Whole lotta boats out there now

By Rortharr, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

The yards should have hired extra longshoremen as soon as the strike ended.

That's not going to work. The union is protecting the ability of the workers to earn money from the fallout of the strike. Hiring more would disperse the money and work against what the strikers wanted. Remember, for them, this is their primary source of livelihood. For us, it's game books.

And selling these books are FFG's primary source of livelihood - plus a primary source of livelihood for everybody from FFG's distributors to their retailers.

I'm sure the longshoremen care about the people whose livelihoods their strike threatens. They just don't care that much.

And, no, hiring more people would not "disperse" the money - it means that the companies employing them have to pay more to get the job done. It is not unusual for shipping companies (and retailers and...) to hire on additional help during certain seasons of the year - particularly around the holidays - that doesn't mean that their money magically disappears. Of course, if the company can't afford to hire more workers, they may find themselves losing customers: Who wants to use a shipping company that can't ship anything or cannot ship anything on time? It wouldn't be the first time a strike has driven a company out of business and forced the striking laborers to find a new career.

The yards should have hired extra longshoremen as soon as the strike ended.

That's not going to work. The union is protecting the ability of the workers to earn money from the fallout of the strike. Hiring more would disperse the money and work against what the strikers wanted. Remember, for them, this is their primary source of livelihood. For us, it's game books.

And selling these books are FFG's primary source of livelihood - plus a primary source of livelihood for everybody from FFG's distributors to their retailers.

I'm sure the longshoremen care about the people whose livelihoods their strike threatens. They just don't care that much.

And, no, hiring more people would not "disperse" the money - it means that the companies employing them have to pay more to get the job done. It is not unusual for shipping companies (and retailers and...) to hire on additional help during certain seasons of the year - particularly around the holidays - that doesn't mean that their money magically disappears. Of course, if the company can't afford to hire more workers, they may find themselves losing customers: Who wants to use a shipping company that can't ship anything or cannot ship anything on time? It wouldn't be the first time a strike has driven a company out of business and forced the striking laborers to find a new career.

Unions work by creating an artificial shortage of workers. So because of the Union contract the ports actually are not allowed to hire more workers.

The workers that strike are now able to pull overtime to catch-up. This is less likely to happen if untrained extra labor is pulled in to cover the hump.

I'm curious why FFG seems to be the only one suffering. I haven't noticed this kind of backup with other companies (RPG/board game/or other Star Wars products) getting their products to market.

I'm curious why FFG seems to be the only one suffering. I haven't noticed this kind of backup with other companies (RPG/board game/or other Star Wars products) getting their products to market.

Do those other companies print in China? Do they use the same type of shipping? There are ways to avoid the backup at the port, but they are more expensive.

I'm curious why FFG seems to be the only one suffering. I haven't noticed this kind of backup with other companies (RPG/board game/or other Star Wars products) getting their products to market.

Do those other companies print in China? Do they use the same type of shipping? There are ways to avoid the backup at the port, but they are more expensive.

In the case of other Star Wars products it could also be a question of volume. Those other products are not likely to be as niche as this game is. Thus the sheer volume of them may mean they can afford to use faster shipping methods since they are going to make up those cost anyway. I'm pretty sure the Aftermath novel is going to out sell any given rpg product. Odds are it will outsell two or three of them combined.

I'm curious why FFG seems to be the only one suffering. I haven't noticed this kind of backup with other companies (RPG/board game/or other Star Wars products) getting their products to market.

Do those other companies print in China? Do they use the same type of shipping? There are ways to avoid the backup at the port, but they are more expensive.

I'm not in the industry, but from various podcast interviews, discussions of kickstarters and game forums, it seems like most of the RPG companies print in China to keep costs down.

I suppose volume makes sense.

In the case of other Star Wars products it could also be a question of volume. Those other products are not likely to be as niche as this game is. Thus the sheer volume of them may mean they can afford to use faster shipping methods since they are going to make up those cost anyway. I'm pretty sure the Aftermath novel is going to out sell any given rpg product. Odds are it will outsell two or three of them combined.

I knew it was a bit of a stretch to include other Star Wars products in the list given economy of scale, but I could see delays there if FFG was still trying to get Lucasfilm to sign off. Though I would expect that to delay unannounced products not stuff just printed.

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I'm curious why FFG seems to be the only one suffering. I haven't noticed this kind of backup with other companies (RPG/board game/or other Star Wars products) getting their products to market.

Do those other companies print in China? Do they use the same type of shipping? There are ways to avoid the backup at the port, but they are more expensive.

I'm not in the industry, but from various podcast interviews, discussions of kickstarters and game forums, it seems like most of the RPG companies print in China to keep costs down.

I suppose volume makes sense.

In the case of other Star Wars products it could also be a question of volume. Those other products are not likely to be as niche as this game is. Thus the sheer volume of them may mean they can afford to use faster shipping methods since they are going to make up those cost anyway. I'm pretty sure the Aftermath novel is going to out sell any given rpg product. Odds are it will outsell two or three of them combined.

I knew it was a bit of a stretch to include other Star Wars products in the list given economy of scale, but I could see delays there if FFG was still trying to get Lucasfilm to sign off. Though I would expect that to delay unannounced products not stuff just printed.

Like I said it could simply be a matter of volume. They aren't printing enough books to justify a faster shipping method. All things considered most other Star Wars products are producing an extremely high amount of volume. Hasbro is going to be putting out a ton of toys. They are going to pay a higher price to get their toys on shelves sooner. Lucas Books is going to print a ton of books. They are going to pay more to get those books on the shelves. By comparison this game is likely not producing nearly as much. Thus the shipping methods to keep cost reasonable are likely one of the slowest.

These matters are important to us but I have always gotten the impression that the Star Wars rpg (no matter who was making it) was always a small drop in the grand scheme of Star Wars products.

Anyone know how long the Edge of Empire Core reprint was on the boat? That might give us an idea how long until more things get off the boat.

I think it went on the boat 1 or 2 weeks before.