So, the more I think about it, the more I really want my fleets to be canon. Or at least, canon enough. Because the more Legends ships I see/think about, the less the game feels like Star Wars to me. So for instance, I'm finding myself less and less enamoured of the Gladiator, but I can happily include the VSD because if nothing else it still looks almost identical to the ISD. I'm happy to include the Raider since it was developed in conjunction with Disney and their new canon department but the AFmkII is something I'd be happy to leave by the wayside. Having said that, I'm happy to include the MC30 since at the very least, it's based of Ralph Macquarrie sketches for Return of the Jedi.

Is there a list somewhere of which capital ships have appeared in the new canon so far? There's already been a few novels and a swag of comics as well as a TV show released since the new canon was implemented, have any of the old Legends ships been canonised? Or new ships revealed? Not talking about the Episode VII stuff obviously, since that will be it's whole own thing.

The Victory Star Destroyer us canon now since it was used in the Tarkin books. Other than that, only the current TIEs fit your requirements as well as the CR90 and Home One.

The Victory class has been made canon but AFAIK that's the only originally Legends ship from Armada that can say that.

Capship wise the ship classes that I know for certain have been canonized by the new novels are the Carrack-class Light Cruiser, CC-2200 Interdictor Cruiser, CC-7700 Interdictor Frigate, Immoblizer 418 Interdictor Cruiser, Interceptor class Frigate Secutor class Star Destroyer, Ton-Falk class Escort Carrier, and Victory class Star Destroyer. Hopefully they'll bring Luceno back soon because he is my favorite of the current Star Wars novel authors and canonized most of the ships on the above list so hopefully he will do more ship class canonizing in future books.

The Victory class has been made canon but AFAIK that's the only originally Legends ship from Armada that can say that.

The Hounds Tooth (Bossk's ship) was in Legends first, before its appearance was canonized in TCW.

That said, those Scum & Villainy ships aren't quite out yet.

The Victory Star Destroyer us canon now since it was used in the Tarkin books. Other than that, only the current TIEs fit your requirements as well as the CR90 and Home One.

Certainly the Neb is also cannon.

EDIT: This is not the post you're looking for. Move along, move along.

The Victory class has been made canon but AFAIK that's the only originally Legends ship from Armada that can say that.

Capship wise the ship classes that I know for certain have been canonized by the new novels are the Carrack-class Light Cruiser, CC-2200 Interdictor Cruiser, CC-7700 Interdictor Frigate, Immoblizer 418 Interdictor Cruiser, Interceptor class Frigate Secutor class Star Destroyer, Ton-Falk class Escort Carrier, and Victory class Star Destroyer. Hopefully they'll bring Luceno back soon because he is my favorite of the current Star Wars novel authors and canonized most of the ships on the above list so hopefully he will do more ship class canonizing in future books.

Sweet, that's a pretty long list. Do they all appear in Tarkin? He's one of my favourite characters, I really should pick that book up.

They are all in Tarkin except for the Interceptor class Frigate which was first seen in canon in Dark Disciple. The Carrack is in Aftermath as well as Tarkin and the Immobilizer is in Heir to the Jedi as well as Tarkin. The Escort carrier in Tarkin isn't given a class name but the general appearance described in the book fits the Ton-Falk, the fighter compliment is right and the weapons loadout matches in both number of weapons and model or at least manufacturer of the weapons the ship carries.

The Victory class has been made canon but AFAIK that's the only originally Legends ship from Armada that can say that.

Capship wise the ship classes that I know for certain have been canonized by the new novels are the Carrack-class Light Cruiser, CC-2200 Interdictor Cruiser, CC-7700 Interdictor Frigate, Immoblizer 418 Interdictor Cruiser, Interceptor class Frigate Secutor class Star Destroyer, Ton-Falk class Escort Carrier, and Victory class Star Destroyer. Hopefully they'll bring Luceno back soon because he is my favorite of the current Star Wars novel authors and canonized most of the ships on the above list so hopefully he will do more ship class canonizing in future books.

Sweet, that's a pretty long list. Do they all appear in Tarkin? He's one of my favourite characters, I really should pick that book up.

Read it, it is the best fiction Star Wars book I have read.

The Victory class has been made canon but AFAIK that's the only originally Legends ship from Armada that can say that.

Capship wise the ship classes that I know for certain have been canonized by the new novels are the Carrack-class Light Cruiser, CC-2200 Interdictor Cruiser, CC-7700 Interdictor Frigate, Immoblizer 418 Interdictor Cruiser, Interceptor class Frigate Secutor class Star Destroyer, Ton-Falk class Escort Carrier, and Victory class Star Destroyer. Hopefully they'll bring Luceno back soon because he is my favorite of the current Star Wars novel authors and canonized most of the ships on the above list so hopefully he will do more ship class canonizing in future books.

Sweet, that's a pretty long list. Do they all appear in Tarkin? He's one of my favourite characters, I really should pick that book up.

Read it, it is the best fiction Star Wars book I have read.

Just ordered it off the book depository

In the novel Lost Stars there's a reference to a "20 gun raider".

Is this referring to THE Raider, or something else?

