The merry go round is making the game boring. The best way to fix this is allow obstacles to be placed anywhere on the board as long as they are not within 1 of each other. Even just 1 per player would be helpful.

Will that help get rid of the merry go round battle? That should help promote Flying squadrons and piloting.

That way you could put one in the path of the merry go round as a tactic.

I wouldn't mind Asteroids being allowed to be placed next to the sides of the play area.

But I don't think they should be placeble in the player's deployment zones.

have you tried this?

How about placing obstacles AFTER ships where placed?

I agree that placement of obstacles can get stale, but I don't see the 'merry-go-round' very often. What really gets only is the clear lanes on the side edges that are almost always used for the initial approach.

I wouldn't mind Asteroids being allowed to be placed next to the sides, and only limited to range 1 of each other instead of 2.

The current rules are Range 2 from an edge, but only Range 1 from another obstacle.

Actually! Played in a tournament a week ago where they allowed it was actually very helpful to stopping the madness of the Merry go round!

The rules were anywhere on the table, but no asteroid could be closer than 2 from any other and not in either players deployment zones

Definitely changed the games and made them less merry go round.

No.

The outside causeways insure a fair start for all list types. Regardless, there is no "merry-go-round" problem. The game is over in 75 minutes. Action must happen in a timely fashion. Two lists flying right at each other, and this being the only way to play, sounds boring to me.

Nah, what you do is put 18 asteroids and 9 debris clouds on the field at once.

The current rules are Range 2 from an edge, but only Range 1 from another obstacle.

Thank you, fixed the post.

What you have is a player problem, not a problem with Asteroid placement.

Playing with 2D6 obstacles would be fun.

I would like to see some Ion Clouds, that even Dash cannot avoid.

1 killed ship = 1 new debris token. would be good too.

Add some prox mines to the mix.

Or 1 hull 4 agi firepower 2 range 2 space mines?

Ok you do that. I'll run a swarm, I'll place my 3 on the side edge were no one will be around them, ever. Then I can batter you in a no objects map where all we do is roll dice cause we don't have to worry about silly things as asteroids. Hell I'll even take the newest ones so I can uber tiny ones.

See where this gets you?

Or 1 hull 4 agi firepower 2 range 2 space mines?

Space mines that could equip turret upgrades?

No. They'd be PWT. Maybe dropped from a bomb slot.

Edit: Double post

1 killed ship = 1 new debris token. would be good too.

I think the debris clouds in this game are meant to represent the remains of much larger ships.

The debris from a destroyed starfighter doesn't pose much threat to another starfighter.

Or 1 hull 4 agi firepower 2 range 2 space mines?

Space Mines are 1 Attack, 0 Agility, 1 Hull, 0 Shield with no movement and a PWT.

While I agree that there is no problem with the astroid placement rules, there could be an updated version to keep things interesting. I have had no problems with other player regarding the merry go round technique, so I don't have any quarrels there. However, I have see the merry go round and it's boring to watch and not really a viable option in tournaments because of the time limit (thank goodness).

I do have a couple of suggestion to open up the "random" factor of debris/ asteroids/ obstacles.

1) I would like to see Huge ships as obstacles in tournament play. It's legal in casual play and some TO's will let them on the board. The rules stating that a Huge Ship can replace 3 asteroids and are placed first (before other asteroids or debris). I've played this a few times and it's AMAZING! I love swarms and mini swarms and it made maneuvers and formation flying so much harder, but in a good way. Opening up the option means some people will take advantage of the new rule and others wont. This is great! I hate a stale play style, so coming to a tournament will be very different every time.

2) Open Asteroid/ Debris/ Obstacle placement to range 1 of any edge and increase possible asteroids/ debris/ obstacles to 8. This will keep a similar play feel to the game.

3) Those "tiny" asteroids in the Force Awakens starter pack? They should be able to be place within range 1 of an other tiny asteroid. I like the idea of "creating" space lanes or "blocking" space lanes like the way FFG illustrates on the back of the core sets.

These three suggestions open up a world of new play styles. Try them out in your games! It's a lot of fun!!!

1 killed ship = 1 new debris token. would be good too.

I think the debris clouds in this game are meant to represent the remains of much larger ships.

The debris from a destroyed starfighter doesn't pose much threat to another starfighter.

Really? Which is why the debris field tokens look like starfighter bits?

Or 1 hull 4 agi firepower 2 range 2 space mines?

Space Mines are 1 Attack, 0 Agility, 1 Hull, 0 Shield with no movement and a PWT.

Amount of guns does not equate firepower.

There I said it and meant it this time.

And also no they aren't as at this point unless it's in one of the raider missions (not read yet) or core rulebook missions (look i'm busy, not read yet either). Then they are purely hypothetical.

Unless of course they are in one of the special missions, in which case my mistake - i've just not read them yet.

Even then, as a hypothetical upgrade as an ordnance dropped mine, it could have 7 attack dice, as it doesn't need to be like a mission token. Mission tokens do whatever they do in the mission...

Actually, I take it back. Looking at the debris tokens themselves, it's obvious that they are mostly starfighter remains.

How about placing obstacles AFTER ships where placed?

That would throw off the part where players get to choose which side they want to deploy on after putting out obstacles.