He has attacked Christians

He has attacked homophobes, and while you may believe the two things are indistinguishable, they are not.

He said any SW fan going too social media and complain about SW is no longer a SW fan. Also people giving his book a bad review because you like Legends = kicked from fandom.

Another lie. Cite or acknowledge that at best you are simply repeating things you were told.

Excuse me, I will point out that different denominations interpret the Holy Scriptures in different ways, Homosextuals are welcome in the Roman Catholic Church and their plenty that are Priests. Grouping every Denomination together and declaring them all "Homophobes" is a big no no.

As for the "Another Lie" comment you made heres my reference.

gofish

Nowhere have I found he has attacked Christians or any other religion for that matter.

He might have been harsh towards some cirtics, but the critics were harsh too.

When two people fight, two people are to blame...

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Your more civil, I will send you the references in a PM.

Whether the author is a cool guy or a jerk is not the point. I know someone who doesn't listen to Johnny Cash because "he wasn't a nice person" in their opinion. Might be true, I don't know, but I just enjoy the music. Same person enjoyed Elton John music, but "went off his music" when they found out he was gay. Why? The music didn't change. Please don't be "that person" who refuses to even consider a book because there's a gay character or the author is a moron.

Personally, I'm not getting the book because more are saying how terrible the writing and plot are. I don't want to spend money on a book that even Star Wars fans hate, and hate for valid reasons.

I have to disagree somewhat with your point. I think it depends on what the creator/s do in real life and how quote unquote offensive their actions are in real life. I think its wrong to support someones work when that person is very hostile towards you and our your culture, I mean real offensive, their a difference between Sir, Elton John and say Tommy Yune from Robotech. If you don't like his stuff you would be banned very quickly from the Robotech forums. Thats not so bad, but he would give his fans your personal id, email address, maybe your ip, and encourage those people to stalk and attack the ex-members on any website they were on, even the ex-members family members were fair game.

Now if you knew the writer for a story was like this towards people who didn't like their work would you still support them by buying their stuff? To me Chuck is almost as bad as Tommy Yune, but he is certainly in the category for people I will not support because of their demeanor This will be the last thing I say about "Creator Personality" or Politics as a reason for not buying a product.

ps I doesn't help that people that support him have twisted the actions of Legends fans to make them look bad. One reviewer / possible Chuck buddy said a Legends Group stormed the Dragon Con Rebels panel, that they were not fans anymore but had the minds of terrorists.

I think we're all fortunate the Scott Card's writing quality plummeted the more politically disturbing he became. Had he put out books as good as Ender's Game but was still working for anti marriage groups, we might have had a dilemma on our hands.

Yeah it's not like magic or dem pokkymons where you buy a few hundred boosters and part it out the list of high demand cards is short and no one's going to buy a falcon without the engine upgrade.

Space battle riritated me though. Some frigates managed to deafeat 3 SDs.

What's so bad about that? Hell I've taken on Three or Four ISD strong groups with Frigate and Corvette forces in Rebellion and EAW and won plus done similar things in the RPG many times.

In general I dislike books written with such a havy deux ex machina involvement

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Yeah one on one a frigate will lose to an ISD but like you said we don't know how many ships got sent. Also I would be cautious about assuming they were Nebulon-Bs unless the book identified them as such.

IMO when an author faces criticism and actually responds beyond "I'm sorry that you didn't like it" then he's not cut out for the job. It's been a relative recent trend to be more inclusive be it the authors prerogative or other. This isn't a bad thing until you see a rush of it from less talented authors were it comes across as forced or lazy because they aren't good at making it appear natural. Unless there is good character background then a characters sexuality is essentially an on/off toggle to create a bad subplot, force a joke, or attempt to add depth that isn't there.

