I've browsed the forums and haven't seen much of this ship mentioned. It was a real tough cookie in Star Wars Galaxies and would make a great addition to the Rebel side.

There's half a dozen better candidates, Rebels aren't lacking AT ALL in the large ship department, it's the small ships they're practically out of.

Oh god, please no.

I could **** near marry a copy of Star Wars Galaxies, but I do not want the X-4 poorly thought out, bastard child of Y-Wing and Lambda anywhere near me. In fact, I may even file a restraining order against it.

EDIT: I also always hated how it was an "Incom" ship with it is so, painfully, OBVIOUSLY a creation of Koensayr's.

EDIT: I also always hated how it was an "Incom" ship with it is so, painfully, OBVIOUSLY a creation of Koensayr's.

I'm with you on that one. :-)

If I recall, X4 was the key ingredient in Hypno-Helio-Static-Stasis...

I don't see a turret on it so probably not a good rebel ship

Doubtful it is, any more EU will there be.

Oh now that I look closer it appears to have a very flat looking turret forward and possibly two aft....so yes perfect for the rebel scum faction

Doubtful it is, any more EU will there be.

Na that's a load

We will continue to get original EU ships until the end of the world

We also will start seeing Disney EU ships at some point but that's a wee while off yet I think

I kinda like this ship always reminded me of a shrunk down marauder class corvette.

But yeah rebels arn't really hurting for big ships and there's probably going to be a bunch of new stuff coming i just hope FFG sprinkle in some of the old galaxies and eu ships with the new.

I imagine we'll get a solid year of releases out of episodes seven and eight, then they might have to fish around after that.

They'll finally run out if imperial ships that they'll have to do the Assault Gunboat, right?

(They'll never make it!)

I imagine we'll get a solid year of releases out of episodes seven and eight, then they might have to fish around after that.

They'll finally run out if imperial ships that they'll have to do the Assault Gunboat, right?

(They'll never make it!)

They will make it.

Or we will come with lightsabers and pitchforks and say terrible things to them.

Terrible things.

I imagine we'll get a solid year of releases out of episodes seven and eight, then they might have to fish around after that.

They'll finally run out if imperial ships that they'll have to do the Assault Gunboat, right?

(They'll never make it!)

They will make it.

Or we will come with lightsabers and pitchforks and say terrible things to them.

Terrible things.

They will make it.... That or we'll all make Mel a millionaire by continuing to buy his.

EDIT: Sorry, back to the topic at hand!

I hated that ship in Galaxies, always beating up on my poor Oppressor. But putting that aside, I agree with the consensus; Rebels dont need another large ship right now, especially one with turrets.

The Raven's Claw would be cool. I don't think it would be considered a Large ship though. It would be faster/more maneuverable than the Moldy Crow in my opinion, but probably still a support ship mostly. Do the Rebels need another one?

I kinda like this ship always reminded me of a shrunk down marauder class corvette.

But yeah rebels arn't really hurting for big ships and there's probably going to be a bunch of new stuff coming i just hope FFG sprinkle in some of the old galaxies and eu ships with the new.

I... I sure hope that reminds you of a Marauder.

The Raven's Claw would be cool. I don't think it would be considered a Large ship though. It would be faster/more maneuverable than the Moldy Crow in my opinion, but probably still a support ship mostly. Do the Rebels need another one?

SCREW THAT ABOMINATION

I'd take space-SR71 over space-EA6B pretty much any day tbh

The Raven's Claw is a poorly designed mess.

I would prefer it if they made a good ship instead

Doubtful it is, any more EU will there be.

Yeah no EU in wave eight is there...

It's going to be a long time before the new movies make enough ships to make multiple waves a year.

Also the new films may suck and basing sales on them before you know you have a fan base is bad business.

And finally the core customer base likes the OT, most like some parts of the EU and if you stop using ships from it you'll anger your existing players.

Hi

Yes, i too think they will go on with the old EU ships. But first Disney wants to clean up the canon. And if they continue the way they did till know, we will see some of those old EU.

If you take a look at the Star Wars Disney productions (Clone Wars and Rebels), they took a lot of the old EU. For example: Bossk flying a YV-666, the Star Yacht and many others.

The clean up is imo really necessary, because about 75% of the EU books are really bad :-/

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PSA: The Clone Wars is not a disney production.

Doubtful it is, any more EU will there be.

Yeah no EU in wave eight is there...

It's going to be a long time before the new movies make enough ships to make multiple waves a year.

Also the new films may suck and basing sales on them before you know you have a fan base is bad business.

And finally the core customer base likes the OT, most like some parts of the EU and if you stop using ships from it you'll anger your existing players.

The new films are pretty much guaranteed a fanbase from just being Star Wars movies. It's unlikely that there will be less people eager to buy Force Awakens ships than people eager to buy the Mist Hunter or M3-A Interceptor because the audience for the films is just so much larger. Not to mention plenty of the EU ships aren't from great stories (Like the IG-2000).

I expect movie releases to dominate future waves with the annual release schedule, though there will probably still be EU or cartoon ships between them.

Doubtful it is, any more EU will there be.

Yeah no EU in wave eight is there...

It's going to be a long time before the new movies make enough ships to make multiple waves a year.

