Was looking through the "Beyond the Rim" book today (just got it) and was looking forward to finally getting a description of the TT24 Holdout Blaster.

Dissapointingly, there wasn't one.

However, when googling for it, I found the 22T4 Holdout Blaster on Wookieepedia.

It states that it was the standard holdout blaster given to all ISB agents during the time the game is set in.

Now, considering the similarity in the names, I suspect it's simply a typo, and the TT24 is actually a 22T4.

Especially since the only characters depicted with a TT24 are ISB agents.

Now, I'm going to personally use that in my sessions, and the TT24 will simply be renamed to 22T4 and use the image provided in Wookieepedia.

However, I'm curious to know what all of you think of this (and if it's ever been mentioned to the devs).

Now, I'm going to personally use that in my sessions, and the TT24 will simply be renamed to 22T4 and use the image provided in Wookieepedia.

However, I'm curious to know what all of you think of this (and if it's ever been mentioned to the devs).

There’s a picture on the lower-left hand corner of page 26 that shows an ISB agent with what I presume to be a TT24. And it doesn’t look like a 22T4.

You could send in a question to the devs on this.

Now, I'm going to personally use that in my sessions, and the TT24 will simply be renamed to 22T4 and use the image provided in Wookieepedia.

However, I'm curious to know what all of you think of this (and if it's ever been mentioned to the devs).

There’s a picture on the lower-left hand corner of page 26 that shows an ISB agent with what I presume to be a TT24. And it doesn’t look like a 22T4.

You could send in a question to the devs on this.

Well, I often find that the images of people in the books don't relate well to what weaponry they have.

Well, I often find that the images of people in the books don't relate well to what weaponry they have.

True enough. So, you could send in a question to the developers about this, right?

Well, I often find that the images of people in the books don't relate well to what weaponry they have.

True enough. So, you could send in a question to the developers about this, right?

Sure, but how?

Sure, but how?

See the post at https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/108101-ffg-developer-answered-questions/page-7#entry1738858

Sure, but how?

See the post at https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/108101-ffg-developer-answered-questions/page-7#entry1738858

Thanks! Sent one now!

Still, regardless of the official response (or lack thereof), I'd still like to know what the other forum goers think.

I always assumed that the stats for the TT24 as listed in BtR was some writer erroneously typing "holdout" in the description of a regular blaster. If there exists a holdout blaster with precisely the same stats as a standard blaster pistol there's very little reason for anyone to get another kind of holdout blaster, ever.

Thanks! Sent one now!

Thanks!

Still, regardless of the official response (or lack thereof), I'd still like to know what the other forum goers think.

IMO, your explanation is simple and logical, and therefore most likely to be correct — Occam’s Razor and all that.

However, it would still be nice to know what the devs think on this subject.

Thanks again!

I always assumed that the stats for the TT24 as listed in BtR was some writer erroneously typing "holdout" in the description of a regular blaster. If there exists a holdout blaster with precisely the same stats as a standard blaster pistol there's very little reason for anyone to get another kind of holdout blaster, ever.

Well, if you read the wookieepedia description of the 22T4, you'd realise why it isn't a viable option for players (or anyone else really).

I always assumed that the stats for the TT24 as listed in BtR was some writer erroneously typing "holdout" in the description of a regular blaster. If there exists a holdout blaster with precisely the same stats as a standard blaster pistol there's very little reason for anyone to get another kind of holdout blaster, ever.

Well, if you read the wookieepedia description of the 22T4, you'd realise why it isn't a viable option for players (or anyone else really).

Reading that page also includes a picture which thoroughly demonstrates that the blaster in question isn't of the 'hold-out' variety. It's *much* too large for that description to fit.

I always assumed that the stats for the TT24 as listed in BtR was some writer erroneously typing "holdout" in the description of a regular blaster. If there exists a holdout blaster with precisely the same stats as a standard blaster pistol there's very little reason for anyone to get another kind of holdout blaster, ever.

Well, if you read the wookieepedia description of the 22T4, you'd realise why it isn't a viable option for players (or anyone else really).

Reading that page also includes a picture which thoroughly demonstrates that the blaster in question isn't of the 'hold-out' variety. It's *much* too large for that description to fit.

Oh I completely agree that the illustration is off.

But that doesn't invalidate anything else.

If you look at the blaster being wielded by the man in the image next to the stats for the ISB agents in Beyond the rim (obviously intended to be an image of the agents), you'll see that it is also too large to be a holdout blaster, but that's just how it is in SW sometimes.

And this also leads into the arguments about the sizes of other weapons, like how the DH 17 blaster pistol is almost the exact same size as the E 11 blaster carbine, yet one is a pistol and the other is a carbine, or how the HSB-200 is basically the same size as a DL-44, but still considered a holdout blaster.

The illustrations (and even actual real-life movie props) don't always make much sense.

The point here is, that there is a hold-out blaster (or just blaster if you will) that is given out to all ISB agents upon their graduation and that is their service weapon.

And yet in another publication, the ISB agents have a holdout blaster with a very similar name but with no other additional information.

This leads me to believe that the name is simply a misprint.

Well, I got an answer, but it sounds like a complete cop-out answer. (much like the "all the encumbrance values of all weapons are correct" answer given to the question about the DH 17 blaster and E-11 blaster being the same size and yet completely different encumbrance values).

Of course, I can't post the answer since this is included in the answer:

Of course, I can't post the answer since this is included in the answer:

The information contained in this electronic message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.

That issue has been noticed before, and Sam has specifically said that it’s okay to share the information with the members of this forum. I don’t know who actually responded to you, but you could go back and ask them to confirm.

I've spoken to Sam in person about his FAQ rulings, and he seems fine with sharing the answers to others for the benefit of the community.

It was Sam.

Here's the full message:

"Hi OddballE8,