It's taken me a day to recover, but I've regained enough strength to spread the word lest it happens to someone else.

His list was:

Blackmoon Squadron Pilot [R2-D6, juke, sensor jammer]

Etahn [R4-D6, juke, sensor jammer]

Tarn Mison [R7 astromech]

For those unfamiliar with Juke:

My list:

Academy Pilot x 3

Howlrunner [hull upgrade, swarm tactics]

Deathrain [conner net, cluster mines, extra munitions, advsen, autothrusters]

I managed to kill Tarn, but aside from Conner Net and Cluster Mine damage, the TIEs were unable to deal any damage to the E-wings which were evading every turn. To be fair, I was running a mini-swarm which might just be the worst matchup for this list since Sensor Jammer was activating 4+ times per round while I relied on green dice for survival and was extremely susceptible to Etahn's ability.

All kidding aside, I don't think this revolutionizes E-wings or anything. But Juke seems to be a really useful card and it was refreshing to see it on two E-wings spamming evade every turn. It will be interesting to see it on some other ships that we may have forgotten about. Personally, I think it could do very well on Fat Hans with Gunner or the Mist Hunter - both are ships that the evade action does a lot defensively, and Juke allows you to maintain some offensive boost for only 2 pts.

not entirely sure how mr blackmoon was supposed to make Juke good without any action efficiency (I mean, I could understand it with FCS and then evade...)

since this is more of Juke thread than an E-wing thread I do agree we could see it on anyone that can

a.) evade (obviously)

b.) not rely on predator/ptl for their ept slot

so imo, Corran is right out. Eathn, though? Maybe (dem crits).

Fat Han is definitely a (sad) possibility, and since the Mist Hunter has a crew slot (k4) it's definitely a contender

there's also A-wings and FFG trying to push Fos (esp Omega Leader) since Juke comes in that expansion. Personally, seems way too finnicky on Fos even with the evade box, but a-wings are going to love it.

Very clever use of Juke! I like it. I can't wait to see all these crazy new lists pop up.

Yeah as you say its good on FCS/Juke E-E-wings, but probably also on A-Wings with PTL and juke. I imagine it could also revitalize Wes Janson. With all the X-Wing fixes we seem to get he might be goid to take away tokens, then you follow up with Juking A-Wings that essentially punch through despite 2 Red dice only.

Same combo might work on Palob with Tansarii point Veterans with Juke.

Juke is small ship only. so no Fat han. FFG was smart with this one. However, you might make a play with the K-wing and mira as long as you took golden rod!

not entirely sure how mr blackmoon was supposed to make Juke good without any action efficiency (I mean, I could understand it with FCS and then evade...)

It was moreso the Sensor Jammer & Juke combo.

Shooting at an Academy Pilot for example:

1. Etahn fires 3v3 with Juke - he forces you to use a Focus here unless you want to take a crit

2. Blackmoon fires 3v3 with Juke - you no longer have a Focus and take at least one autocrit

3. AP return fire at 2v3 - except they have Sensor Jammer, you no longer have Focus and they still have evade tokens.

Oh nice catch! Thank God !

I'm with FGD on this one. I like it combined with SJ - forces you to spend your focus on offense or lose offense. And if you spend your focus on offense, then you lose defense. It's a nice little combo..

But it requires your sensor slot to be taken by SJ and not FCS, so no free TL. It requires your EPT to be taken from Juke, so no dual actions or predator rerolls. It requires your single action to be taken as Evade. So no offensive dice modification. At all. I guess that Juke is kinda an offensive modification by itself by causing you to do an extra damage (if they don't have an focus token).

Herm, how would this couple on Pablo or an A wing with opportunist... I wonder...

Or just this one here. A little expensive but allows you to never spend the Evade and always juke with 3 Dice and an action.

"Red Ace" — T-70 X-Wing 29

R2-D6 1

Comm Relay 3

Juke 2

Integrated Astromech 0

Ship Total: 35

Juke is small ship only. so no Fat han. FFG was smart with this one. However, you might make a play with the K-wing and mira as long as you took golden rod!

Almost certainly why it is small ship only!

not entirely sure how mr blackmoon was supposed to make Juke good without any action efficiency (I mean, I could understand it with FCS and then evade...)

