Closest point your arc can see

Touché. I did nag you over that same point.

Closest point your arc can see

Touché. I did nag you over that same point.

I don't quite understand what you are saying but I will do my best to answer.

So when you fire you:

1) check range

2) if in range check arc

-a firing arc is determined by extending the line on the base out creating a zone that is called your firing arc

3) if you have range and arc check LOS

- LOS or line of sight is determined by drawing a strait line from the yellow dot on the attacker to the yellow dot on the defender

-if this line passes through one of the arc lines of the DEFENDER (just the printed portion on the base not the imaginary extension) there is no LOS and that attack is illegal.

-Also note LOS CAN pass through the attacker's arc (this can happen when an arc clips the corner of the defenders base)

Specifically "(just the printed portion on the base not the imaginary extension)"; where is this in the rules? I agree with you, but I've had opponents argue otherwise, specifically at the recent Sullest event. It cost me several good shots because I wasn't willing to argue at the top of my lungs.

I don't quite understand what you are saying but I will do my best to answer.

So when you fire you:

1) check range

2) if in range check arc

-a firing arc is determined by extending the line on the base out creating a zone that is called your firing arc

3) if you have range and arc check LOS

- LOS or line of sight is determined by drawing a strait line from the yellow dot on the attacker to the yellow dot on the defender

-if this line passes through one of the arc lines of the DEFENDER (just the printed portion on the base not the imaginary extension) there is no LOS and that attack is illegal.

-Also note LOS CAN pass through the attacker's arc (this can happen when an arc clips the corner of the defenders base)

Specifically "(just the printed portion on the base not the imaginary extension)"; where is this in the rules? I agree with you, but I've had opponents argue otherwise, specifically at the recent Sullest event. It cost me several good shots because I wasn't willing to argue at the top of my lungs.

So we have to look in 2 places for this answer (well 2 very near places)

Anyway under "line of sight" in the RRG:

If LOS is traced through a HULL ZONE on the defender...

Under 'Hull Zones": a hull zone is a section of a *SHIP TOKEN*...

These points are found on page 6 & 7 of the RRG I would suggest reading the rest your self

Hope that helps!

I don't quite understand what you are saying but I will do my best to answer.

So when you fire you:

1) check range

2) if in range check arc

-a firing arc is determined by extending the line on the base out creating a zone that is called your firing arc

3) if you have range and arc check LOS

- LOS or line of sight is determined by drawing a strait line from the yellow dot on the attacker to the yellow dot on the defender

-if this line passes through one of the arc lines of the DEFENDER (just the printed portion on the base not the imaginary extension) there is no LOS and that attack is illegal.

-Also note LOS CAN pass through the attacker's arc (this can happen when an arc clips the corner of the defenders base)

Specifically "(just the printed portion on the base not the imaginary extension)"; where is this in the rules? I agree with you, but I've had opponents argue otherwise, specifically at the recent Sullest event. It cost me several good shots because I wasn't willing to argue at the top of my lungs.

Good question!

So we have to look in 2 places for this answer (well 2 very near places)

Anyway under "line of sight" in the RRG:

If LOS is traced through a HULL ZONE on the defender...

Under 'Hull Zones": a hull zone is a section of a *SHIP TOKEN*...

These points are found on page 6 & 7 of the RRG I would suggest reading the rest your self

Hope that helps!

Thank you. They key point is that hull zone is part of the ship token. Given the opponent in the example I doubt mere logic would have helped, but at least I know where to point to when it comes up.

Btw, with the current rules, there is no such thing as a "quick Los question".

Someone else want to do the same joke again?

Well I do now.