I hate to say this, but take a look at Rebels for this.

There's a bonafied jedi in that and they're still stealing stuff from the empire and selling it to arms dealers and stuff.

The "I own nothing" type jedi were back in the day when jedi were a "sect" with influence and holdings. Where their members didn't have to go starving and alwaysh ad access to ships and anything else they could need.

A force sensetive (or jedi, if you will) in EotE will have to get money for themselves. They'll have to do shady things.

But they don't have to do evil things.

That's the difference.

Stealing from a corrupt and evil organization to sell to someone in need (at a greatly discounted price, of course) is not exactly a bad thing to do.

And since they're stealing the stuff, it's all 100% profit. So it doesn't matter if they sell it cheap.

They aren't sitting on a million credits in Rebels....

I think that was part of his point, hence the "greatly discounted" line. You're stealing from the Empire/crime syndicates and giving it cheaply to those in need for whatever meager credits you can get for gas and food. As the GM, I'd always have whatever those poor refugees offer be just enough cash to cover expenses, and maybe partially paid in barter goods that the PCs then have to go sell in the NEXT system over, and...well, you get the idea.

I don't really see anywhere that he said they should have a million credits, just that they should be allowed to have the means (a ship, some supplies) to go out and earn their small income stream. In fact, I'm really unsure where the disagreement is if you both agree that Rebels is a good model for Jedi not being completely poor, just MOSTLY poor.

Well, they could just sell stolen imperial weapons to the rebels. They have funds.

Sure, they won't become millionairs, but they'd get more than giving to starving refugees.

OR, they could actually sell the stolen stuff to independent systems, shady corporations or even criminals.

Well, they could just sell stolen imperial weapons to the rebels. They have funds.

Not much, not in the least because the Rebels tend to give resources to starving refugees.

It's part of why the Rebellion doesn't hire mercenaries in general, they can't really afford to pay them. Only the mercs who are willing to miss a few paychecks in exchange for a clear conscience stick around.

OR, they could actually sell the stolen stuff to independent systems, shady corporations or even criminals.

At which point, if they're making a conscious choice to do this over selling to the Rebellion, I'd agree with 2P51's assessment that they are no (longer) Jedi.

Well, they could just sell stolen imperial weapons to the rebels. They have funds.

Not much, not in the least because the Rebels tend to give resources to starving refugees.

It's part of why the Rebellion doesn't hire mercenaries in general, they can't really afford to pay them. Only the mercs who are willing to miss a few paychecks in exchange for a clear conscience stick around.

OR, they could actually sell the stolen stuff to independent systems, shady corporations or even criminals.

At which point, if they're making a conscious choice to do this over selling to the Rebellion, I'd agree with 2P51's assessment that they are no (longer) Jedi.

There are several instances where the Rebels paid significant sums to mercenaries. Case in point, Han got his reward in hard cash. In the EU, there are a plethora of examples.

I'm not saying the Rebel never paid their mercs or had no money, I'm just saying that long-term contracts with them (i.e. repeated business) tended to involve a lot of payment holes and IOUs. This is backed up by this bit from the EotE core book:

The Alliance may keep a group primarily

interested in profit at arm's length A

mutually beneficial financial relationship

is not out of the question, but truly

mercenary minds won't be considered

particularly reliable by anyone

of importance with the Alliance.

The Alliance doesn't have the funds to really tempt anyone whose primary interest is money. Hell, even Han came back after getting paid. If someone prioritizes money over morals, then the Alliance isn't going to trust them or give them any assignments of note.

Well, they could just sell stolen imperial weapons to the rebels. They have funds.

Not much, not in the least because the Rebels tend to give resources to starving refugees.

It's part of why the Rebellion doesn't hire mercenaries in general, they can't really afford to pay them. Only the mercs who are willing to miss a few paychecks in exchange for a clear conscience stick around.

OR, they could actually sell the stolen stuff to independent systems, shady corporations or even criminals.

At which point, if they're making a conscious choice to do this over selling to the Rebellion, I'd agree with 2P51's assessment that they are no (longer) Jedi.

Then I'd say that by default, his players can never play jedi since they seem to be obsessed with money and wealth.

My understanding is Jedi commandeer what they need. Speeders, ships

My understanding is Jedi commandeer what they need. Speeders, ships

One of the reasons they're so revered and loved by the common people...

My understanding is Jedi commandeer what they need. Speeders, ships

One of the reasons they're so revered and loved by the common people...

Actually, I think the Jedi Order (much like contemporary religeous orders) get substantial stipends from both the Republic and generous donors, and they use those to reimburse any "commandeering" they do.

Although I don't think they do much of that in general, as they seem to have their own ships and speeders. (also paid for by stipends and generous gifts)