It was moreso the Sensor Jammer & Juke combo.

Shooting at an Academy Pilot for example:

1. Etahn fires 3v3 with Juke - he forces you to use a Focus here unless you want to take a crit

2. Blackmoon fires 3v3 with Juke - you no longer have a Focus and take at least one autocrit

3. AP return fire at 2v3 - except they have Sensor Jammer, you no longer have Focus and they still have evade tokens.

Etahn shoots at AP #1. AP #1 spends token, Etahn does no damage

Blackmoon shoots at AP#1. AP#1 has no token, Blackmoon does 2 damage.

AP #1 shoots at Etahn. SJ kicks in to prevent damage.

AP #2 shoots at Etahn. But he has a focus so no change. Spends evade token to prevent damage.

AP #3 shoots at Etahn. But he has a focus so no change. Takes a damage

AP #4 shoots at Etahn. But he has a focus so no change. Takes a damage

Etahn and Blackmoon are left wondering why they didn't just take a TL and kill AP #1. And save 12 points to put a Z95 of their own in.

Juke is small ship only. so no Fat han. FFG was smart with this one. However, you might make a play with the K-wing and mira as long as you took golden rod!

Almost certainly why it is small ship only!

oh thank the force

we don't need any reason to bring that piece of crap game design back onto the table

Etahn shoots at AP #1. AP #1 spends token, Etahn does no damage

Blackmoon shoots at AP#1. AP#1 has no token, Blackmoon does 2 damage.

AP #1 shoots at Etahn. SJ kicks in to prevent damage.

AP #2 shoots at Etahn. But he has a focus so no change. Spends evade token to prevent damage.

AP #3 shoots at Etahn. But he has a focus so no change. Takes a damage

AP #4 shoots at Etahn. But he has a focus so no change. Takes a damage

Etahn and Blackmoon are left wondering why they didn't just take a TL and kill AP #1. And save 12 points to put a Z95 of their own in.

That's a fair assessment, but that's not what happened in my game and I think you're a bit eager to dismiss Juke with SJ.

Also didn't help that my Howlrunner was using Swarm Tactics and the two PS8 attacks were using their focus tokens on offense, unaware of the consequences. On the first turn of combat, he blew the Swarm Tactic AP up with return fire (2 crits 1 hit).

In hindsight, obviously saving the Focus to defend against Juke is more worthwhile. But let's say you're a higher PS than 3 or 5, it's really hard not to spend Focus on your ships when facing Sensor Jammer. And whichever ship does, it's going to take at least 2 crits in the return fire.

I'm sorry for your loss OP.

One of the nice things about the TLT meta is that it's a slight buff to generic E)Wings as they can use Sensor Jammer.

It was moreso the Sensor Jammer & Juke combo.

Shooting at an Academy Pilot for example:

1. Etahn fires 3v3 with Juke - he forces you to use a Focus here unless you want to take a crit

2. Blackmoon fires 3v3 with Juke - you no longer have a Focus and take at least one autocrit

3. AP return fire at 2v3 - except they have Sensor Jammer, you no longer have Focus and they still have evade tokens.

That's a cute combo.

Now... if only we had another source for Sensor Jammer...

Combo could also fit with B-Wings, if you used the E2 mod and took Jan Ors, or had a Kyle-piloted Moldy Crow with Jan Crew.

Juke is small ship only. so no Fat han. FFG was smart with this one. However, you might make a play with the K-wing and mira as long as you took golden rod!

Double nope on this one. C3PO only gives an evade result, not an evade token, and Miranda (like all K-Wings) does not have the EPT slot needed to take Juke.

It's taken me a day to recover, but I've regained enough strength to spread the word lest it happens to someone else.

His list was:

Blackmoon Squadron Pilot [R2-D6, juke, sensor jammer]

Etahn [R4-D6, juke, sensor jammer]

Tarn Mison [R7 astromech]

For those unfamiliar with Juke:

My list:

Academy Pilot x 3

Howlrunner [hull upgrade, swarm tactics]

Deathrain [conner net, cluster mines, extra munitions, advsen, autothrusters]

I managed to kill Tarn, but aside from Conner Net and Cluster Mine damage, the TIEs were unable to deal any damage to the E-wings which were evading every turn. To be fair, I was running a mini-swarm which might just be the worst matchup for this list since Sensor Jammer was activating 4+ times per round while I relied on green dice for survival and was extremely susceptible to Etahn's ability.

