So the name of the topic says it all. ow I know that Chewbacca will flip cards face down before resolving, but lets say what happens if R2-D2<crew> flips a Major hull breach.

• So Chewbacca,when you are dealt a face up damage card, immediately flip it face down without resolving it.
• Major Hull Breach: Starting the round after you receive this card all damage cards are dealt face up. ACTION: Flip this card face down.

So question is which will take precedence or is there an established order this scenario resolves. I know if Major Hull Breach was effective the next action would flip it but for sake lets say Chewbacca could not take any actions. How would damge resolve with this card still face up?

As I understand it it won't effect chewie unless rexlar brath says it does. it's flipped down before the next turn so it can't do anything, right? No action is required to clear it.

If it's flipped by Rexy or a bad R2 then it resolves as normal, next turn then damage may be face up. or action to face down again.

Am I missing something or is this really straightforward?

Chewie (pilot) says you flip face-up damage cards when they are dealt to you. MHB says all damnage cards are dealt face up.

Unless I've totally misunderstood what's being asked, doesnt the question answer itself?

Am I missing something or is this really straightforward?

Chewie (pilot) says you flip face-up damage cards when they are dealt to you. MHB says all damnage cards are dealt face up.

Unless I've totally misunderstood what's being asked, doesnt the question answer itself?

A negative effect usually overrides a positive effect.

Am I missing something or is this really straightforward?

Chewie (pilot) says you flip face-up damage cards when they are dealt to you. MHB says all damnage cards are dealt face up.

Unless I've totally misunderstood what's being asked, doesnt the question answer itself?

A negative effect usually overrides a positive effect.

There's no negative effect. Nothing says "cannot."

Let's go through the steps:

After Major Hull Breach become active, all damage cards Chewbacca receives are dealt face-up.

When Chewbacca is dealt a face-up damage card, he flips it face down.

That's it!

So MHB on Chewbacca is a wiff then. So Chewie won't even waste an action to flip it face down. Unique pilots are getting a buff and generics have been nerfed.

Am I missing something or is this really straightforward?

Chewie (pilot) says you flip face-up damage cards when they are dealt to you. MHB says all damnage cards are dealt face up.

Unless I've totally misunderstood what's being asked, doesnt the question answer itself?

A negative effect usually overrides a positive effect.

There's no negative effect. Nothing says "cannot."

Let's go through the steps:

After Major Hull Breach become active, all damage cards Chewbacca receives are dealt face-up.

When Chewbacca is dealt a face-up damage card, he flips it face down.

That's it!

As a counter point:

Damaged Engine makes all turns red, but Unhinged Astromech makes 3 turns green. That's it!

Am I missing something or is this really straightforward?

Chewie (pilot) says you flip face-up damage cards when they are dealt to you. MHB says all damnage cards are dealt face up.

Unless I've totally misunderstood what's being asked, doesnt the question answer itself?

A negative effect usually overrides a positive effect.

There's no negative effect. Nothing says "cannot."

Let's go through the steps:

After Major Hull Breach become active, all damage cards Chewbacca receives are dealt face-up.

When Chewbacca is dealt a face-up damage card, he flips it face down.

That's it!

As a counter point:

Damaged Engine makes all turns red, but Unhinged Astromech makes 3 turns green. That's it!

That's not a counterpoint, though. Unhinged makes all turns green, until the Damaged Engine card (a newer effect) causes them to turn red.

Major Hull Breach causes every card dealt to Chewbacca to be faceup. Chewbacca deals with those the same way he would deal with faceup cards dealt by Proton Bomb, Advanced Homing Missile, or any other critical hit effect: he immediately flips them facedown without resolving their effect.

The text on Major Hull Breach does nothing to override the text of Chewbacca's printed pilot ability, so Chewie resolves normally.

So MHB on Chewbacca is a wiff then. So Chewie won't even waste an action to flip it face down. Unique pilots are getting a buff and generics have been nerfed.

Only a few unique pilots are truly getting a buff. Chewbacca can't have Rexlar flip an Injured Pilot anymore, so he's going to be crit-immune except to a couple of unique effects. Injured Pilot is out of the deck in general. However, Dash will no longer receive any pointless Weapon Malfunctions, and Decimators can no longer be tagged with pointless Minor Hull Breaches or Munitions Failures. Loose Stabilizer is a terrible crit on almost any pilot.

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

seriously...the whole completely crit immune thing is very anti fun imo.

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Exactly. I am so sick of him being the reigning Worlds Champion and all this constant talk of Fat-Chewie...oh wait, I'm mixing him up with Han, aren't I. Nope, not an issue.

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

seriously...the whole completely crit immune thing is very anti fun imo.

It's not that bad. He's only PS5, so he's not going to arc-dodge, and he doesn't have any other pilot abilities that can actually affect the board state. He just ensures that you're going the long way through his 13 hit points.

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Exactly. I am so sick of him being the reigning Worlds Champion and all this constant talk of Fat-Chewie...oh wait, I'm mixing him up with Han, aren't I. Nope, not an issue.

It's mostly just that it's unfun to play against... "Yay I got 3 crits in one roll!!" "Oh wait it's chewie crits are pointless :'("

So MHB on Chewbacca is a wiff then. So Chewie won't even waste an action to flip it face down. Unique pilots are getting a buff and generics have been nerfed.

1 unique pilot...

So MHB on Chewbacca is a wiff then. So Chewie won't even waste an action to flip it face down. Unique pilots are getting a buff and generics have been nerfed.

I dunno - generics with Elites and Determination just became more resiliant.

Am I missing something or is this really straightforward?

Chewie (pilot) says you flip face-up damage cards when they are dealt to you. MHB says all damnage cards are dealt face up.

Unless I've totally misunderstood what's being asked, doesnt the question answer itself?

