Still out of likes, but yeah there's a reason I've ordered 2...

Ive seen prices for X-Wing stuff on ebay sell for beyond the realm of reason! £29.99 for C3P0 comes to mind and consistently sells for that price thats **** near half the cost of the Tantive expansion itself from one card.

I think it'd also be a good idea for FFG to update the original core set to contain the new rulebook and damage deck, but for all we know that might already be the plan.

THIS! If they keep printing the original core set with the old deck and rules, and then force people to use "new" rules and damage deck in tourneys, that would absolutely be a truly first rate d**k move.

I think it's been stated that the OT core set reprint will have the new rules and DD .

Joe, that B-Wing looks like still wanting to shoot at the post while the others aren't looking.

Joe, that B-Wing looks like still wanting to shoot at the post while the others aren't looking.

THANKS FOR THAT STAR BROTHER!

:lol: :D ^_^

For £25 you get 3 ships, normally worth £30.

Not to me.

I'm struggling to see the problem here? It's only a bad deal if you can categorically say: "I'm never, ever, going to fly the T-70 or the TIE-fo."

Someone may well say that now (and I wouldn't believe them), but give it a few weeks/months and they'll see them in good lists and other people having fun with them, plus them being cool in Ep7 and you can bet people will want them, buy the core set and wonder what all the fuss was about.

I might theoretically fly them in VASSAL some day, big maybe. I will not pay money for them, because economic influence is the best way to convince Disney etc that they are making decisions I don't like.

Now, I don't play physically enough that I actually need any new X-Wing stuff, but if I did I'd be putting money towards ships that I don't think are irredeemable dreck.

For £25 you get 3 ships, normally worth £30.

Not to me.

I'm struggling to see the problem here? It's only a bad deal if you can categorically say: "I'm never, ever, going to fly the T-70 or the TIE-fo."

Someone may well say that now (and I wouldn't believe them), but give it a few weeks/months and they'll see them in good lists and other people having fun with them, plus them being cool in Ep7 and you can bet people will want them, buy the core set and wonder what all the fuss was about.

I might theoretically fly them in VASSAL some day, big maybe. I will not pay money for them, because economic influence is the best way to convince Disney etc that they are making decisions I don't like.

Now, I don't play physically enough that I actually need any new X-Wing stuff, but if I did I'd be putting money towards ships that I don't think are irredeemable dreck.

Presumably then, the requirement for a new damage deck isn't a problem for you then.

I think it's been stated that the OT core set reprint will have the new rules and DD .

I think it's been stated that the OT core set reprint will have the new rules and DD .

Huzzah! I have officially got nothing to complain about, then. And that means even more new damage decks floating around the secondary market for those people who only play Scum or hate the Episode 7 ships or whathaveyou. EVERYONE'S A WINNER!

Hmm lets not get too hopeful - I've not seen any official source for this...

Surprising that a few people are actually complaining about a 25 dollar purchase. From my perspective, every few months I end up spending at least 100 bucks on this game for a new wave, or a huge ship, or multiple copies of something. This game probably costs me approx $300 a year to maintain, play, and collect. Coming from that perspective, a $25 damage deck is not really an issue. Add in the fact that you get dice, rules, and 3 new ships, and you've got an amazing deal. Core sets have always been the best way to get loads of ships for cheap.

I think it's been stated that the OT core set reprint will have the new rules and DD .

Huzzah! I have officially got nothing to complain about, then. And that means even more new damage decks floating around the secondary market for those people who only play Scum or hate the Episode 7 ships or whathaveyou. EVERYONE'S A WINNER!

Hmm lets not get too hopeful - I've not seen any official source for this...

The new article makes it sound like they aren't doing that.

I think it's been stated that the OT core set reprint will have the new rules and DD .

Huzzah! I have officially got nothing to complain about, then. And that means even more new damage decks floating around the secondary market for those people who only play Scum or hate the Episode 7 ships or whathaveyou. EVERYONE'S A WINNER!

Hmm lets not get too hopeful - I've not seen any official source for this...

It would take some special stupidity to have two sets of rules and damage cards in print.

True! It's not been officialy stated but FFG is a business first and foremost and having to print an obsolete damage deck and rule book while printing one's that are upto date is plain stupid.

I think it's been stated that the OT core set reprint will have the new rules and DD .

Huzzah! I have officially got nothing to complain about, then. And that means even more new damage decks floating around the secondary market for those people who only play Scum or hate the Episode 7 ships or whathaveyou. EVERYONE'S A WINNER!

Hmm lets not get too hopeful - I've not seen any official source for this...

The new article makes it sound like they aren't doing that.

Yeah it made it clear that the new set is a new way to enter the game...

True! It's not been officialy stated but FFG is a business first and foremost and having to print an obsolete damage deck and rule book while printing one's that are upto date is plain stupid.

