Does Secret Passage cost an action?

By YamiDragoon, in Descent: Journeys in the Dark

Oooph so many questions to ask :D

So I found the Search card "Secret Passage", which says..

Place a secret room entrance token in your space. You may immediately explore this secret room without spending a movement point.....

So, does exploring still cost an action, or is this free of ANY cost, neither move nor any other cost (like searching), etc..?

And, when I'm actually getting a secret room, am I immediately placed inside its entrance or do I have to move there?

We read the rules a few times but didn't quite get that..

Off-Topic question, so I don't have to start ANOTHER thread:

Does Alys Raine's ability include herself, if she takes damage, or only those around her?

Each time a hero adjacent to you suffers 1 or more damage from an attack, you recover 1 fatigue.

Edited by YamiDragoon

1) Check out Lair of the Wyrm rulebook, page 5. 1 movement point. You move from secret room entrance to secret room entrance LIKE they're adjacent, but they're not actually adjacent for any purpose.

Exploring a secret room is the first time- you find the card after taking a search action, which places the secret door token. You then spend a movement point to explore, which flips a secret room card, sets up the room, and puts you in it. After that point, any hero on the secret door tile can spend a movement point to move to the secret room entrance tile on the secret room.

2) No. A space is not adjacent to itself. Alys is in her own line of sight, she is within 1 space of herself, but she is NOT adjacent to herself.

1) You then spend a movement point to explore, which flips a secret room card, sets up the room, and puts you in it.

Yeah, that's what I mean.. does it still count as an, I'll say, 2nd action after the initial search on the search token?

Not unless anywhere in that paragraph on exploring a secret room it says, "a hero on a secret toom entrance space may explore ir as an action" or "as an action..." Spending a movement pont is not an action.

Not unless anywhere in that paragraph on exploring a secret room it says, "a hero on a secret toom entrance space may explore ir as an action" or "as an action..." Spending a movement pont is not an action.

Oh?

We thought moving is an action..

Have we understood wrong, that

1) moving is an action

2) you can move twice, if you decide not to do any other action

3) you can interrupt movement, attack or do something else and finish the first movement

4) if moving twice, you get twice the movement points to "use" (as in.. hero has 4, moving 4 spaces, then 4 again)

Now I'm confused..

The way I like to think about it is this.

  • During your turn, you can perform two actions from that list (move, attack, search, etc.)
  • When you perform a move action, you gain number of movement points equal to your speed.
  • Also during your turn, you may spend a fatigue to gain a movement point as often as you like.
  • Whenever your character has a pool of movement points, you may spend them to move (even if it's not your turn)
  • At the end of your turn, any unused movement points are lost.

This takes care of most problems and questions that our group has run into.

1) You then spend a movement point to explore, which flips a secret room card, sets up the room, and puts you in it.


Yeah, that's what I mean.. does it still count as an, I'll say, 2nd action after the initial search on the search token?


It only requires a movement point.

As long as you have a movement point, you can just spend it. If you need to use an action to get that movement point, so be it. However, you could also spend a fatigue to gain a movement point without using an action. So the exploration itself does not require an action, just a movement point.

Edited by Lifer4700

So "You may immediately explore this secret room without spending a movement point....."

means "You may enter the secret room immediately without the use of any movement point (or action)"? :)

Yes. If the normal cost is just a MP, and that cost is waived, it is totally free.

Lifer4700 had a good response regarding actions. An action is not a general "sonething you do", it is specifically one of the default actions (move, attack, open/close door, search), a special action described by a quest, or another ability denoted with the action arrow or the text "as an action..." Things that do not meet these criteria are not considered actions. They may have a cost associated with them, such as a fatigue.

If you are doing a "non-action" "during your turn", you can do it BEFORE or AFTER performing an action, or DURING a MOVE action.

Things that are NOT actions that you might think are actions:

-Disciple's prayer of healing

-Runemaster's quick casting

-Knight's advance

-Monster moving from the OL card "blinding speed."

Edited by Zaltyre