Just confirmed - you can reliably get all 3 with a cheesy Erestor + Love of Tales deck.

Did you make a video? That cracks me up.

No, but if you watched my video on the Super Bilbo deck, it's very similar. You just take out the weak resource-generating cards (Wealth of Gondor, Gaining Strength, etc.) and replace them with Love of Tales and Songs. It just becomes insane and Bilbo is questing for 20-30 willpower by turn 2. This was actually my first iteration of the deck idea, but I figured people were tired of seeing LoT so I wanted to see if the deck could still be viable with alternative resource cards.

Sorry to be thick, but what card are you using to get Bilbo such Willpower?

Indeed, I am very intrigued by this potentially absurdly good deck. Is it good in this scenario only or have you tried it against more quests?

Once Bilbo has a pile of resources I play Lay of Nimrodel to give him lots of willpower.

In an effort to not derail the thread I will make a post over in the strategy forum.

LOL! What you guys call ''cheesy'' I call ''fun''!!!

It seems strange to me that they would release a decklist in parallel with a new scenario that has absolutely no chance of ever beating it. I haven't tried it myself yet (AP is still in the mail) but that's what I gather from the responses so far. I wonder how much these decklists are tested.

Rule of thumb:

new heroes do rarely fit with 'their' scenarios

I noticed with AP the it's often cards that are relaesed later on that can help beat an AP.

I noticed with AP the it's often cards that are relaesed later on that can help beat an AP.

Exactly.

Though I have to admit that Erestor is somewhat helpful in this scenario. Just got a swift 97 points win with Erestor and his Noldor pals Elrond and Galadriel. I had the famous Vilya + Light of Valinor combo in my starting hand which was soon joined by a combo that I am really growing fond of: Silver Harp + Elrond's Counsel. The rest was done by Henamarth and Protector of Lorien. Henamarth is so cool in this scenario, a shame I have only one copy of him!

I noticed with AP the it's often cards that are relaesed later on that can help beat an AP.

Exactly.

Though I have to admit that Erestor is somewhat helpful in this scenario. Just got a swift 97 points win with Erestor and his Noldor pals Elrond and Galadriel. I had the famous Vilya + Light of Valinor combo in my starting hand which was soon joined by a combo that I am really growing fond of: Silver Harp + Elrond's Counsel. The rest was done by Henamarth and Protector of Lorien. Henamarth is so cool in this scenario, a shame I have only one copy of him!

How the hell do Silver Harp and Elrond's Counsel combo together? EC doesn't have anything to do with discarding cards.

I noticed with AP the it's often cards that are relaesed later on that can help beat an AP.

Exactly.

Though I have to admit that Erestor is somewhat helpful in this scenario. Just got a swift 97 points win with Erestor and his Noldor pals Elrond and Galadriel. I had the famous Vilya + Light of Valinor combo in my starting hand which was soon joined by a combo that I am really growing fond of: Silver Harp + Elrond's Counsel. The rest was done by Henamarth and Protector of Lorien. Henamarth is so cool in this scenario, a shame I have only one copy of him!

How the hell do Silver Harp and Elrond's Counsel combo together? EC doesn't have anything to do with discarding cards.

Oh no, you're right! Looks like I (like, totally ) misread the card text.

So basically the only use of the harp is that you can get back one of the cards that you discard at the and of the round or via Protector of Lorien? That's certainly a still ok-ish ability, but 2 resources is expensive for that...

Or use Daeron's Runes effectively without needing to discard, or recover a card lost to the Mirror of Galadriel. In other contexts, it'll work with Cirdan, it works with Elven Spear, it works with Eowyn, it works with ally Erestor, and it works with encounter card effects which discard from your hand. I'd say you're kind of paying for the flexibility.

Or use Daeron's Runes effectively without needing to discard, or recover a card lost to the Mirror of Galadriel. In other contexts, it'll work with Cirdan, or it works with Elven Spear, or it works with Eowyn, or it works with ally Erestor, and or it works with encounter card effects which discard from your hand. I'd say you're kind of paying for the flexibility.

Just made a small correction. While all you're saying is true, you can only use the harp once per turn. That's a lack of flexibility! I can totally see the benefit of this card, but for my taste it's too expensive for what it offers.

Especially as you can pay these 2 resources for playing Arwen, Bilbo or any of the other 2 WP spirit allies (or LoV, or..., or..., or...). That's especially true when you're playing with Erestor, as you want to play a good card immediatly from your hand instead of saving another good card for the next turn.

Or use Daeron's Runes effectively without needing to discard, or recover a card lost to the Mirror of Galadriel. In other contexts, it'll work with Cirdan, it works with Elven Spear, it works with Eowyn, it works with ally Erestor, and it works with encounter card effects which discard from your hand. I'd say you're kind of paying for the flexibility.

Just made a small correction. While all you're saying is true, you can only use the harp once per turn. That's a lack of flexibility!

...no it's not. It can do many different things, that's flexibility. Would you say Core Gandalf isn't flexible because you can only trigger one of his enters play effects at a time? I hope not, because being able to do multiple at a time would be overpowered, and so would being able to repeatedly reuse the Harp instead of having to choose which use you felt was optimal at the time.