phantom duplicate prototype definition wild goose chases are FUN
currently have all ships with working arcs (though there's a bug with the ARC-170's aux arc that I cannot for the life of me figure out, it's offset 1-2px up and neither changing the offset in the layer properties or in the actual arc image will fix it) and actions (could probably trim evade from some bars but it's easier to future-proof vs upgrades).
not looking forward to ship art, I am not an artist
Edited by TipperaryBest of luck on that front
And it makes less than zero sense for Jedi to be on the same side as the Empire.It makes zero sense for empire to use separatist ships they just fought a galaxy wide conflict against them, don't you think it'd raise some really awkward questions?
Plus the Canon books put republic ships in empire hands.
So who were the Jedi serving under during the war? Oh that's right a Sith Lord.
The republic and the empire are just before and after shots of the same thing, the galactic government.
The empire didn't use separatist ships in its infancy it used republic ships.
Hey, I had an idea for the small base ships!
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_Mantis
It's on the cusp of a large base, BUT, if it IS a large base, then it's interesting because it can take an Astromech.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sigil_%28starfighter%29If the other one isn't small enough, there's always this.
...Or, you could just use a Z-95, as well.
^I actually mentioned the Guardian Mantis earlier, it's a neat ship, the issue is mostly pilots.
The Sigil, on the other hand, has both a lack of pirates and looks like it would fall apart the first time it engaged thrusters.
I don't really want to clone the Y or Z, the Firespray is pushing it as-is.
Fair point. But in regards to the pilots, you could make up two generics and make up yet another "generic" ala TFA Core Set.
I think 2 overlapping ships is fine in the grander context of things since it's not even the same faction getting too many "normal" ships.
Fair point. But in regards to the pilots, you could make up two generics and make up yet another "generic" ala TFA Core Set.
Depends on whether Guardian Mantis is a large ship or not. The question I'd ask is if, given external references for canopy size, is the 22m length measured with the wings folded fully back? If it is, it's a small ship, but if 22m is nose-to-nozzles, it's large.
If it's large, it needs 1 made-up named pilot (I'd do Vana Sage and Reti for named pilots), which is harder than making up 2 generics if it's small.
I think 2 overlapping ships is fine in the grander context of things since it's not even the same faction getting too many "normal" ships.
Maybe, maybe.
clone Zs make me puke and the covered Y is uglier than the panel-less Y because the CW artists were AWFUL at designing "new" ships as opposed to translating existing designs (I think the only passable case was the Hyena).
Oi, I like the Clone Wars Y-Wing, but the CW Z-95 can ROT IN FREAKIN' HELL.
It should be noted that the old Y-Wing has different attributes. Notably that it could take a crew without question, but it would be a bit fatter and have at LEAST one more hull point. It'd be a good ship!
As for the Mantis, yes- I think that would indeed be 22m folded back.
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/f9/Mantis_swsf.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20071127213541
^one thing you might notice is that I've completely cut the turret-slot thanks to the aux-arc rule and not having the Y-Wing, it just makes one more thing I don't have to try to balance.
Managed to find a great source for ship-token art (unusualsuspex.deviantart.com), so that's one problem down, just have to make a move-card template and the VASSAL extension is pretty much in the bag.
I still think ignoring the Clone Wars Y-Wing is a considerable mistake, given their presence in the Clone Wars series as an extremely important fighter, that would offer better armor and a crew slot- which the modern Y-wing, amazingly, STILL doesn't have. (and yet, we get the B-Wing E2..?)
Just be sure that you get an OK from the artist.
They probably don't give a **** but it never hurts.
I still think ignoring the Clone Wars Y-Wing is a considerable mistake, given their presence in the Clone Wars series as an extremely important fighter, that would offer better armor and a crew slot- which the modern Y-wing, amazingly, STILL doesn't have. (and yet, we get the B-Wing E2..?)
Y-wing with crew would give it too much mechanical overlap with the HWK. The E2 uses the crew in a way very different from a HWK so it is fine.
In the context of this game, who knows?
their presence in the Clone Wars series
This is basically irrelevant. I might be using TCW stuff for card art, but I honestly could not care less for the series. Plus, crew-slot Y makes a gap for people to whine about an Ahsoka card, which I will categorically never do.
