Targetting Astromech speculation

By Rakaydos, in X-Wing

I'm not sure how anyone expects to fit "straight" onto that first line, especially not Straight (^)

Both green and white fit a 5 character space, and Perform or Reveal are close enough in length that it's difficult to tell which one it has to be.

This is not the text, but!

It occurred to me that as a help for low PS ordnance ships, a 'mech that gives you a TL token whenever a ship passes within range 2 of your ship would be useful and nasty. It would let a Y-Wing, for instance- take a focus token secure in the knowledge that any opponent you could actually fire on would come to _you_ instead of feeling annoyed that they started at range 4 and now are at range 2 but you can't actually get the token you need to fire on them.

I'm not sure how anyone expects to fit "straight" onto that first line, especially not Straight (^)

Both green and white fit a 5 character space, and Perform or Reveal are close enough in length that it's difficult to tell which one it has to be.

My only concern with a green is that this sounds like it's an exact replica of K7.

While I'd be thrilled, it'd be unprecedented if this were the case. As you've argued, a bank wouldn't fit, but a (^) just might?

I'm not sure how anyone expects to fit "straight" onto that first line, especially not Straight (^)

Both green and white fit a 5 character space, and Perform or Reveal are close enough in length that it's difficult to tell which one it has to be.

My only concern with a green is that this sounds like it's an exact replica of K7.

While I'd be thrilled, it'd be unprecedented if this were the case. As you've argued, a bank wouldn't fit, but a (^) just might?

The problem is that Imperial Boba, and TIE mk 2 have a much longer format to describe a bank. Echo and Lorrir have a shorter format but specifically call ot a speed and direction- they refer to specific templates, not a maneuver.

it wouldn't be an exact replica of K4 because it's an astro; not a scum only crew :P

Hmm... running comparisons with the formatting of other cards on the page...

swx37-layout.png

.When you receive a stress

token, you may discard this

.card to assign 1 focus or

.evade token to your ship.

. .After you perform a green. .

maneuver...

. . . . .a t...

White or green are both too long, compared to Cool Hand.

.When you receive a stress

token, you may discard this

.card to assign 1 focus or

.evade token to your ship.

. .After you reveal a red. .

maneuver, assign yourself

. . . . .a target lock.

formatting roughly fits, restriction is ugly.

Lets change this up:

.When you receive a stress

token, you may discard this

.card to assign 1 focus or

.evade token to your ship.

. .After you've revealed a. .

maneuver, you may perform

. . . . . .a target lock.

...best format fit. best mechanical effect.

I still dont like the phrasing of target locking, but there just isnt room in the last line for "Target lock action" or "a free target lock"

Edited by Rakaydos

there is no "free target lock"

k4 just says "...may acquire a target-lock"

After executing a green

maneuver you may acquire

a target-lock

only difference here is After you (execute etc.)

Edited by ficklegreendice

|.When you receive a stress|

|token, you may discard this|

| .card to assign 1 focus or .|

| .evade token to your ship. |

|. .After you've revealed a. .|

|maneuver, you may aquire|

|. . . . . . a target lock. . . . . . .|

vs

|.When you receive a stress|

|token, you may discard this|

| .card to assign 1 focus or .|

| .evade token to your ship. |

|. .After you execute a green. .|

|maneuver, you may aquire|

|. . . . . . a target lock. . . . . . .|

do you see the formatting issue? Center justify implies a blank space at the end of the first line, that just doesnt leave room for the word green.

Edited by Rakaydos

|.When you receive a stress|

|token, you may discard this|

| .card to assign 1 focus or .|

| .evade token to your ship. |

|. .After you've revealed a. .|

|maneuver, you may aquire|

|. . . . . . a target lock. . . . . . .|

vs

|.When you receive a stress|

|token, you may discard this|

| .card to assign 1 focus or .|

| .evade token to your ship. |

|. .After you execute a green. .|

|maneuver, you may aquire|

|. . . . . . a target lock. . . . . . .|

do you see the formatting issue? Center justify implies a blank space at the end of the first line, that just doesnt leave room for the word green.

then its a symbol. I bet its the straight arrow.

Not sure this will be a fix designed for the T-65, since there is only one included in the pack. Normal practice from FFG is to provide 2 (or more) copies of a fix card. Plus if it's too strong it will risk making the T-70 OP.

Not sure this will be a fix designed for the T-65, since there is only one included in the pack. Normal practice from FFG is to provide 2 (or more) copies of a fix card. Plus if it's too strong it will risk making the T-70 OP.

