I wouldn't think that the two would fit together simply because it will cause too much wear on the models. X-Wing minis are fairly sturdy for as delicate as they are, and the paint is fairly robust too, but docking and launching the Phantom over and over is going to strip off paint and start wearing off wing detail pretty quickly.

I doubt they fit together, but I imagine it is more due to cost. Now if I played rebels I absolutely would magnetize them and dock/undock all the flipping time. You may have to repaint occasionally, but with a matte sealant it should be fine, besides if the paint scuffs it adds some character (and the docking coolness factor far outweighs scuffed paint). When I get my Gozanti I will have to magnetize it so I can dock my fighters

The Gozanti is already capable of carrying fighters. We know that. It was in the announcement.

The K-Wing is capable of dropping a bomb after moving and then SLAM away. It was in the announcement.

OH WAIT....

All my fighters are magnetized, so I will have to magnetize the gozanti if I want them to dock, as they can't go on normal pegs anymore.

Cool.

The K-Wing is capable of dropping a bomb after moving and then SLAM away. It was in the announcement.

OH WAIT....

and your point is ?

The K-Wing is capable of dropping a bomb after moving and then SLAM away. It was in the announcement.

OH WAIT....

and your point is ?

My point is that stuff that is announced can just be not true, like the case with the K-Wing where we got misinformed by the announcment!

The K-Wing is capable of dropping a bomb after moving and then SLAM away. It was in the announcement.

OH WAIT....

and your point is ?

My point is that stuff that is announced can just be not true, like the case with the K-Wing where we got misinformed by the announcment!

Difference being the ship has been physically seen in public with this feature.

The Ghost expansion includes a bottle of super glue and a hammer. To facilitate the combining and separating of the 2 ships with ease.

Making the Phantom dock with the Ghost is an order of magnitude different than docking the TIEs with the Gozanti.

The shuttle would have to have retractable wings to fit, and a method of snapping securely into place, repeatedly, without potential damage to either model. And the retractable wings on a ship that size are just not practical as they'd be wafer-thin and very easy to break.

If you look at the picture of the Gozanti you can get a pretty good idea of how they are designing the docking for the TIEs, which is actually pretty ingenious.

Observe. Now in this pic, I believe it looks - although you can't see for sure - like the TIEs are mounted upside down, as I expected, even though in the show the TIEs mount with the top towards the cruiser (so that they can go through the connecting tunnel and straight into the cockpit. The TIEs are almost certainly going to connect to the model upside-down for one very simple reason: their easiest point of connection is on the bottom of the model - the clear slot the flight peg connects to.

The key to this design is shown here in a good look at the expansion pack components. Note the grey pieces shown in the bottom left:

You can barely make out in the first picture that it is the rounded bevel (the part they're sitting on, in the second picture) that connects to the TIEs. Here's how I can almost guarantee you that's going to work. The end of the grey connector that has the rounded lip will have either a hole which the peg on the bottom of the TIE plugs into, or will be recessed and have a flight stand-sized peg that plugs into the TIE's base. One or the other.

The underside of the Gozanti's 'wings' will have a slot that fits the raised rectangle on the 'top' of the grey connecting pieces. By the look of it you'll plug it into the slot and then rotate it about a half turn to lock it into the model. Once that's connected you plug the TIE upside down into the bottom of the grey connector and voila - underslung TIEs.

They'll look a little weird, being upside down, but it was the only cheap, easy way to hang a bunch of TIEs from the Gozanti as shown in the show.
Yep, see - definitely upside down, or you'd be able to see the chin lasers on the TIE.


My point being, this was a very simple and elegant solution to connect the two ships together. The tube connecting the ship to the cockpit of the fighter made a perfect piece to use as a physical joiner of the two miniatures. There's just no shortcut like that to make the Phantom dock with the Ghost - MAYBE if the wings were removable, but that's an easy to lose part - and even then the chin guns on the Phantom would snap off the first time you tried to plug it in to the Ghost.

That's an entirely different order of engineering you're talking about, Toq.

I think you might have meant someone else. I never said the Ghost and Phantom were "dockable"

I think you're right.

That's an entirely different order of engineering you're talking about, Toq.

The shuttle would have to have retractable wings to fit, and a method of snapping securely into place, repeatedly, without potential damage to either model. And the retractable wings on a ship that size are just not practical as they'd be wafer-thin and very easy to break.

If you look at the picture of the Gozanti you can get a pretty good idea of how they are designing the docking for the TIEs, which is actually pretty ingenious.

Observe. Now in this pic, I believe it looks - although you can't see for sure - like the TIEs are mounted upside down, as I expected, even though in the show the TIEs mount with the top towards the cruiser (so that they can go through the connecting tunnel and straight into the cockpit. The TIEs are almost certainly going to connect to the model upside-down for one very simple reason: their easiest point of connection is on the bottom of the model - the clear slot the flight peg connects to.

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If this is the case add another to why magnets rock. The ones that I inset into my ships have enough flux through the model itself to actually hold the model to another magnet at the top. So my ties can actually be the right way with the hatch connecting to the docking tube

That would be interesting to see - although you'd presumably lose the detail of the TIE's cockpit hatch, right? That's where you'd have to drill it out and put in a magnet. I'd be curious to see a pic of what one of them looks like.