Sad that you're limiting yourself to the new "canon". If it wasn't for Luceno reusing EU stuff, the Imperial fleet would consist of nothing but ISDs and SSDs, while the Rebels would have a handful of ships. The SW movies were great, but the EU made the universe feel real. Personally, several of my favorite SW ship designs are EU (E-Wing, TIE Defender, Victory Star Destroyer, Dreadnoughts, and Assault Frigates)

But, to each their own I guess.

FFG has already stated that they have no intention of making the PT/TCW era ships. That eliminates alot of Canon there. If the intention is to expand the game, we will see more EU ships.

I like quite a bit of the EU, but it has about the same crap to cool ratio as the PT, just easier to not read and ignore.

Let's not forget that some of the Clone Wars era designs made it to the Civil War era canon. Specifically, both the Pelta-class Frigate and the Arquitens-class Light Cruiser show up in Rebels. So I fully expect to see both in Armada at some point. And IMHO they both look awesome!

FFG has already stated that they have no intention of making the PT/TCW era ships. That eliminates alot of Canon there. If the intention is to expand the game, we will see more EU ships.

I like quite a bit of the EU, but it has about the same crap to cool ratio as the PT, just easier to not read and ignore.

You make me sad.

I would be thrilled to have the two factions from the Clone Wars series.

Playing the CIS in particular might be fun, since their navy is made up of vessels from many diffrent species without a unifying design philosophy.

FFG has already stated that they have no intention of making the PT/TCW era ships. That eliminates alot of Canon there. If the intention is to expand the game, we will see more EU ships.

I like quite a bit of the EU, but it has about the same crap to cool ratio as the PT, just easier to not read and ignore.

You make me sad.

I would be thrilled to have the two factions from the Clone Wars series.

Playing the CIS in particular might be fun, since their navy is made up of vessels from many diffrent species without a unifying design philosophy.

FFG has already stated that they have no intention of making the PT/TCW era ships. That eliminates alot of Canon there. If the intention is to expand the game, we will see more EU ships.

I like quite a bit of the EU, but it has about the same crap to cool ratio as the PT, just easier to not read and ignore.

You make me sad.

I would be thrilled to have the two factions from the Clone Wars series.

Playing the CIS in particular might be fun, since their navy is made up of vessels from many diffrent species without a unifying design philosophy.

I fully agree! I would like nothing better than to see ALL ships from EU, PT,whatever. Saddly I am doubtfull. I will just order the ones they won't make from one of the awesome 3D designers that have taken a liking to Armada, or I will just design and build my own.

Armada was released in 2015, not labeled "Ledgends" (AFAIK), and authorized by Disney. Doesn't this qualify all content in Armada as official canon? This doesn't make any story events canon, but the ships, titles and characters exist in some fashion in the official canon. Right?

Armada was released in 2015, not labeled "Ledgends" (AFAIK), and authorized by Disney. Doesn't this qualify all content in Armada as official canon? This doesn't make any story events canon, but the ships, titles and characters exist in some fashion in the official canon. Right?

Armada was released in 2015, not labeled "Ledgends" (AFAIK), and authorized by Disney. Doesn't this qualify all content in Armada as official canon? This doesn't make any story events canon, but the ships, titles and characters exist in some fashion in the official canon. Right?

I don't think that's how it works with FFG stuff at least.

I would certainly hope not!

Honest question. Why do you believe that FFG is exempt from the current canon guidelines put forward by Disney? Armada is officially licensed and we know they provide oversight to FFG (see the Raider).

The official Star Wars canon consists of the six released Star Wars theatrical feature films, the Star Wars animated film and television series The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels, and every other material released after April 25, 2014, unless otherwise stated.

Edit. Hmmm. The source for that quote on Wikipedia doesn't seem to actually say the part in bold. Oh well. I still feel that they should label Armada under Legends for clarity.

Honest question. Why do you believe that FFG is exempt from the current canon guidelines put forward by Disney?

Mostly because they're more "Star Wars setting" than "Star Wars fiction".

X-Wing Miniatures had been going since before the announcement - they can't go back and slap a Legends banner on all the old boxes - but that doesn't mean that any of the EU pilots are canon now.

Same applies to Armada - it includes Howlrunner, Tycho, Rhymer, etc - because X-Wing Miniatures did - but that doesn't mean that those are "canon once they appear in Armada".

You would think that ships would be one of the easiest things to canonize. Just because a fighter or cap ship hasn't appeared in a movie, doesn't mean it would do any harm existing in the vast universe of Star Wars. Disney should just go ahead and Canonize the vast majority of EU tech. It really helps the universe feel bigger and more believable... Especially if the alternative is a handful of classes on each side.

At the moment, it is a grey area of the new Canon. Unless, or until a guideline is established by LFL, it can be assumed to be potentially Canon.

However te existence of the models themselves increases the likelihood that a writer will include them in future Canon material. Both "Rebels" & "Star Wars Anthology, Rogue One" will Canonize anything they include. While I am sure we cane expect NEW ships as well, both will require Civil War style ships to help set the mood, and it is not unheard of for a writer to borrow from a related source, just because they think it looks cool.