the problem i had with was that it was kind of disjuctured? (new word i just made up?) too many subplots going on and the interludes didnt help. and then the slightly forced LGBT issues which had no bearing on the plot or charater developent at all.. its like it was put in just to say hey look at me i am gay yes we have gay people in Starwars now deal with it ok back to the story juke left/punch to the helmet/ kick to the face blah blah blah.. made my point.. I could really care less what a persons sexual identy is, and you don't have to tell me about it ..I mean in the rogue squadron books we have interspecies sex which I think was even more taboo but it was part of the character development. overall it was an ok read better than lost stars!!! Lost stars is like a romance book with out the "Good parts" but it does mention the "Raider" in it so it makes it canon!!lol

i don't remember anything about the Imperial Raider in Aftermath.

i don't remember anything about the Imperial Raider in Aftermath.

He was referring to Lost Stars.

the problem i had with was that it was kind of disjuctured? (new word i just made up?) too many subplots going on and the interludes didnt help. and then the slightly forced LGBT issues which had no bearing on the plot or charater developent at all.. its like it was put in just to say hey look at me i am gay yes we have gay people in Starwars now deal with it ok back to the story juke left/punch to the helmet/ kick to the face blah blah blah.. made my point.. I could really care less what a persons sexual identy is, and you don't have to tell me about it ..I mean in the rogue squadron books we have interspecies sex which I think was even more taboo but it was part of the character development. overall it was an ok read better than lost stars!!! Lost stars is like a romance book with out the "Good parts" but it does mention the "Raider" in it so it makes it canon!!lol

Someone mentioned the raider from Lost Stars in another topic but the quote they used referred to an imperial raider. That doesn't mean it is a Raider class vessel and if it is it has an incredibly heavy armament for a ship its size. The most guns I've ever seen on a Star Wars corvette class in fact.

There were police coming to arrest people who were destorying palpatines statue. A few stormtroopers shot into a violent crowd who was throwing rocks, but their commander reprimanded them and told them to stop. Honestly This book almost paints the Empire as a supremely GOOD force with like 3 or 4 mentally ill people who do some of the talking.

they're not good, they're still fighting to support a horriable system. but at the same time they're not all EVIL. Imperials are people. likewise, you're absolutely right, we're seeing not all rebels are completly clean white hats. there is shades of grey in this. when you describes the Rebels are terrorists. you are One Hundred Percent right. The Rebel Alliance was an unlawful terrorist orginization, engaged in an illegal insurgancy against the legitimate galatic government. Civilians died in rebel attacks. and yes the book clearly shows warning signs the New Republic may be making mistakes (I'd argue the book shows us very clearly why the first order seems to be in charge by time the new movies come about) the Second Death Star, for example, was under construction. I garentee you slave workers and civilian contracters died as a result of the rebel victory at endor

Actually they aren't terrorist unless you use a definition of terrorism that considers every armed rebellion known to man terrorism. The Empire on the other hand is clearly a terrorist state from A New Hope. Tarkin himself admits that Alderaan isn't a military target in the film and the he destroyed Alderaan to spread terror of the Death Star to other worlds thus making the destruction of Alderaan a blatant terrorist act.

And the odds of their being any civilian workers on the Death Star II is pretty slim. The whole point of the project was to full the rebels into thinking it wasn't operational and using civilian workers would make that much harder when they could just use Imperial military engineers and droids.

Errr alderan was the main financial backer of the rebels so a perfectly legit target.

I mean you didn't avoid bombing Bagdad because there were civilians there did you?

"Someone mentioned the raider from Lost Stars in another topic but the quote they used referred to an imperial raider. That doesn't mean it is a Raider class vessel and if it is it has an incredibly heavy armament for a ship its size. The most guns I've ever seen on a Star Wars corvette class in fact.​" If I remember correctly they said it had 20 guns and was used to support ties.. Sounds like THE raider to me? although I don't know about the guns? sounds like it (the Raider) was an anti fighter weapon.