Also the new films may suck and basing sales on them before you know you have a fan base is bad business.

And finally the core customer base likes the OT, most like some parts of the EU and if you stop using ships from it you'll anger your existing players.

The new films are pretty much guaranteed a fanbase from just being Star Wars movies. It's unlikely that there will be less people eager to buy Force Awakens ships than people eager to buy the Mist Hunter or M3-A Interceptor because the audience for the films is just so much larger. Not to mention plenty of the EU ships aren't from great stories (Like the IG-2000).

I expect movie releases to dominate future waves with the annual release schedule, though there will probably still be EU or cartoon ships between them.

Because the prequels were universally loved right? they are guaranteed to make money that's all that's a certainty.

If the films are decent or even just passable then no problem, if they are prequel bad trying to force ships from them on a player base made up of OT fans will go badly.

Kids are not a customer base you can depend on they get bored and move onto other things and have no money just as GW, making a move like pushing ships from unpopular movies could ruin all they've built.

Remember GW's lord of the rings bubble, that was a massive earner for 3 years then all interest died a death when the films ended.

You don't put all your eggs in one basket, people will buy EU ships so it would be stupid not to keep using them.

Doubtful it is, any more EU will there be.

Yeah no EU in wave eight is there...

It's going to be a long time before the new movies make enough ships to make multiple waves a year.

Also the new films may suck and basing sales on them before you know you have a fan base is bad business.

And finally the core customer base likes the OT, most like some parts of the EU and if you stop using ships from it you'll anger your existing players.

The new films are pretty much guaranteed a fanbase from just being Star Wars movies. It's unlikely that there will be less people eager to buy Force Awakens ships than people eager to buy the Mist Hunter or M3-A Interceptor because the audience for the films is just so much larger. Not to mention plenty of the EU ships aren't from great stories (Like the IG-2000).

I expect movie releases to dominate future waves with the annual release schedule, though there will probably still be EU or cartoon ships between them.

Because the prequels were universally loved right? they are guaranteed to make money that's all that's a certainty.

If the films are decent or even just passable then no problem, if they are prequel bad trying to force ships from them on a player base made up of OT fans will go badly.

Kids are not a customer base you can depend on they get bored and move onto other things and have no money just as GW, making a move like pushing ships from unpopular movies could ruin all they've built.

Remember GW's lord of the rings bubble, that was a massive earner for 3 years then all interest died a death when the films ended.

You don't put all your eggs in one basket, people will buy EU ships so it would be stupid not to keep using them.

Again, I think you underestimate just how many people will watch the movies and like them. You talk about the prequels, but plenty of Star Wars fans do like the prequels and buy prequel merchandise. It's not just kids either, we're talking about costly collector stuff like Sideshow Collectibles. X-Wing doesn't have prequel ships for a number of reasons (requirement for new factions, the conflict with the game's setting, FFG aren't fans of the Clone Wars era), but it's not because FFG thinks an ARC-170 will sell worse than a Scyk Fighter.

The Lord of the Rings example you gave shows exactly why FFG will prioritize movie ships: The Lord of the Rings line was a massive success for GW. That they didn't hold their audience has more to do with GW's customer-alienating policies than anything else. Unless the new Star Wars movies are consistently worse than the prequels, merchandise based on those recent blockbusters will be massively more profitable than merchandise based on decades old literature and games of varying quality. Add in the fact that these movies will have a yearly release schedule that will continue indefinitely in the foreseeable future, and it's clear their merchandise will remain popular for a long time.

I think there will still be EU material (I'm surprised we haven't gotten Talon Karrde in any form), but it will almost certainly play second fiddle to movie material. And I'm fine with that. Even if the movies turn out to be consistently bad, I'm fine buying ships from bad stories if the ship designs are cool (See: IG-2000).

The Lord of the Rings example you gave shows exactly why FFG will prioritize movie ships: The Lord of the Rings line was a massive success for GW. That they didn't hold their audience has more to do with GW's customer-alienating policies than anything else.

Oh no the bubble burst long before the current wave of displeasure with GW.

They were still highly popular then the rot didn't set in until after 2004-2005 when they cancelled specialist games started to withdraw support for lotr because sales dropped and they started to push ever bigger armies onto customers while delivering worse rules.

All that happened while they swapped focus from vets to kids because vet's don't spend money according to GW.

Yes for a short time TFA stuff will be popular but will it stay that way? you know OT stuff will still sell in 10 years you can't know the same will be true of the new films.

Unless the new Star Wars movies are consistently worse than the prequels, merchandise based on those recent blockbusters will be massively more profitable than merchandise based on decades old literature and games of varying quality.

Yeah no the OT has kept it's popularity for 3 decades for a reason, lucas pushed the prequels onto people and it never gained the popularity of the originals.

Most people on here fondly remember the x-wing series of games but who here even remembers a clone wars game?

I remember alot of bad ones i can't think of one i'd consider a classic.

but plenty of Star Wars fans do like the prequels

Out of over a hundred forum members maybe five are real fans of the prequels, a few more don't mind them but overwhelmingly the majority hate those films you can see that every time a prequel thread pops up.

FFG is fully aware of where it's core player base lies and it's not with the prequels.