 Balance of the Force

These Wookies with 11 hits- roar is a really effective card.

I think Luke + Rebel High Command is better than Jyn/r2/mak/balance in that list.

Luke is amazing and buffs everyone.

While Jyn is decent, R2 and mak are basically useless most of the time.

R2 and his command card can solo dominate objectives. Also, he has a 33% chance to dodge and 6 health, meaning he will likely survive the first attack. He's a great little tank. Don't expect any offense out of him. It happens, but it's difficult.