Can We Bring Balance to the Force

By Osoroshii, in X-Wing

I've been noticing more and more talk about the dice in X-Wing. This topic seems to flare up from time to time. It's about time we just deal with it and be done with it. There are many ways to cheat dice in games, including baking them weighting them or just going through and finding the naturally unbalanced ones. I've seen tournaments where players have rolls like gods with dice or even just rolled them a little funny.

This seems like it is juts such a simple thing to fix and here's how. At the beginning of the match once the player with initiative is decided both players use the players dice who has initiative. The other player should remove his dice from the table. This will help discourage the behavior of finding the perfect rolling attack die or the more hyenas heinous baking of dice.

By this point most, if not close to all of us have at least 6 of each color die. this is more then enough for both player to use together. With so many changes to the way we play at tournaments this one should be considered for the next wave of updates to the rules. Then at last we can bring balance to the force.

Edited by Osoroshii

I haven't personally encountered this issue, but see no reason to oppose such a change. Sounds reasonable to me!

but if we use my dice for both players, it'll grossly favor low agility ships :(

I actually like the idea, because I played against a very young opponent last tourney (TO's son) and he just kept grabbing enough red dice for his attack which included some of mine, because he didn't even have enough (or more likely, he forgot to grab them all from his dad or something). The next day I realized I had swapped one of my dice for his, and his die was all worn out, kind of dirty, and had a weird little point on one end instead of being smooth, glossy, and rounded on all ends. It looks and feels wrong with the rest of my shiny red dice. If everyone used one player's dice, there wouldn't be any mix-ups.

Meh, dice is dice. Even imbalanced ones in favor of blanks still fall prey to gravity and momentum and pyhsics.

This idea also has problems. what if my dice are the skewed ones? now i'm giving my opponent hits/crits, yet since i'm also rolling my rigged evade dice, I have now crawled the game to a stand still, since my red dice now equal my greens.

I'd rather trust my own dice to fail me than someone else's, unless I'm borrowing them for a game. Honestly I think the dice need to be a constant amid this sea of change we have had recently.

This will help discourage the behavior of finding the perfect rolling attack die or the more hyenas baking of dice.

What. The. Hell. Do small African animals have to do with X-wing? And how does one bake a dice with them?

but if we use my dice for both players, it'll grossly favor low agility ships :(

Could be a good strat! High damaging red dice and low rolling greens. Punish those high def/low hp ships. TLT and PWT!

:(

The easiest way to actually solve this "problem" is to force both players to use the official FFG dice rolling app. Of course, that's a terrible idea, because if I wanted to play electronically I'd just play on Vassal.

I believe in heroclix you must allow your opponent to use your dice if they request to do so. Might be an easy rule to implement.

The same applies here, I think. Much like templates.

It is hardly something that needs to be required.

This has come up from time to time over the years in our area. I and one other have already agreed to a shared dice pool using only one players dice. I'm subtly pushing the agenda to eventually corner a few dice pools that I believe are modified. Sadly I think I had some myself that factory made were imbalanced. It seems over time though with mix ups my pool has been made now of rather poor dice now. When I'm completely whiffing multiple successive HLC shots with rerolls over multiple games...I think I have a problem.

My buddy bought me a set of 6 clear casino dice for 40k a while ago. They were awesome. Clearly we need casinos to have games of chance with 8 sided dice so we can co-opt them for X-wing.

If one needs to weight dice or bake them or... Whatever. You have bigger problems than anything involving X-wing. 'Nuff said.

Edited by Crawfskeezen

I actually like the idea, because I played against a very young opponent last tourney (TO's son) and he just kept grabbing enough red dice for his attack which included some of mine, because he didn't even have enough (or more likely, he forgot to grab them all from his dad or something). The next day I realized I had swapped one of my dice for his, and his die was all worn out, kind of dirty, and had a weird little point on one end instead of being smooth, glossy, and rounded on all ends. It looks and feels wrong with the rest of my shiny red dice. If everyone used one player's dice, there wouldn't be any mix-ups.

I does not help he likes to eat m&m's during matches :P

Yeah that'd probably do it :P

I use weighted dice.

They always land up blank :'(

Nah I say use your own dice. If ya really don't like my dice results then call the to over.

People bake their dice?
*Mind baffled*

I have a feeling mine would be used every game (clear and marbled sets). Actually at the last tournament I had one of the regulars just start using my dice cause his failed him. He believed using the regional dice was helping me. I didn't care, in the end they betrayed him just as much. It more came down to his positioning then dice. Almost like how the game usually is determined...

Nah I say use your own dice. If ya really don't like my dice results then call the to over.

Fairly sure the rules allow a player to insist on shared dice and templates.

Dear OP:

Bro, what's your F'ing problem? Have you not heard of calipers and floating pools or are you a Vegas n00b that deserves to be fished by pro players?

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wouldnt work if his list relies on low agility ships he could make his evade dice roll poorly so if your ships were high agility they would get hurt badly

This reminds me that of a guy during a tournament who would pre-roll all his dice and use the "best ones" to make his actual roll. Every-****-time. He's also the guy who was still list building across from my list in the first round while the TO said it's time to start, put missiles on a Decimator, and huffed his vape all game. He was obnoxious and I'm bitter he got third at the tourney (and beat me). I wonder if these people do this to get under their opponents skin. Dude bro.

You didn't call him out on the missiles? Just say something. Not that hard.

I'm surprised the missiles on the Decimator weren't Cheridan Refit.