Stay on target and red Maneuvers

By Lyconnus, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Ok so per the rulebook the phase is resolved like this.

1. Reveal Dial: Reveal the ship’s dial and take the maneuver template that matches the chosen maneuver.

2. Execute Maneuver: Resolve the following substeps in order:

a. Move Ship: Slide the maneuver template between the front guides of the ship’s base so that it is flush against the base. Then pick up the ship and place it at the opposite end of the template, sliding the rear guides of the base into the opposite end of the template.

b. Check Pilot Stress: If the maneuver is red, assign one stress token to the ship; if the maneuver is green, remove one stress token from the ship.

c. Clean Up: Return the maneuver template to the pile of maneuver templates. Place the revealed dial outside the play area next to the ship’s Ship card.

While the card info reads for Stay on Target as such:

“When you reveal a maneuver, you may rotate your dial to another maneuver with the same speed. Treat your maneuver as a red maneuver." So today during a friendly game myself and another person were watching someone with Wedge reveal a K-turn then use this to keep the other ship in his sights by changing his move. Based on the rules above that the judge had handy. He ruled in favor of wedge being allowed to do it and receive one stress token. Is that correct?

Edited by Lyconnus

You didn't say which maneuver he changed to - the only other maneuver available to SOT when an X-wing reveals a 4K-Turn is a 4 straight as the maneuvers have to be the same speed.

So provided the player changed a 4k for a 4 straight then that's fine - if he changed his 4k for a turn or a bank maneuver it was an illegal move because there are no 4-speed turns or banks

Edited by Funkleton

You didn't say which maneuver he changed to - the only other maneuver available to SOT when an X-wing reveals a 4K-Turn is a 4 straight as the maneuvers have to be the same speed.

So provided the player changed a 4k for a 4 straight then that's fine - if he changed his 4k for a turn or a bank maneuver it was an illegal move because there are no 4-speed turns or

Nah he didn't do anything crazy like that. What he did to change it to that is the other player took off with An A-wing with a 5 straight then a boost and he chased and guessed incorrectly by plotting a K-turn. Now. Another question if he goes from Straight 4 to K 4 does he receive two stress tokens or only one? As I'm sure the golden rule takes effect. Cards overwrite the rulebook in all respects.

Edited by Lyconnus

Now. Another question if he goes from Straight 4 to K 4 does he receive two stress tokens or only one? As I'm sure the golden rule takes effect. Cards overwrite the rulebook in all respects.

The card says that when you use SOT to change to a different maneuver of the same speed, you treat that maneuver as a red maneuver.

The rules say that when you perform a red maneuver you receive 1 stress token.

Another question if he goes from Straight 4 to K 4 does he receive two stress tokens or only one? As I'm sure the golden rule takes effect. Cards overwrite the rulebook in all respects.

I don't understand where the second stress comes from here.

K. I just wanted clarification is all. Thanks guys.

Another question if he goes from Straight 4 to K 4 does he receive two stress tokens or only one? As I'm sure the golden rule takes effect. Cards overwrite the rulebook in all respects.

I don't understand where the second stress comes from here.

He's thinking one for the Stay on Target and one for the K-turn he's changed to.

But Stay On Target doesn't deal stress.

But Stay On Target doesn't deal stress.

Yeah, he's confused and thinking it makes it "double red" so you would get two stress tokens.

But Stay On Target doesn't deal stress.

Well, it makes you treat the maneuver as red, which deals stress, so in a roundabout way, it kinda does. But yeah, it doesn't make a K-Turn really red, so just one stress token.

But Stay On Target doesn't deal stress.

Well, it makes you treat the maneuver as red, which deals stress, so in a roundabout way, it kinda does. But yeah, it doesn't make a K-Turn really red, so just one stress token.

Yes, kind of, but it's much more helpful in terms of learning how to apply the rules to say that it doesn't say that.

Because it doesn't say that.

What it actually tells you to do is:

"Do the what the rules say about red maneuvers when you use SOT to change your maneuver"