My only contribution to this... Correct. It does not specifically say you can't use multiple ISD in the final 400pt game. But. As the IFF guys said. "Failure to exclude does not allow inclusion".
Course. If we could see 2 ISD against 2mc80. Lots of fighters. Nice.
I'm going to cite previous examples.
In the X-Wing wave 4 pre-release event, Assault on Imdaar Alpha, we had this exact same thing arise. Someone who won a Z-95 headhunter at the previous day's tournament(a Z-95 was a Wave 4 ship and at the time, unreleased) wanted to fly it in the final match. The ONLY wave 4 ships that were allowed in the final match were the 4 "tournament prize" ships.
I understand your reasoning for asking the question, but I also hope you understand the INTENT of the event. You would have an unfair advantage over your opponent if you are able to field TWO Imperials Star Destroyers, for example.
Yeah, Lyraeus, dude...rules don't explicitly disallow you from doing things. No game can list all the things you're not allowed to do, nor can tournament rules. That leads us back to absurd suggestions of "the rules don't say I can't change my shields when I want, or move my opponent's models, or punch her in the face. The rules don't say a dog can't play basketball!"
Rules tell you what is allowed. The rules say all official FFG models are allowed when they are released (which they are not, and will not be tomorrow). The rules for this tournament also stipulate that one of each Wave 2 ship is allowed, and required, for the final match. They also stipulate that this tournament is being run in accordance with all tournament rules.
If you want to make the case that the final match is not being run in accordance with tournament rules...then you actually have no document to refer to to prohibit ScottieATF's silly claim that he can play with his homemade ships and upgrades. Why? Because the same document that says that they're not legal is the one that says wave 2 ships aren't legal: the tournament rules.
Trying to construct a wrong interpretation of the rules, based not on written fact, but on "intent" and "interpretation", and then claiming to be devil's advocate, is something I've seen you do a lot on here recently, and it's not constructive. The rules are clear. Everyone else can agree, and point out the rules, how they apply, and why they apply. Claiming that someone might disagree with that is fine, because players can argue over anything, but implying that there is any inherent value to someone disagreeing is wrong. They would be wrong. That is not how the rules work.
If you're going to be TOing these events, it's your responsibility to enforce the rules the event is being run in accordance with, and to correct players who disagree with them.
So just as I said.
There is a specific exception, in the form of a mandate, made for the event kit contents. That specific exception in no way provides a general exception to any other fleet construction rules or alters what would constitute a legal component beyond the kit contents.
Again no exception to a ruleset can be assumed to exceed the scope of what it specifically entails. You can not approach a ruleset in that manner and have the ruleset be functional.
You really should of read it first.
". . . And they may fill the remainder of their fleets with any of the factional egalitarian ships, squadrons, and upgrades from the rest of their collection. "
Stop assuming I am always disagreeing with you.
You are taking liberties you shouldn't be. You cannot use any extra wave two you may happen to have.
You really should of read it first.
". . . And they may fill the remainder of their fleets with any of the factional-legal ships, squadrons, and upgrades from the rest of their collection. "
Stop assuming I am always disagreeing with you.
*fixed.
I dunno, it does kinda sound like you're disagreeing with everyone. But I presume from this post that you acknowledge that nothing in wave-2 is currently faction legal for a tournament, given that none of those ships have been officially released yet, and therefore the only exceptions to faction legality are the ones explicitly stated here.
So no 2 ISD-list for anybody.
You really should of read it first.
". . . And they may fill the remainder of their fleets with any of the factional-legal ships, squadrons, and upgrades from the rest of their collection. "
Stop assuming I am always disagreeing with you.
*fixed.
I dunno, it does kinda sound like you're disagreeing with everyone. But I presume from this post that you acknowledge that nothing in wave-2 is currently faction legal for a tournament, given that none of those ships have been officially released yet, and therefore the only exceptions to faction legality are the ones explicitly stated here.
So no 2 ISD-list for anybody.
Thank you for the fix. I missed that and have been at a Massing at Sullust all day.
Yes. This was me acknowledging that I was wrong.