I imagine the other reason they did them upside down is that it holds them securely while also hiding the little plastic bit on the bottom of the model, breaking the aesthetic, but suspect that was a pretty minor secondary consideration behind the more practical reasons.

That would be interesting to see - although you'd presumably lose the detail of the TIE's cockpit hatch, right? That's where you'd have to drill it out and put in a magnet. I'd be curious to see a pic of what one of them looks like.

I imagine the other reason they did them upside down is that it holds them securely while also hiding the little plastic bit on the bottom of the model, breaking the aesthetic, but suspect that was a pretty minor secondary consideration behind the more practical reasons.

Nope, I put powerful magnets through the bottom like so (green represents the magnets):

There is enough flux through the mini to attract them to another magnet over the hatch and hold it there against gravity.

The K-Wing is capable of dropping a bomb after moving and then SLAM away. It was in the announcement.

OH WAIT....

and your point is ?

My point is that stuff that is announced can just be not true, like the case with the K-Wing where we got misinformed by the announcment!

Difference being the ship has been physically seen in public with this feature.

Yeah the K-Wing was even in an illustration shown to do this. It's still in the FFG News. And still it can't. Got ruled after everyone bought the ship XD

After all they could just have glued the darn Ties to the bottom of the Gozanti for the exposition.

So I just have become a little more suspicious when it comes to announcments lately. Especially real cool stuff like this! That's what i was saying with my post.

The Phantom's wings don't retract, it's worse than that. They fold in multiple places and wrap around the fuselage before it slots in. No way the model is duplicating this behavior.

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The Phantom docks and deploys from the Ghost when both are flying around all the time. I believe they've docked mid-dogfight in the Season 2 premiere. I don't think engine exhaust burn in Star Wars is a thing.

I believe damage from engine exhaust was invented sometime after the battle of Yavin. It was created in order to prevent a single fighter aircraft from flying right up to the engine exhaust of a star destroyer (outside the arc of it's guns), matching it's speed, and pewpewing away with impunity until the Star Destroyer was gone.

If you don't believe me, just play the X-wing series of games for PC.

What was the problem with the K-Wing?

Hopefully they do it like Mel miniatures where it comes with two versions of shuttle, the small one being already docked in the preview photo.... Yes, yes, I am aware at how this probs wont happen!!

Yeah the K-Wing was even in an illustration shown to do this. It's still in the FFG News. And still it can't. Got ruled after everyone bought the ship XD

After all they could just have glued the darn Ties to the bottom of the Gozanti for the exposition.

So I just have become a little more suspicious when it comes to announcments lately. Especially real cool stuff like this! That's what i was saying with my post.

Your bitterness over the SLAM ruling is childish. The people who generally write the articles are not the rules guys. Mistakes can happen.

Omg there is a shuttle attached!! I only just noticed this! Look at the reveal picture that shows everything you get in the box, and you can see the tip of the shuttle poking out at the back. Gosh I hope this means that it comes with a small docked shuttle peice.

Yeah the K-Wing was even in an illustration shown to do this. It's still in the FFG News. And still it can't. Got ruled after everyone bought the ship XD

After all they could just have glued the darn Ties to the bottom of the Gozanti for the exposition.

So I just have become a little more suspicious when it comes to announcments lately. Especially real cool stuff like this! That's what i was saying with my post.

Your bitterness over the SLAM ruling is childish. The people who generally write the articles are not the rules guys. Mistakes can happen.

I don't care what which guy from FFG does what, but they should keep the promises they make as a corporation. There was not even an apology to the thousands of customers for this.

If you just accept that, your problem. They might do it again then with a product you bought a lot of. And then you might understand me.

but just out of curiosity you can play with only the shuttle or the mother ship. You don't have to have both do you?

The Phantom has a points cost, and upgrade slots of it's own, so you can use it without taking the Ghost.

they could use magnets to dock...

Yeah the K-Wing was even in an illustration shown to do this. It's still in the FFG News. And still it can't. Got ruled after everyone bought the ship XD

After all they could just have glued the darn Ties to the bottom of the Gozanti for the exposition.

So I just have become a little more suspicious when it comes to announcments lately. Especially real cool stuff like this! That's what i was saying with my post.

Your bitterness over the SLAM ruling is childish. The people who generally write the articles are not the rules guys. Mistakes can happen.

Well since the price of a K-Wing that does not work as advertised is not at all childish you can stick your judgment where you like.

I don't care what which guy from FFG does what, but they should keep the promises they make as a corporation. There was not even an apology to the thousands of customers for this.

If you just accept that, your problem. They might do it again then with a product you bought a lot of. And then you might understand me.

It is childish because you are bringing up your greivances in an unrelated thread.

If you just accept that, your problem. They might do it again then with a product you bought a lot of. And then you might understand me.

Like the TIE phantom?

You're not entitled to an advantage because you bought a ship. Balance gets moved up and down. They're in all rights to, say, ban C-3PO from tournaments if they wanted to¹: the people who bought CR90s aren't entitled to an advantage for doing so.

The Wave 1 TIE advanced article said that, if you put ordnance on the TIE/x1, that it's a "devastating war machine." It's not. The Kihraxz article involved equipping Graz The Hunter with an EPT. The K-wing article involved SLAMing maneuvers that weren't on its dial. Are these also so-called betrayals that must be reversed?

^{1: For purposes of example only, I don't personally think he's some sort of god card.}