A negative effect usually overrides a positive effect.

There's no negative effect. Nothing says "cannot."

Let's go through the steps:

After Major Hull Breach become active, all damage cards Chewbacca receives are dealt face-up.

When Chewbacca is dealt a face-up damage card, he flips it face down.

That's it!

As a counter point:

Damaged Engine makes all turns red, but Unhinged Astromech makes 3 turns green. That's it!

Yes - because there's a specific ruling on effects that make MANEUVERS simultaneously easier and more difficult.

It's not a general ruling

Major Hull breach is negative in effect, but not in wording. Do not mix the two.

I would easily see that as: Breach attempts to give face up. Chewie says they go down. They stay down.

Am I missing something or is this really straightforward?

Chewie (pilot) says you flip face-up damage cards when they are dealt to you. MHB says all damnage cards are dealt face up.

Unless I've totally misunderstood what's being asked, doesnt the question answer itself?

A negative effect usually overrides a positive effect.

There's no negative effect. Nothing says "cannot."

Let's go through the steps:

After Major Hull Breach become active, all damage cards Chewbacca receives are dealt face-up.

When Chewbacca is dealt a face-up damage card, he flips it face down.

That's it!

As a counter point:

Damaged Engine makes all turns red, but Unhinged Astromech makes 3 turns green. That's it!

That's... not equivalent at all. That's a contradiction that has to be ruled on.

A card that says "deal normally-face-down cards face up" and a card that says "when you get a face-up card, flip it back down" are not contradictory. Everything you need to know is right there on the cards.

Oh, I know he's not overpowered per se.

He's just irritating. And fat turrets weren't great at that aspect to start with.

Me, I just HLC him to death and remain quietly relieved my one disadvantage won't matter today.

So MHB on Chewbacca is a wiff then. So Chewie won't even waste an action to flip it face down. Unique pilots are getting a buff and generics have been nerfed.

So, just to make sure I've got this...

If one specific unique pilot gets dealt the 2:33 occurrences of Major Hull Breach, and then gets hit with Rexlar, or an unlucky R2 crew use, or Saboteur (giggle, snort!), then he'll be net +1 action because of the interaction.

Whoooo! Hot **** boys, who wants my every generic pilot? They'za totally useless now!!

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Exactly. I am so sick of him being the reigning Worlds Champion and all this constant talk of Fat-Chewie...oh wait, I'm mixing him up with Han, aren't I. Nope, not an issue.

It's mostly just that it's unfun to play against... "Yay I got 3 crits in one roll!!" "Oh wait it's chewie crits are pointless :'("

and Han is offensively oriented - it's totally unfun to play against ships that have built in attack dice mofifications

and Lando can give a massive boost to action efficiency -that's so unfun if I've buuilt a blocking list to prevent actions

and Dash ignores obstacles - that's so unfun if I've been really clever with my obstacle placement

shall I keep going ?

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Exactly. I am so sick of him being the reigning Worlds Champion and all this constant talk of Fat-Chewie...oh wait, I'm mixing him up with Han, aren't I. Nope, not an issue.

It's mostly just that it's unfun to play against... "Yay I got 3 crits in one roll!!" "Oh wait it's chewie crits are pointless :'("

and Han is offensively oriented - it's totally unfun to play against ships that have built in attack dice mofifications

and Lando can give a massive boost to action efficiency -that's so unfun if I've buuilt a blocking list to prevent actions

and Dash ignores obstacles - that's so unfun if I've been really clever with my obstacle placement

shall I keep going ?

Han is balanced by having to reroll all dice. Lando is a gamble, so balanced by that. And I think most people would consider dash rendars ability to be ridiculous, since it invalidates obstacles which are a huge part of the game. shall I keep going?

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Exactly. I am so sick of him being the reigning Worlds Champion and all this constant talk of Fat-Chewie...oh wait, I'm mixing him up with Han, aren't I. Nope, not an issue.

It's mostly just that it's unfun to play against... "Yay I got 3 crits in one roll!!" "Oh wait it's chewie crits are pointless :'("

I'll one-up you on that: four natural criticals rolled while attacking Chewbacca with a HLC. I'm still trying to calculate how much luck I wasted there.

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Exactly. I am so sick of him being the reigning Worlds Champion and all this constant talk of Fat-Chewie...oh wait, I'm mixing him up with Han, aren't I. Nope, not an issue.

It's mostly just that it's unfun to play against... "Yay I got 3 crits in one roll!!" "Oh wait it's chewie crits are pointless :'("

and Han is offensively oriented - it's totally unfun to play against ships that have built in attack dice mofifications

and Lando can give a massive boost to action efficiency -that's so unfun if I've buuilt a blocking list to prevent actions

and Dash ignores obstacles - that's so unfun if I've been really clever with my obstacle placement

shall I keep going ?

Han is balanced by having to reroll all dice. Lando is a gamble, so balanced by that. And I think most people would consider dash rendars ability to be ridiculous, since it invalidates obstacles which are a huge part of the game. shall I keep going?

No need to keep going because you just validated the exact point I was making.

It's nice when we all end up agreeing

Chewbacca is one of those charming cards that really needed a little more caution in the design phase.

A "Once per attack" limit wouldn't have hurt, y'know?

Exactly. I am so sick of him being the reigning Worlds Champion and all this constant talk of Fat-Chewie...oh wait, I'm mixing him up with Han, aren't I. Nope, not an issue.

It's mostly just that it's unfun to play against... "Yay I got 3 crits in one roll!!" "Oh wait it's chewie crits are pointless :'("

Suddenly, we remember Bossk's Pilot Ability is the counter to Chewbacca. "You don't take faceup damage, eh? Okay, you just take double damage off of my Mangler Cannon crits. It works 100% of the time, everytime."