Just be sure that you get an OK from the artist.
They probably don't give a **** but it never hurts.
Already did (if I was an unscrupulous huttwad they would have been posted last night), extension will have credits.
e: gotta find the proper Eurostile variant for the ship-name (at least I think it's still a Eurostile variant), but otherwise ref-cards are licked.
Do you HAVE to include Naboo??
Sorry, not a fan of Naboo Ships, but the rest looks pretty good.
The N1 is a lovely ship.
And there is a lack of ships, it has a place to fill.
Edited by Wilhelm ScreamerThe N1 is a lovely ship.
And there is a lack of ships, it has a place to fill.
Each to their own, but IMO with the exception of some of the EU ships, the N1 is the ugliest thing they've ever designed in Star Wars.
The only way I'm going to entice my wife to play is if she gets a Naboo ship. I'm not arguing either. They are elegant!!
Do you HAVE to include Naboo??
Sorry, not a fan of Naboo Ships, but the rest looks pretty good.
Each to their own, but IMO with the exception of some of the EU ships, the N1 is the ugliest thing they've ever designed in Star Wars.
BRUSH YOUR TEETH
(also an entire bottle of listerine)
(I've already excluded the ugliest ship, that being the G-9 Rigger)
The N1 is a lovely ship.
And there is a lack of ships, it has a place to fill.
Even if there were plenty of ships it would still be one of (if not THE) first of my ship choices. Thing is an work of art.
Do you HAVE to include Naboo??
Sorry, not a fan of Naboo Ships, but the rest looks pretty good.
Each to their own, but IMO with the exception of some of the EU ships, the N1 is the ugliest thing they've ever designed in Star Wars.BRUSH YOUR TEETH
(also an entire bottle of listerine)
(I've already excluded the ugliest ship, that being the G-9 Rigger)
The N1 is a lovely ship.
And there is a lack of ships, it has a place to fill.
Even if there were plenty of ships it would still be one of (if not THE) first of my ship choices. Thing is an work of art.
Personally, I'd detach personal taste from designing this. But that's just me.
Maybe, but can we all agree that the primary issue with the prequels was a rampant lack of quality control?
To an extent, yes. But the quality of the ships are barely up for debate. Many of the designs from The Prequels are absolutely fantastic.
A then-modern Y-Wing with extra pride and power was really quite the sight. Bigger guns, manned turret, extra armor? Thing was really something else. A then-revolutionary development in Starfighter design. A Squadron of Y-Wings alone is responsible for a long range strike against The Malevolence- the first historical event truly defined by the fighter.
It has a long and storied history that continues with The Rebellion. They're not only used because they're cheap. They're used because they're incredible fighters, even up to The Battle of Endor.
I say, up the armor, add a crew, and give it one more bit of firepower. Then price it high, but don't give it an incredible dial. All that extra weight will make it slower and just, overall more sluggish than an older Y-Wing.
I believe it's earned its place as The Republic's E-Wing.
>the Republic's E-Wing
That's an interesting way to look at it.
let me just toss this out:
BTL-B Y-Wing:
_/ /_
R/ /R
_/R/W/W/W/R/_
_/R/W/G/W/R/_
_/_/W/G/W/_
The problem I see is that the 360 turret is really the only thing separating it from the ARC-170.
Both have crew+astro, both are fairly tough (though the ARC has it in AGI rather than H/S), both have meh dials, both carry torps (though I guess the Y has bombs going for it, but with that dial...)
Part of the reason the seppies don't have the Mankvim is that I felt giving them a pair of 12pt swarm fighters was a bit redundant, the same mostly applies here.
Edited by TipperaryHmm. Alright, a fair point. Then how about this? One of the two ships could take a cannon slot. Whichever would benefit, up to you. The Y-Wing would benefit more if its firepower remained at 2- making cannons much more appealing.
Only problem is the Y doesn't have anything like a cannon slot, the ions are turreted.
I think he meant for the ARC.
That might screw with the pricing though, since being able to even use a cannon is worth a lot points wise.