R5-X3

By Magnus Grendel, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Okay.

R5-X3 is an astromech with the following ability:

Before you reveal your maneuver, you may discard this card to ignore obstacles until the end of the round

Since it's 'end of the round', not just 'end of the activation phase', it clearly affects the combat phase too.

This means....what?

  • You will not take damage or other adverse affects from obstacles
  • You may perform actions even if your base or maneuver template clips an obstacle
  • You may perform attacks even if your bases clips an obstable

All those are fair enough and don't really need debating in my mind.

How about obstructed lines of fire?

  • Can an opponent claim a bonus defence die? He didn't use R5-X3, so he's not ignoring obstacles, and it's 'his' roll, but he's defending against your attack and you did.
  • Can you claim a bonus defence die? If you trigger R5-X3, nowhere does it say ignoring obstacles is then optional, even if the effect of the obstacle would be positive for you.

The fact is that one thing are "Obstacles", and another, different thing are "Obstructions", even if both relate to asteroids and other hazards.

R5-X3 allows you to ignore the rules for 'obstacles' which as you correctly guessed, deal with movement and overlapping.

However, it does not say anything about 'obstructions', thus, your attacks perform normally in that regard. Both and your opponent claim the bonus die in the attack is obstructed.

I am not so sure about the resolution proposed by Jehan.

Obstruction can be caused by several things. Mainly by obstacles, but also by a large ship with Tactical Jammer or by Huge ships.

If we check the rules for obstruction, we get:

An attack is obstructed if the attacker measures
range through an obstacle.

From this phrase I understant that it is the attacker who has to measure range (not the defender).

So, if the attacker is ignoring obstacles, you will ignore them to all effects, including obstruction. Thus, attacks innitiated by this ship cannot be obstructed by obstacles.

On the other hand, when this ship is defending, it is the attacker who measures range, and the attacker is not ignoring obstacles. Thus the attack is considered obstructed and the ship with R5-X3 will gain the defense die.

Upon Reading the new TFA manual, there's indeed a slight difference in that the new manual now clearly specifies that 'the attacker' is the one who measures (and checks for obstructions), whereas the old one said in general terms: 'When measuring range during combat' without specifying attacker or defender.

That slight difference can make dmborque's interpretation valid.

Upon Reading the new TFA manual, there's indeed a slight difference in that the new manual now clearly specifies that 'the attacker' is the one who measures (and checks for obstructions), whereas the old one said in general terms: 'When measuring range during combat' without specifying attacker or defender.

That slight difference can make dmborque's interpretation valid.

Also, you have to remember the precedent set by the Dash Rendar crew card. It seems to establish the attacker is the one who ignores the obstacles for obstruction if he has the ability to.

The fact is that one thing are "Obstacles", and another, different thing are "Obstructions", even if both relate to asteroids and other hazards.

R5-X3 allows you to ignore the rules for 'obstacles' which as you correctly guessed, deal with movement and overlapping.

However, it does not say anything about 'obstructions', thus, your attacks perform normally in that regard. Both and your opponent claim the bonus die in the attack is obstructed.

"Obstructions" are not a thing in the rules. There are only obstacles; if an attack is made through an obstacle, the attack is obstructed.

So, without any details in the FAQ, I would have to take this card at face value and ignore obstacles for all aspects of the entire round:

1) When you execute a maneuver - meaning you can move through or overlap an obstacle and not lose an action, have to roll a damage die, or receive stress.

2) When you perform an action - meaning you can boost or barrel roll through or overlapping an obstacle.

3) During Combat - you measure range and ignore the fact that there is an obstacle there. Thus the attack is not obstructed and no additional die is rolled.

Until FFG rules otherwise, this is how I will consider it.

Upon Reading the new TFA manual, there's indeed a slight difference in that the new manual now clearly specifies that 'the attacker' is the one who measures (and checks for obstructions), whereas the old one said in general terms: 'When measuring range during combat' without specifying attacker or defender.

That slight difference can make dmborque's interpretation valid.

Also, you have to remember the precedent set by the Dash Rendar crew card. It seems to establish the attacker is the one who ignores the obstacles for obstruction if he has the ability to.

Yeah, but in that case, the card refers specifically to 'obstructions'. Which may led to further differentiation between the mechanics.

Anyway, it seems that the intention is for the droid enabling the attacker to ignore obstacles for all purposes, and in any instances, during the round.

Upon Reading the new TFA manual, there's indeed a slight difference in that the new manual now clearly specifies that 'the attacker' is the one who measures (and checks for obstructions), whereas the old one said in general terms: 'When measuring range during combat' without specifying attacker or defender.

That slight difference can make dmborque's interpretation valid.

Also, you have to remember the precedent set by the Dash Rendar crew card. It seems to establish the attacker is the one who ignores the obstacles for obstruction if he has the ability to.

Yeah, but in that case, the card refers specifically to 'obstructions'. Which may led to further differentiation between the mechanics.

Anyway, it seems that the intention is for the droid enabling the attacker to ignore obstacles for all purposes, and in any instances, during the round.

Good point.

The Dash Rendar Crew card states that "You may perform attacks while overlapping an obstacle. Your attacks cannot be obstructed."

This means that you can fire if you land on an asteroid, can shoot through obstacles, and if someone is using the Tactical Jammer modification - it does not obstruct your attack.

R5-X3 ignores "Obstacles" for all intents, but would not cancel use of the Tactical Jammer obstructing your attack.