So the AH minis have been scrapped so to speak , whats all your thoughts? I thought they were a good idea but a bit pricey , maybe adding in some alternate stories for each or some unique items , spells , ect may justify the costs. Anyway post thoughts here if ya want

Kinda had to roll on the floor laughing after I read the piece. The first pair would have included a perfect mini for my character for Call of Cthulhu rpg.

It's also funny that they should cancel the minies after a few odd comments. I mean look at the discussion about the third edition of Warhammer RPG.

I'm pleased that it's cancelled in theory, but only if they replace it with something that is affordable. Personally, I'd love to buy unpainted plastic figurines. Honestly, they were putting out a product that would cost several hundred dollars. How many of even the most fanatical Arkhamaniacs would be willing to buy that sort of thing? We're not Warhammer fans after all.

I'm a little sad (even though I had no real plans to buy them), but on the other hand, I'm glad they canceled them as early as they did, before they committed too much and lost too much money.

I just realized that I pull investigator tokens out of the cup to randomly them, which means that miniatures would effectively be a waste of money and space. Unless I was going to make an Arkham collage, which I wouldn't

Just buy a few sets of their Cthulhu miniatres and paint them different colors, give one a broad purple hat so she can be Jenny, Give one a cigarette and a flamethrower, etc.

NOW they can get to work on what really matters: a cross-expansion expansion...? A revision of Daisy and Patrice?

I don't imagine they are coming back in any form. I think their theory was high quality, pre-painted minis that wouldn't break the bank. That was apparently shot down by too many people.

I know that ultimately they would have cost a lot- just like buying all of the AH expansions in one shot would cost a lot. But a monthly budget of $13 would have been fine.

If you want minis, buy CoC RPG minis and paint them yourself.

I'm bummed. I was really looking forward to these.

sepayne7l said:

Yet you would not look forward to future version of the game having plastic minis like Descent, Runebound, Talisman and a gazillion other FFG games?

You not be interested if they sold upgrade packs for each expansion that had all these minis like they did for Talisman 4th edition? (That was like $20 for all the core minis and around the same number needed for core Arkam)? Yet you were willing to shell out 6x as much for pre-painted figs? You even own Runebound and Descent so you know this is true. A majority of FFG's customers do not like the Games Workshop model of business. A majority of the customers do not want to buy pewter minis for Decent or pre-painted minis for Arkham. They want minis standard in these games and at as low a price-point as possible!

FFG can easily add minis to this game. It's almost the exact number as in Talisman, and Talisman already has higher-quality components. Plastic money, counters, and a bigger board.

They already have the molds made. They should make upgrade packs like for Talisman and then in future editions of the game have the unpainted, plastic, investigator-minis standard.

Frog said:

I just have to agree to your post. They are able to make it and I hope they make packs as from per box. And sell them for about the same as Talisman upgrade. Would be a must buy if they show up.

But as usual time will tell.

Bjerlk

kind of glad that they did. Seemed like not to many people had plans to buy them, so I'm glad FF is saving their time and their money so they can design something else.

Avi_dreader said:

I've got a chaos space marine army... I think it's safe to say that there are quite a few gamers out there who enjoy both. About these mini's though, i mean cmon, would it be that hard to go out and find some miniatures that you could paint yourself to look reasonably like an investigator or monster, if you really needed that? There are a LOT of miniatures games out there... I think FFG should go all out and make a HeroClixish Arkham game. Like CthulhuClix or NyarlathoClix. Now THAT would be worth the money right? RIGHT?!?!?

sepayne7l said:

There's a website that has all the expansions for only $15 each.

Well, I hope this is a rethink and they release the minis differently, as I envisioned them when I first heard about them; 16 gray minis in a blister for the base game, 8 the same way for Dunwich, 8 the same way for Kingsport, 16 the same way for Innsmouth.

Tibs said:

Heh... Or you could just shuffle the investigator cards and draw them with your eyes closed.

Bjerlk said:

Interested, sure. As interested, no. I love Runbound, Descent and many (well, most) of FFGs games. But I'm not a painter and pre-painted figs look much better to me than generic gray. Like the Descent lieutenenants, these were intended to be more of a luxury item, not a necessity. To me the cost is not that high per month, so it was not going to break the budget. The Tannhauser expansions were about $12 and they contain 1 painted figure, a small sheet of tokens and a small booklet. The Wings of War minis are about $10 and you get one paitned plane and a stand. The AH figs were not entirely out of line.

To me I never saw this as being a GW kind of move. I can only imagine how much GW would charge for some prepainted 40k minis. But hey, if they give me 2 pre-painted Necron soldiers for $13 then I'm playing.

Yeah, I'm still bummed.

i think its a shame in a way, but to complement this game i think they shouldnt be plastic, or if they are they should be of a very high quality non pre painted, or again if they do come pre paint then a very very high quality. they also need to come in box sets, complete sets for each game/expansion.

but as said their are enough minis out there to do your own.

This is good news. Now I think there is a good chance each box expansion will be given an upgrade including the minis for those boxes, plus new cards relevant to the expansion. If so, I am very happy. People who want them may still get them, just in a better deal. And in the end it wont leave FFG out of pocket, as I fear 2packs would have.

dj2.0 said:

If FFG makes the miniatures part of an expansion (all 48 plus howmany ever are in the said expansion), how much would the price of the expansion skyrocket? Or what if, to keep the price same as the others, there's not much cards and other good bitz inside?

