Deception by ship model colors

By IG88E, in X-Wing

I guess I'm the only one that looks at the bases when making targeting and maneuvering decisions

I run my Boba Fett with the Andrasta Title to throw my opponent into a ranting tilt that causes them to lose for delay of game. works every time.

In my opinion, both players share that responsibility.

If the ship cardboard tile wasn't enough, your opponent could have used number tokens. And if it wasn't clear at any point, it's really your responsibility to ask for clarification.

In this particular case, I don't think deception was the intent since Keyan is in a grey/blue/non-red B-wing on his card.

However, I did run a repainted Kath Scarlett and Boba Fett at Regionals. I think it would have been a bit douchey to have the pilot cards & bases swapped. Stuff like that would bug me. Breaks the theme a bit and it just seems sneaky.

Edited by zerotc

Thats not OCD, thats is embracing the theme. What you do is embracing the model, which is fine, too. That prototype A-Wing is pretty amazing.

No it should be CDO as then the letters are in the correct alphabetical order!

Is there any place where community can share their repaints of X-wing miniatures?

Is there any place where community can share their repaints of X-wing miniatures?

There was, befor the dark times...befor FFG closed the repaints & conversions subforum.

I've tried twice now to set up a 'persistant' thread for everyone to keep repaints in.

The problem is lots of people want their own thread , which stays for a day and gets lost. the collected repaint threads are there but they dissapear now and then then resurface.

If everyone used the same one it would be on the frontpage every time. :(

Is there any place where community can share their repaints of X-wing miniatures?

There was, befor the dark times...befor FFG closed the repaints & conversions subforum.

It makes me wonder if that was a Disney call, you know with the converting old X-wing to the new one and everything. FFG might have been afraid that will push Disney to send some cease and deist orders, what do you think?

I think the intention is key here.

Does he do it to actively confuse the other player? Is he likely not to mention it before the game?=> Obviously not fair play to me...

Does he feel the pilots should fly the other vessel or jsut mixes them around all the time? Does he tell you before the game and is open to you asking who is who? => Fair play.

Of course this is everything but easy to know. he can tell you whatever he wants if you ask him about it. Still the answer to your question lies in his intentions.

Edited by CaineHoA

Is there any place where community can share their repaints of X-wing miniatures?

There was, befor the dark times...befor FFG closed the repaints & conversions subforum.

It makes me wonder if that was a Disney call, you know with the converting old X-wing to the new one and everything. FFG might have been afraid that will push Disney to send some cease and deist orders, what do you think?

Well, T-70 and T-65 are different ships - I hope this was not the case....

Repaints are great part of this game, sad that FFG doesn't support it.

So any idea guys, where I can put my repaints to share them with you?

Edited by PadrePadre

Is there any place where community can share their repaints of X-wing miniatures?

There was, befor the dark times...befor FFG closed the repaints & conversions subforum.

It makes me wonder if that was a Disney call, you know with the converting old X-wing to the new one and everything. FFG might have been afraid that will push Disney to send some cease and deist orders, what do you think?

Well, T-70 and T-65 are different ships - I hope this was not the case....

Repaints are great part of this game, sad that FFG doesn't support it.

So any idea guys, where I can put my repaints to share them with you?

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/182942-the-concisecollected-repaints-thread-keep-them-all-here-keep-em-visible/The thread Gadge mentioned.

Now for another thing, I plan to make a Y-Wing repaint with red markings. Is it douchey if I run that specificaly not as the one with R3-A2 so people focus on the signal color and my stress monster lives longer? Or is it just a minor bit of color psychology that won't throw of someone who is paying attention?

Edited by Admiral Deathrain

I had an opponent once with Carnor Jax and Soontir. Soontir was in a Royal Guard ship, Carnor was with the 181st (or whatever the red stripe is called). I confused them once or twice during the game, but I think it's totally my fault.

Yes it's perfectly legal; although that is a little tricksey on their part. That does not bother me at all, but a person might get confused once if he looks at the card art and assumes that to be the "right" color for the model in play. Anyway everyone KNOWS red ones go fasta! :D

Repaints are great part of this game, sad that FFG doesn't support it.

While they did eliminate that sub-forum they didn't delete posts. It's possible that Disney asked them to get rid of it but it's also possible that FFG's legal team recommended getting rid of it. Either way it seems almost entirely related to being in compliance with the terms of their license.

If you go look at the video that FFG shot from Gencon you will see that it is filled with shots of repaints that they filmed from the X-Wing National Championship.

It definitely seems like a straight up legal issue and that they would be thrilled to support it if they could. That's the way it seems to me anyway.

I daresay mixing models between unique and generic is smart play. It's a strategy, and you still have access to who is who if you're paying attention (you should be paying attention).

It's a strategy, and you still have access to who is who if you're paying attention (you should be paying attention).

Yes you should.

If someone is trying to be deceptive then that tells me they aren't confident in themselves or their list and that they need to resort to something like that to get an advantage.

That being said, regardless of what your opponent does, you should absolutely clarify before the match which ship is which. If there could be any question it's your responsibility to know or ask if it isn't clear.

You should also be paying attention at setup. That would clearly inform you of who is who if a red paint scheme B-Wing is setting up with the PS 2's and a blue paint scheme B-Wing is setting up with 7's or 9's.

If someone pulls one over on you because you didn't ask and you weren't paying attention to base tokens or setup then it's your own fault.

Is there any place where community can share their repaints of X-wing miniatures?

X-Wing Miniatures Mods and Repaints. Search for the it on Facebook. Just hit 3,000 members

Nothing wrong with setting up your opponent to make mistakes due to his assumptions. All the info they need is right there in front of them.

I usually match up specific models I have with specific pilots, such as giving Jake the prototype A-Wing and Tycho the normal red A-Wing. I figure it makes sense thematically, and makes it easier for both players to keep track.

Once though, just to annoy one specific guy in my local meta, I deliberately switched the two A-Wing models, so the pilot overlays on the stands were still correct but Jake/Tycho were flying the opposite colored A-Wing as usual. He was rather surprised when "Tycho" boosted into range one for a Procket with a Target Lock and Focus, while "Jake" took an Evade and Focus on the same turn while he still had a stress on him...

I've been running multipleY-Wing lists since well before TLT was a thing, and all of my Y-Wings have unique paint schemes, but this isn't usually an issue since these are typically all generics.

Lmao my friend painted the letters B and C on his IG'S and will have painted b IG actually be on the Ig c cardboard. #scumplayers

I feel no shame in asking at the beginning of every Combat Phase: "Which one is Howlrunner, again?"

I feel no shame in asking at the beginning of every Combat Phase: "Which one is Howlrunner, again?"

As i Feel no shame in running Boba Fett with the andrasta Title for added tilt.

Repaints are great part of this game, sad that FFG doesn't support it.

I dunno - other than seemingly being required to get rid of the sub-forum (the same thing happened with Imperial Assault the same day so something was definitely up) - I wouldn't go so far as to say they don't support it.

You can still play in official tournaments with modified ships and they don't delete threads that pop up regarding mods and painting, nor did the old ones go away. We just lost the handy container for those conversations (which as said often at the time makes zero sense)

Edited by nathankc

So if you put a Blue Squadron pilot on a red base would that subterfuge confuse the enemy? :P

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...A lot of people who fly two generic ships with the same baseplate use a different model for one of them to help keep track of which is which during the flurry of the game, if you can't be bothered to check the baseplates then that is your problem.

Lmao my friend painted the letters B and C on his IG'S and will have painted b IG actually be on the Ig c cardboard. #scumplayers

This I would call shenanigans on because that is deliberately trying to confuse the opponent.