Not to mention make all other Astros redundant.

Not sure this will be a fix designed for the T-65, since there is only one included in the pack. Normal practice from FFG is to provide 2 (or more) copies of a fix card. Plus if it's too strong it will risk making the T-70 OP.

Not to mention make all other Astros redundant.

Not hard to do with most of the current crop of generic trashcans......

Not sure this will be a fix designed for the T-65, since there is only one included in the pack. Normal practice from FFG is to provide 2 (or more) copies of a fix card. Plus if it's too strong it will risk making the T-70 OP.

Not to mention make all other Astros redundant.

Only if they fill the same niche. The R2 and r5 are 1 point supershields for the xwing, R2d2, bb8, and r5p9are drpids you build a ship around, and several others have niches. But there just arnt any decent offensive astromechs.

Not sure this will be a fix designed for the T-65, since there is only one included in the pack. Normal practice from FFG is to provide 2 (or more) copies of a fix card. Plus if it's too strong it will risk making the T-70 OP.

it won't

the T-70 actually isn't that great of a base ship (it's actually worse than the T-65) so you'd have to really flex something out to risk it being OP (like BB-8 :D, something to really use Poe's boost + very solid offense & defense)

all the T-70 really boasts over the T-65 is boost (thrusters, baby!) and it doesn't have any pilot with reliably high PS outside of Poe to abuse it (unless you want blockers, but then why aren't you running A-wings?). As a secondary benefit, they also have a PS 4 with a native EPT (which, imo, could end up being quite decent if not potentially competitive)

in short, best you'd get out of an awesome TA is Red Vet with crackshot (which will be glorious if it's not terribly restrictive)

but largely, if TA is awesome then it's going to be more awesome on T-65s who can output the same damage for a far more reasonable asking price

Edited by ficklegreendice

Not sure this will be a fix designed for the T-65, since there is only one included in the pack. Normal practice from FFG is to provide 2 (or more) copies of a fix card. Plus if it's too strong it will risk making the T-70 OP.

Yet there is only one integrated astro card...

Not sure this will be a fix designed for the T-65, since there is only one included in the pack. Normal practice from FFG is to provide 2 (or more) copies of a fix card. Plus if it's too strong it will risk making the T-70 OP.

Yet there is only one integrated astro card...

Fix cards have historically shown up in medium blisters or bigger (Particuarly in Aces packs, which are card bonanzas). This is the first time the fix for one small-based ship has arrived in another small-based ship, where they don't run duplicate cards.

I honestly think there's a Rogue Squadron aces pack coming. With a black/orange T70 and a T65, with a new title or two and some more copies of IA and Targeting Astromech. Theoretically it will coincide with the release of the new movie. The theory being that the only named pilot we have so far is Poe Dameron. Once the movie is released and we get some names for the new pilots, those named pilots will be included in the new Aces pack so we can have ships with more imaginative names than Red Ace and Blue Ace.

There are two more named aces in the t-70 pack.

However I am certain the new movie will have no shortage of pilots they can use.

I honestly think there's a Rogue Squadron aces pack coming. With a black/orange T70 and a T65, with a new title or two and some more copies of IA and Targeting Astromech. Theoretically it will coincide with the release of the new movie. The theory being that the only named pilot we have so far is Poe Dameron. Once the movie is released and we get some names for the new pilots, those named pilots will be included in the new Aces pack so we can have ships with more imaginative names than Red Ace and Blue Ace.

I certainly hope you're right on this one.

I honestly think there's a Rogue Squadron aces pack coming. With a black/orange T70 and a T65, with a new title or two and some more copies of IA and Targeting Astromech. Theoretically it will coincide with the release of the new movie. The theory being that the only named pilot we have so far is Poe Dameron. Once the movie is released and we get some names for the new pilots, those named pilots will be included in the new Aces pack so we can have ships with more imaginative names than Red Ace and Blue Ace.

I'll believe the ship set, but I doubt the timing.

In the Scum & Villlany podcast, Alex stated they want to see how the Wave 8 Integrated Astromech shakes things up before they decide just how much the X-wing needs more help - and in what shape, exactly, that needs to be.

This would also give them time to see just where the T-70 sits in the meta as well, and likewise what help (or lack thereof) it requires.

So while an aces pack might be coming, it won't be as soon as we'd like. Hell, we haven't even got the card yet, so don't hold your breath for the Aces pack. ;)

Edited by Reiver