FFG does update sets with new errata... so maybe they are going to include the new stuff when the new year hits... dunno. If they do keep the old stuff in the old set after 1/1/2016 that will be odd.

True! It's not been officialy stated but FFG is a business first and foremost and having to print an obsolete damage deck and rule book while printing one's that are upto date is plain stupid.

FFG does update sets with new errata... so maybe they are going to include the new stuff when the new year hits... dunno. If they do keep the old stuff in the old set after 1/1/2016 that will be odd.

True! It's not been officialy stated but FFG is a business first and foremost and having to print an obsolete damage deck and rule book while printing one's that are upto date is plain stupid.

The key is to consider when the original sets were printed and produced. Everything that is on shelves now is the old stuff and seeing as there was a recent restock if I recall correctly every original core set you pick up for the foreseeable future will have the old deck and rule book.

I would imagine that the next time they produce those core sets those components will be swapped out. That being said given the recent restock it will likely be well down the road when that happens.

True! It's not been officialy stated but FFG is a business first and foremost and having to print an obsolete damage deck and rule book while printing one's that are upto date is plain stupid.

FFG does update sets with new errata... so maybe they are going to include the new stuff when the new year hits... dunno. If they do keep the old stuff in the old set after 1/1/2016 that will be odd.

Im sure buyers of the OT core set are going to have to be cautious that they don't accidentally get one that's got the old RB & DD in them while the transition phase is ongoing but beyond FFG recalling any excess stock of the OT core set and repackaging them to the new format, which may be more expensive then simply allowing retailers to clear stock at a reduced cost to get them out of circulation? Might be a good way to add T65s and Tie's to ones collection at a retail cost of say £15?

True! It's not been officialy stated but FFG is a business first and foremost and having to print an obsolete damage deck and rule book while printing one's that are upto date is plain stupid.

The key is to consider when the original sets were printed and produced. Everything that is on shelves now is the old stuff and seeing as there was a recent restock if I recall correctly every original core set you pick up for the foreseeable future will have the old deck and rule book.

I would imagine that the next time they produce those core sets those components will be swapped out. That being said given the recent restock it will likely be well down the road when that happens.

I think the recent re-stock hasn't appeared yet and theory was that these would have the new stuff in them.

This wasn't a cash grab.

This was a straight up improvement to the game.

X-Wing will be better with the new damage deck.

I can totally agree that it will improve the game, but making us buy Core Sets just for the damage deck is a rotten way to treat players/customers. And aren't we, the competitive players, the ones that are driving the game? Heck, I organize tournaments and store championships for FFG. Excluding us unless we buy a new Core Set sucks. And its even worse for Scum players...

Some people have said we will be able to buy them on eBay, but who is going to buy a new Core Set and then sell the damage deck? That makes no sense. Some people may buy two core sets and some of them may part with the new damage deck, but I imagine those numbers will be very limited. And again, why can't I pay FFG instead of an eBay user. I want to support the game, I just don't want to feel ripped off doing it.

Some may have experienced this with MTG or WH, but that's a poor reason for FFG to pull the same stunt. I'm not against FFG making money and I want to buy new expansions and ships, but this feels like many of us are being treated unfairly.

For a company that routinely releases card packs for its other games, it doesn't make sense that they can't sell the deck separately. Or if FFG really cared about treating players fairly, allow proxy decks in tournament play. Or errata the existing deck. Problem solved. They're not gouging us for money, right? Come on, they're smart guys - they could have come up with a better solution than "buy a new core set or stop playing competitively".

Come on, they're smart guys - they could have come up with a better solution than "buy a new core set or stop playing competitively".

Here's a solution

Anyway of telling from the box when it was manufactured?

Bar code or serial number or the like...

How can FFG say that it's not X-wing 2.0 or that it doesn't replace the original core set when you have to play with a new 2.0 damage deck? Also, they have tweaked some of the rules though they say they streamlined it.

Is there something wrong with calling it X-wing 2.0? Call it what it is, a reboot.

Being forced to purchase a new core set to continue playing tournament play is totally unfair.

A cynical person might say FFG is happy forcing this change in order to sell more core sets. Include the fact that there have already been a few forced purchase updates like Rebel Aces for AW's or, worst of all, the Raider for TieA's.

I don't care about the new core set, the new T-70 or the new TIE's, and I certainly don't want to be forced to buy them to continue playing a game I have invested significant money into.

I don't believe a company like FFG, with talented game designers, couldn't come up with a way of allowing all players to participate in X-Wing Organized Play instead of excluding those unwilling to buy a new core set.

Someday this game will be out of print and players will be scarce. Quicherbichen. Nobody is forcing you to play the game. Tourneys and leagues also cost money, so what?