I have to hand it to FFG for taknig into consideration the thoughts, ideas, and opinions of those individuals from whom they receive the most feedback...us. Having said that, they probably should have talked to us before launching the AH dice idea, as Chessex has set into production two orders, comprising over 75 players and 2,500+ dice.

The Professor

Bjerlk said:

Agree!

Knuckles Eki said:

I could see them marketing 6 boxes of 8, or 3 of 16 or 1 of 48. I can see that being bundled with other stuff, and without. Without, I think theyll sell less, with new PSs, epic battle cards, encounter cards, and other stuff to round off the boxes, theyll sell like hot cakes...

I'm glad they cancelled. So glad. It was a marketing move imo, a lot of concerns, a lot of time, for really nothing. I'm a FFG game lover, not a useless-tiny-figures-lover-geek. Furthermore, I found them awful. How could you pretend sell a Jenny bending like that ?! that's junk. I'd love to have a boardgame with pretty figures for invests and monsters on it, obviously, that'd be great. But this might be ever far from reality so I don't care. I'm so amazed a wealthy (I suppose) company like FFG listens so much to our concerns, and acts depending on that. This is so rare. This is why I love this company, love their way of creating games, and this is why I'll keep on buying their games and only their. Games on which they are now going to spend even more time, since they won't be wasting it on useless figures Na

I think that we, as fans, need to realize just how much weight we carry with FFG. FFG isn't some faceless megacorp out to make a fast buck. They read (and sometimes respond) in these very forums. They try to make the products we want, and to do so at a high level of quality. People in this forum talked about how cool it would be to have AH minis, and FFG set about making them. People in this forum then said it was too expensive, or the packaging wasn't that great, and FFG canceled them. FFG is trying to support US. Unfortunately it would seem you can't please everybody, especially not where the almighty dollar is concerned.

Maybe I'm just getting too old and turning into a crazy coot, but it seems to me every time FFG makes a new product specifically in response to fans' desires, all the cries of "that would be awesome!" suddenly turn to "why so expensive?" when people see how much it would actually cost to make their dreams come true.

I think canceling this product line was probably the right call in the long run. I think the only really feasible way to bring minis into AH would be with a new edition of the game, but that would have to wait until there were enough other reasons for a new edition as I doubt very many people would pony up just for minis.

Another option might be to offer the minis as a webstore exclusive, each sold separately. I'm sure that idea would have its share of dissenters, but it would allow people who want the whole set to buy the whole set and people who only want some to only buy the ones they want. It would also allow FFG to deliver the product with a minimum amount of packaging. The only real downside would be the added shipping costs (especially to the overseas fanbase), which could be mitigated by ordering a lot of minis at once.

Most (all ? ) FFG boardgames have plastic unpainted minis in them, so it would be nice to get some eventually. I look at the quality of the Runewars minis, and it seems we could get great stuff.

The proposed packaging and price (due to the paint), was a bit inappropriate I think, so scrapping the release was a good move. It's indeed impressive that FFG listens to the fans so much.

I'm a FFG newb for the most part. Having just played Talisman a few nights ago - I would prefer to have the minis. Maybe they could get around to selling unpainted minis in the same plastic they used for Talisman's?

I would have bought them all. I would also have bitched and moaned about the release schedule, the choices of pairs, etc.

The biggest problem with these minis is that you only need one. No one needs four Michael McGlens, so any given customer has a very limited buying requirement. And, if you want all the figures, they would have to all be available for new purchasers of the game in perpetuity. I can see this project creeping into the red and staying there fairly quickly.

The good side, I liked that they were pretty much the same height as the cardboard standees. I like that they were prepainted. I like the added detail they would give the game.

Now, the possible. The molds (some at least) are most likely made. Adding in a new personal story, new mythos or location card, some other new card that would be specific to that investigator and packaging, as others have said, in blister packs of 8, unpainted, would probably have these things flying off the shelves. It's Arkham Horror - we are already fans of lots of cards and fiddly bits. Give us more and we will be happy.

And now to the improbable. A box, and within the box, a large number of pre-printed, die cut sheets and instructions. Assemble all the bits and pieces and you have card and counter stands and drawers. If any of you have seen my custom case thread, you know what I mean. So far, the two card stands and two drawers I've built hold 16 small decks, 12 large decks and all the counters and they take up as much space as one expansion board. (Pics to come) I made mine out of foamcore but it could easily translate to the card that is used for all the other AH pieces.

And now someone else can have the soapbox.

Avi_dreader said:

Speak for yourself...I have a WFB Warriors of Chaos army.

I don't have any real objection to the idea of AH miniatures, but the ones on offer were a) not very good quality, and b) overpriced and overpackaged. It's a bit peculiar that they got as far as previewing the minis and then scrapped them, though.

Meh... it's probably for the best. Would anyone really have been satisfied with just investigator miniatures? Presumably the next step would have been plastic monsters, each with a little slot in the base for the monster marker. And pretty soon you need a Descent-sized box. Not to mention the fact that it would be the first type of AH game content that you couldn't recreate/expand with Strange Eons. Unless the next release of SE has support for incredibly advanced 3D printers.