The actual destruction of a star fleet battle

By Lord Ashram, in Star Wars: Armada

I am sure others have thought about this.

The sheer destruction of a star fleet battle would be just epic and ugly. Not just the amount of debris, but Ive always thought there would be a LOT of human bodies floating around, having been sucked into the void through massive rents in the exterior of ships...

Not a lot of fire, though, except where oxygen from within the ship is rushing out.

I am sure others have thought about this.

The sheer destruction of a star fleet battle would be just epic and ugly. Not just the amount of debris, but Ive always thought there would be a LOT of human bodies floating around, having been sucked into the void through massive rents in the exterior of ships...

Not a lot of fire, though, except where oxygen from within the ship is rushing out.

Yeah and the loss of life on a single ship is quite insane. In X-wing you might lose a few good pilots but even a small ship like the nebulon have around a minimum crew of 300 and should be around almost a 1000 according to wookipedia.

That's not a small loss when just a single ship goes down.

Read the Honor Harrington books, if you have not, the entire series captures this well. From a single Destroyer (think WW2 size) sized ship and just its crew; to entire fleet engagements where hundreds of "Ships of the Wall" (again, think WW2 big Battleships) and tens of thousands of crew are destroyed in droves. Its the most phenomenal "realistic" (yes, I understand the absurdity of that word given the context of the discussion) take on space combat and warfare that I have ever read. It kinda put a damper on the Star Wars space battles for me.

TL/DR: Read Honor Harrington, you are missing out!

Weber in the Honor Harrington definitely does space battles brilliantly, i agree. He really goes into detail about how damage would work and so on. Great series, highly recommended for anybody that liks military sci-fi.

Although, i will say it's NOTHING like Star Wars combat, which is very cinematic and not even vaguely realistic or interested in little things like physics :D

Yeah the smallest ship's compliment possible in the current ships is CR90, and that's probably close to 95 and a rebel fleet could easily field 3 of those even before the point cap goes up after wave 2 drops.

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Nice to see encroachments upon the throne of grimdark being put back into their place.

All rebel ships use way less personal than imperial ships. Interesting thought. Compare the numbers of the MC80 winged Liberty to an ISD 1 or 2.

Yeah, you kinda don't think about it too much but like, Luke Skywalker has killed a LOT of people. Hundreds of thousands. More than a million. Like, personally in an "I pulled the trigger" kind of way, not in the "my orders resulted in lots of deaths" way ala Hitler or Stalin.

Hell, from the Imperial point of view he's an unspeakable monster.

Yeah, you kinda don't think about it too much but like, Luke Skywalker has killed a LOT of people. Hundreds of thousands. More than a million. Like, personally in an "I pulled the trigger" kind of way, not in the "my orders resulted in lots of deaths" way ala Hitler or Stalin.

Hell, from the Imperial point of view he's an unspeakable monster.

Of course, in doing so prevented billions and billions of other deaths. What was Alderaan's population anyway? How about the Rebel base on Yavin, or where ever the Death Star would have struck next. It all comes down to being willing to take a life to save even more.

Yeah, you kinda don't think about it too much but like, Luke Skywalker has killed a LOT of people. Hundreds of thousands. More than a million. Like, personally in an "I pulled the trigger" kind of way, not in the "my orders resulted in lots of deaths" way ala Hitler or Stalin.

Hell, from the Imperial point of view he's an unspeakable monster.

Of course, in doing so prevented billions and billions of other deaths. What was Alderaan's population anyway? How about the Rebel base on Yavin, or where ever the Death Star would have struck next. It all comes down to being willing to take a life to save even more.

Grand Moff Tarkin blew up Alderaan, full of civilians (actually Australians, because like Australia, it is a beautiful place and put a restriction on guns to prevent mass shootings from occurring because they understood guns kill people(seriously, at first i though Alderaan was just a bunch of hippes on a planet, but it seems more like Australia than woodstock now)) and people say Luke is the monster for killing the station that committed that?

"He just walked into the airport and just started shooting everybody!"

"Yeah, well, that doesn't mean you can go and kill someone."

"But I stopped a massacre... shouldn't I be a hero?"

"Nope. Its the chair for you."

Edit: okay wow rereading that it is dark, but then again this is kind of a dark subject... Um, imagine it being told in one of "those" cartoons like southpark or family guy, not real life. That was the intent.

They died to give us epic space battles with plastic toys. Long may their memory last.

Well, I doubt the Empire bothers with this, but seems like it would be common to ignore dying or disabled ships. Like in naval battles, a sinking ship is ignored until teams can be sent to help/capture them, you don't blow it sky high so that no one gets out alive. Granted, with no atmosphere comes death, but many crew members should have breathers/suits with them during battles generally right? Of course, the Empire would probably shoot "sinking" ships just to make a point/kill dirty rebels.

Well, I doubt the Empire bothers with this, but seems like it would be common to ignore dying or disabled ships. Like in naval battles, a sinking ship is ignored until teams can be sent to help/capture them, you don't blow it sky high so that no one gets out alive. Granted, with no atmosphere comes death, but many crew members should have breathers/suits with them during battles generally right? Of course, the Empire would probably shoot "sinking" ships just to make a point/kill dirty rebels.

Nononono! they capture all the rebels they can and interrogate them all, brainwash some to be unwitting double agents, execute a few on the holovids to raise moral, and try to get them to rat out friends.

Considering this game is about the large ships, im surprised there isnt any rules for adding debris when a ship is destroyed. Corvettes i could see not bothering with, but VSD/ISD are so large you'd expect SOMETHING to stick around and be annoying for remaining ships.

Would be an interesting addition. Buy a pack of debris for small, medium, and large ships and when they die place the appropriate debris under their last position. Could easily cause a minefield effect for ships that dive down other ships throats and failed to get out

Considering this game is about the large ships, im surprised there isnt any rules for adding debris when a ship is destroyed. Corvettes i could see not bothering with, but VSD/ISD are so large you'd expect SOMETHING to stick around and be annoying for remaining ships.

Would be an interesting addition. Buy a pack of debris for small, medium, and large ships and when they die place the appropriate debris under their last position. Could easily cause a minefield effect for ships that dive down other ships throats and failed to get out

Even cooler if the debris kept drifting forward into the enemy!

Considering this game is about the large ships, im surprised there isnt any rules for adding debris when a ship is destroyed. Corvettes i could see not bothering with, but VSD/ISD are so large you'd expect SOMETHING to stick around and be annoying for remaining ships.

Would be an interesting addition. Buy a pack of debris for small, medium, and large ships and when they die place the appropriate debris under their last position. Could easily cause a minefield effect for ships that dive down other ships throats and failed to get out

Someone has already created this. I saw it on Amazon a while ago. They look cool, but I don't play enough to justify the price tag.

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Here are mine. And yes, that would look AMAZING, although it wouldn't be the cheapest.