You take guri with stealth device and sensor jammer six dice at range three and able to alter one dice it'll be hard to pick her off before she gets up close and personal.

You take guri with stealth device and sensor jammer six dice at range three and able to alter one dice it'll be hard to pick her off before she gets up close and personal.

why!?!?!?!

NEVER TRUST GREEN DICE

(predator guri with virago + jammies and thrusters= 40 points of solid, though)

Guri wants to get close fast so the decloak move lets her get into range 1 where she cant be shot at all that little bit faster.

Guri wants to get close fast so the decloak move lets her get into range 1 where she cant be shot at all that little bit faster.

you'll have other TLTs to worry about, so no worries (you'll get your worth out of thrusters; Stealth Device would likely just crap out on the first range 1 Y-wing primary )

Guri wants to get close fast so the decloak move lets her get into range 1 where she cant be shot at all that little bit faster.

you'll have other TLTs to worry about, so no worries (you'll get your worth out of thrusters; Stealth Device would likely just crap out on the first range 1 Y-wing primary )

I suppose it depends on how the tlt's are flying in close formation or spread out.

So now we need an upgrade or pilot that cancels damage cards that are dealt from special cancelization instead of from dice.

Xizor, Sensor Jammer, Autothrusters, someone to fob the rare point of damage onto.

Practically immune to TLTs.

Xizors ability doesn't work against TLTs, better of doing Guri.

It does beg the question WHY Xizor's ability doesn't work against TLT's, though.

"When defending a ship at Range 1 may suffer one uncancelled hit or crit instead of you."

So if there's only one uncancelled hit from a TLT left, you SHOULD be able to pass it off to a friendly ship, which then takes the damage from the TLT attack instead of Xizor.

Not arguing that it doesn't work, just wondering why it doesn't work.

It does work!

Where the heck is this coming from?

Alex and Paul just talked about it in recent videos.

Sounds like forum FUBAR to just say that TLT all of a sudden just kills Z-Man.

Nopes...

Xizor, Sensor Jammer, Autothrusters, someone to fob the rare point of damage onto.

Practically immune to TLTs.

Xizors ability doesn't work against TLTs, better of doing Guri.

It does beg the question WHY Xizor's ability doesn't work against TLT's, though.

"When defending a ship at Range 1 may suffer one uncancelled hit or crit instead of you."

So if there's only one uncancelled hit from a TLT left, you SHOULD be able to pass it off to a friendly ship, which then takes the damage from the TLT attack instead of Xizor.

Not arguing that it doesn't work, just wondering why it doesn't work.

Honestly, it is just a ruling to prevent those really weird situations. In theory it works, but does nothing but add more damage that you take. Just easier this way.

So in short, because they said so.

So now we need an upgrade or pilot that cancels damage cards that are dealt from special cancelization instead of from dice.

not really, cancel the TLT from hitting & you cancel the face-down damage

Xizor, Sensor Jammer, Autothrusters, someone to fob the rare point of damage onto.

Practically immune to TLTs.

Xizors ability doesn't work against TLTs, better of doing Guri.

It does beg the question WHY Xizor's ability doesn't work against TLT's, though.

"When defending a ship at Range 1 may suffer one uncancelled hit or crit instead of you."

So if there's only one uncancelled hit from a TLT left, you SHOULD be able to pass it off to a friendly ship, which then takes the damage from the TLT attack instead of Xizor.

Not arguing that it doesn't work, just wondering why it doesn't work.

It does work!

Where the heck is this coming from?

Alex and Paul just talked about it in recent videos.

Sounds like forum FUBAR to just say that TLT all of a sudden just kills Z-Man.

Nopes...

it doesn't work

Ze*-man pawns off an uncancelled die result

TLT cancels all dice if it hits (so if hits > opponent's evades after all mods) and deals 1 damage (note not a hit result).

It is just forum FUBAR (though, at this point with all the overhype TLT is getting, really more of a SNAFU) to suggest that Ze*-man just rolls over when he has 3 agility and thrusters, though

So now we need an upgrade or pilot that cancels damage cards that are dealt from special cancelization instead of from dice.

not really, cancel the TLT from hitting & you cancel the face-down damage

Xizor, Sensor Jammer, Autothrusters, someone to fob the rare point of damage onto.

Practically immune to TLTs.

Xizors ability doesn't work against TLTs, better of doing Guri.

It does beg the question WHY Xizor's ability doesn't work against TLT's, though.

"When defending a ship at Range 1 may suffer one uncancelled hit or crit instead of you."

So if there's only one uncancelled hit from a TLT left, you SHOULD be able to pass it off to a friendly ship, which then takes the damage from the TLT attack instead of Xizor.

Not arguing that it doesn't work, just wondering why it doesn't work.

It does work!

Where the heck is this coming from?

Alex and Paul just talked about it in recent videos.

Sounds like forum FUBAR to just say that TLT all of a sudden just kills Z-Man.

Nopes...

it doesn't work

Ze*-man pawns off an uncancelled die result

TLT cancels all dice if it hits (so if hits > opponent's evades after all mods) and deals 1 damage (note not a hit result).