All kidding aside, I don't think this revolutionizes E-wings or anything. But Juke seems to be a really useful card and it was refreshing to see it on two E-wings spamming evade every turn. It will be interesting to see it on some other ships that we may have forgotten about. Personally, I think it could do very well on Fat Hans with Gunner or the Mist Hunter - both are ships that the evade action does a lot defensively, and Juke allows you to maintain some offensive boost for only 2 pts.

Edit: Nevermind. Forgot R2-D6.

Juke is small ship only. so no Fat han. FFG was smart with this one. However, you might make a play with the K-wing and mira as long as you took golden rod!

Jan Ors might also work, but sadly Miranda cant take any EPT

It's not a legal list, so you should need no more time to recover. Juke is an EPT, a slot the Blackmoon doesn't have.

R2-D6 gave him the EPT, as a pilot with a skill higher than PS2.

Small Ships With Evade:

action economy in parenthesis

Rebs

A-wing (A-wing Test Pilot --> PTL)

E-wing (Fire Control System)

Jan Ors Crew (Kyle Katarn HWK)

Red Ace (in red because he's a bad choice for juke; never depend on your opponent for anything)

Imperials

Tie/fo Fighter (comms booster?)

Tie/vanilla Fighter

Tie Advance (double action Vader)

Tie Adv. Prototype (Tie/v1 title)

Tie Interceptor

Tie Phantom (Stygium Particle Accelerator and FCS/Kallus/Gunner etc. wealth of options, but V.I + ACD...)

Isanne (phantom...but that's stupid.)

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Scyk Interceptor ( Laetin...I guess? suffice to say, Scyks are gonna Scyk )

Mist Hunter (K4 security droid or FCS; thing's got a sexy upgrade bar)

Palob (enemy ships with evade; wouldn't recommend depending on your opponent for anything though)

Gotta say, I initially didn't really care much for the Mist Hunter (seemed average enough a ship) but given a Crew and System slot...oh the possibilities !

Yeah as you say its good on FCS/Juke E-E-wings, but probably also on A-Wings with PTL and juke. I imagine it could also revitalize Wes Janson. With all the X-Wing fixes we seem to get he might be goid to take away tokens, then you follow up with Juking A-Wings that essentially punch through despite 2 Red dice only.

Same combo might work on Palob with Tansarii point Veterans with Juke.

Yes, it isn't the same with FCS or Predator, but it's not a bad option. You might suffer from bad dice rolling on occasion. You can also probably spend a turn when you have no target for a TL that you can use later. Not every turn gives you a target to shoot at.

K-wings can take Jan Ors though, which can make their Focus a Juke.

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Scyk Interceptor (Laetin...I guess? suffice to say, Scyks are gonna Scyk )

The only Scyks that can use this are Tansarii Point Veterans and Sirissu. No EPT on Laetin.

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Scyk Interceptor (Laetin...I guess? suffice to say, Scyks are gonna Scyk )

The only Scyks that can use this are Tansarii Point Veterans and Sirissu. No EPT on Laetin.

K-wings can take Jan Ors though, which can make their Focus a Juke.

Still doesn't address their lack of an EPT.

Dammit!

man, if disappointment won games the Scyks would go undefeated

anyway, there's your list. Juke seems to have quite a bit of potential; looking forward to screwing over enemy green dice

Juke is small ship only. so no Fat han. FFG was smart with this one. However, you might make a play with the K-wing and mira as long as you took golden rod!

Double nope on this one. C3PO only gives an evade result, not an evade token, and Miranda (like all K-Wings) does not have the EPT slot needed to take Juke.

I think we were assuming Fat Han has MF title. But again, props to FFG for limiting to small ships. Fat Han evading every turn with Juke & Gunner would have been terrifying.

Same - I'm really excited for this ship.

Even if it reminds me of Dragonball Z vehicles