The Imperial Raider title upgrade Instigator reads: "Enemy squadrons at distance 1 are treated as if they are engaged by 2 additional squadrons, even if they are not currently engaged."

Why does it specifically say "as if they are engaged by 2 additional squadrons"? What difference does it make if a squadron is engaged by "an additional squadron" vs "2 additional squadrons"?

This specific wording makes me feel like I am missing something in rules. Can someone help me make sense of it?

The Imperial Raider title upgrade Instigator reads: "Enemy squadrons at distance 1 are treated as if they are engaged by 2 additional squadrons, even if they are not currently engaged."

Why does it specifically say "as if they are engaged by 2 additional squadrons"? What difference does it make if a squadron is engaged by "an additional squadron" vs "2 additional squadrons"?

This specific wording makes me feel like I am missing something in rules. Can someone help me make sense of it?

Currently it means nothing.

You'll have to wait until the wave 2 fighter pack hits the shelves before it makes any sense.

As of right now, nothing.

Rule change or future special rules for new named squadrons, or even the general rogue ships for that matter, might be able to ignore Engaged if only 1 ship.

Two questions:

1. How this title work with ruthless strategist. You would attack engaged squadrons but you can't deal damage to your "phantoms" squadrons so RT doesn't work right?

2. This title doesnt consider your raider as a squadron so the engaged enemy squadronns can't attack the raider right? I though make a little combo with the counter1 upgrade and I want to be sure.

1. No extra damage

2. They can't move, but can attack the raider since there are no actual squadrons (up for debate - ffg has been emailed)

2. They can't move, but can attack the raider since there are no actual squadrons (up for debate - ffg has been emailed)

I hope that this is how it will work, b/c if the squadrons cannot attack the raider, that will be just a tad broken. Hopefully FFG gives a reply soon on it so we know for sure, as it will determine if I put the Quad Laser Turrets on it or not.

i dont get why people think its up for debate.

The rules clearly state "if possible" when regarding engaged squadrons firing at squadrons instead of ships. It is NOT possible to fire at a phantom ship, so therefore they can fire at the raider or any other ship that happens to be close by. All that card does is prevent them from fleeing or doing a preemptive maneuver for future turns. Which, on its own like that, is pretty powerful for the cost. Heavies obviously dont care but any other squadron would be quite pissed if they got locked down by this thing, especially with Counter 1 on it (basically good odds at trading damage with squadrons, since most squadrons only have 1 die to begin with)

Though im surprised it didnt tack on there "can only target the Raider if there are other ships in range" - kinda makes sense for that to be there, yet it isnt.

Heavys will be locked down as well. They are just as much engaged as any other squadron, they just don't prevent other squadrons from moving or attacking ships.

Heavy is not a positive keyword.

Heavys will be locked down as well. They are just as much engaged as any other squadron, they just don't prevent other squadrons from moving or attacking ships.

Heavies ignore the engage restriction. They can move in or out of them freely and do not have to fire at squadrons. Hence why i said they dont care about this rule.

Yes they are still considered "engaged" but it literally means NOTHING to them.

Heavys will be locked down as well. They are just as much engaged as any other squadron, they just don't prevent other squadrons from moving or attacking ships.

Heavies ignore the engage restriction. They can move in or out of them freely and do not have to fire at squadrons. Hence why i said they dont care about this rule.

Yes they are still considered "engaged" but it literally means NOTHING to them.

You need to go re-read the keyword. You are way off.

Heavys will be locked down as well. They are just as much engaged as any other squadron, they just don't prevent other squadrons from moving or attacking ships.

Heavies ignore the engage restriction. They can move in or out of them freely and do not have to fire at squadrons. Hence why i said they dont care about this rule.

Yes they are still considered "engaged" but it literally means NOTHING to them.

Vineheart that is not at all what Heavy does. Heavy simply means that the Squadron with Heavy will neither prevent Squadrons it is engaged with from attacking ships or moving away, it is in no way beneficial to the Squadron with Heavy.

You need to go re-read the keyword. You are way off.

You are correct, i misread it.

Further makes me dislike bombers. Thought they were awesome at first but the more i use them the more i hate them.

You are correct, i misread it.

Further makes me dislike bombers. Thought they were awesome at first but the more i use them the more i hate them.

Doctor Rhymer, OR How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomber.

Avalable at a FLGS near you, every weekend.

Well now that we know what grit does, this title makes a lot of sense.