It is just forum FUBAR (though, at this point with all the overhype TLT is getting, really more of a SNAFU) to suggest that Ze*-man just rolls over when he has 3 agility and thrusters, though

So your saying TLT gives a auto hit period? I do not read it that way. If you dodge three hits there can be no hit in my understanding. Rolling three dice twice is the big bonus of TLT, but it does not read as two auto hits.

You still have to hit me at least once with these double doom three red dice. I do see the point that Z-Mann would take the hit and not be able to pass it on... now, so that is cleared up. But what Alex and Paul meant was that getting a hit in the first place is not so easy... when firing at super dodgy ships, okay I got it now.

Thanks! BTW the comments I mention came from the recent S&V Interview and the Nova Open event video coverage.

no no, here's what I mean

Xizor versus normal 3-dice:

HitHitHit versus EvadeEvade -blank- = 1 uncancelled Hit result --> Xizor can pawn off that one Hit and take 0 damage

Xizor versus TLT 3-dice:

HitHitHit versus EvadeEvade -blank- = 1 uncancelled Hit result --> TLT: "the defender suffers one damage. Then, cancel all dice results"

Xizor cannot pawn off one damage because it is not a die result

That's all

3 greens + thrusters != auto-hit by TLT

just don't use Xizor's ability against them (it's cheating; not the good scummy kind either )

do, however, use it at range 1

no no, here's what I mean

Xizor versus normal 3-dice:

HitHitHit versus EvadeEvade -blank- = 1 uncancelled Hit result --> Xizor can pawn off that one Hit and take 0 damage

Xizor versus TLT 3-dice:

HitHitHit versus EvadeEvade -blank- = 1 uncancelled Hit result --> TLT: "the defender suffers one damage. Then, cancel all dice results"

Xizor cannot pawn off one damage because it is not a die result

Yup I got it now... Alex & Paul confused me for a lil bits.

you know what else isn't auto-hit by TLTs?

******* shuttles and B-wings

not ******* kidding

had a two games in the same tournament where I couldn't land 50% of TLTs against a B and then a shuttle, because it's a 50/50 toss up between HIT or HITHIT on unmodified dice and then the opponent's green dice decide to be real ******* generous

TLTs are lovely, but they are just as prone to miserable dice failure as anything else in the game. The only difference is that if a TLT gets some stupid dumb luck on their side, they won't one-shot you like stupid PWT would

Think of TLT as an AC turret... Sorta. AC guarantees two hit results but doesn't gaurantee damage. TLT allows two attacks but only gives damage if those attacks hit, one per attack, but it's a turret. Neither is autohit, but they do tend to reduce the randomness somewhat.

Well three naked dice give you 1.5 hits so it's a little worse than AC but it makes the defender roll twice so that's a greater chance for green dice to betray you.

Main advantage is the tlt has that 360 fire arc.

I don't know why I just realized it, but: TLT and Marksmanship seem like a perfect pairing.

Unfortunately, only 2 pilots seem to be able to take it. Hm.

Y wings don't get alot of ept slots.

I don't know why I just realized it, but: TLT and Marksmanship seem like a perfect pairing.

Unfortunately, only 2 pilots seem to be able to take it. Hm.

Predator gives you 8 dice and if the defender is skill 2 or less you get ten dice.

Bound to land them two damages.

I don't know why I just realized it, but: TLT and Marksmanship seem like a perfect pairing.

Unfortunately, only 2 pilots seem to be able to take it. Hm.

Predator gives you 8 dice and if the defender is skill 2 or less you get ten dice.

Bound to land them two damages.

But Horton has almost-predator built in - so give him R2-D6 and Marskmanship and he'll struggle NOT to roll 3 hits every time.

Expensive

Prone to being focused to oblivion

But reliable

I don't know why I just realized it, but: TLT and Marksmanship seem like a perfect pairing.

Unfortunately, only 2 pilots seem to be able to take it. Hm.

Predator gives you 8 dice and if the defender is skill 2 or less you get ten dice.

Bound to land them two damages.

But Horton has almost-predator built in - so give him R2-D6 and Marskmanship and he'll struggle NOT to roll 3 hits every time.

Expensive

Prone to being focused to oblivion

But reliable

DOOM... DOOM... DOOM!

I've been having a lot of fun with Redline+Vessery (+dark curse). Turns out TLT spam lists don't like it when they remove a ship before they get to fire.

I don't know why I just realized it, but: TLT and Marksmanship seem like a perfect pairing.

Unfortunately, only 2 pilots seem to be able to take it. Hm.

I really like Poe with shield for focus bot as well and autothursters vs TLT.

With a focus token and out of arc Poe is 80% to get two evades (i.e. anything but double eye or double blank). A lone wolf effect to reroll a blank makes it even higher.

Unmodified TLT is only 12.5% to get 3 hits.

Kavil with predator and TLT I hate seeing though as the extra dice and the reroll means he hits most of the time

I don't know why I just realized it, but: TLT and Marksmanship seem like a perfect pairing.

Unfortunately, only 2 pilots seem to be able to take it. Hm.

8 pilots can take it, though not all of them are "worth it"

The use of R2D6 on rebel Y inluded in that number?