20 guns is incredibly heavy for a vessel the Size of a Raider even if 6 of those are anti-fighter/point-defense mounts like the Raider has been stated to carry that's 14 Ion Cannons and Turbolasers (The Raider is stated to carry 6 Dual Heavy Laser mounts, and an unknown number of Ion Cannons and Turbolasers) Most ships in her size range in the GCW era max out around 10 guns with the single highest amount I've seen at anything close to her size being 18 and that's classed as a small frigate/gunship rather then a corvette.

Also I never meant it was impossible for it to be a Raider either. I apologize if it came off that way. But based on the armament and how the sentence is worded in the book I don't think we should count the ship from Lost Stars as a Raider class ship without more evidence to back that theory up.

From what I was told the ship in question is referred to in the book as a "20 gun raider". To me that sounds like a description of the ship's role and weapons load out rather then a statement of what class she belongs to.

could be small anti fighter guns? who knows.. also said it was in the atmosphere or eluded to that.

In the new canon its seems pretty much any ship can function in atmosphere up to and including Imperial-class Star Destroyers.

In the new canon its seems pretty much any ship can function in atmosphere up to and including Imperial-class Star Destroyers.

And why not? Even the Executor class can be launched from a planetary surface in the old Xwing novels. With antigravity tech being ubiquitous on even the most backwoods worlds, I think capital ships could transfer enough power to repulsor lift engines to land in earth-equivalent Gravity wells.

In the new canon its seems pretty much any ship can function in atmosphere up to and including Imperial-class Star Destroyers.

And why not? Even the Executor class can be launched from a planetary surface in the old Xwing novels. With antigravity tech being ubiquitous on even the most backwoods worlds, I think capital ships could transfer enough power to repulsor lift engines to land in earth-equivalent Gravity wells.

That said... Meh. Don't care. I'm waiting for one to deploy wheels in a tail dragger arrangement and land on some kind of runway. Why? Because. That's why.

Yeah landing would be possible but taking off would take much, much more power for a ship the size of an SSD then anything else. I'm still not sure why one would land a ship the size of a Star Destroyer then have to burn the power needed to launch it except in a case like the SSD in question, namely a high ranking officer or official's getaway vehicle.

Even ties have repulsor lift engines and they are as bare bones as you get, antigrav isn't a big deal in star wars.

Again the smaller a vehicle is the less power is needed for the repulsors to lift them so lifting a fighter is easy. Lifting a Star Destroyer or similr vessel takes a lot more energy and in most cases probably isn't considered to be worth the effort even if the ship is equipped to do so.

Power generation for a star destroyer isn't a big deal. It can generate enough weapons output to reduce the entire surface of a planet to molten rock (base delta zero initiative). Also the energy to operate the hyperdrive on an ISD is said to be greater than the power output of some planets, although I don't know how that's possible. Landing and taking off should be possible even for these large craft, although as had been said earlier in this thread it would be a waste of resources. There's plenty of shuttles and transports that can move crew and cargo from orbit to planetary surfaces and back.

I didn't read all the posa in this thread, but I just hqve to chime in. I only got past 120 pages or so yesterday, but I think I'm going to stop there. I absolutely hate it. It doesn't feel like Star Wars. I've seen reviewers say it's like a poor piece of fan-fiction. That's exactly right. The writing style is so jarring, I can't even get into the story. Honestly, Aftermath and Lost Stars are 10 times as bad as the prequels. No, the prequels are even better than that. I'll watch Jar Jar say "pee-yousa" at a flatulent eeopie over reading this garbage story. I am so incredibly disappointed with the direction of the new Star Wars. I'm just gonna go back and read my 90s stories. Seriously, it's so bad I may never read another new Star Wars novel again. And if TFA is anything like these, I may give up my Star Wars fan-hood.

And why the heck are they putting sex scenes and references to venereal diseases in Star Wars books? That's just gross and immature.

The writer is trying to say the hate comes from him introducing gay characters, but I don't buy that honestly nerds are the least likely group to hold a bigoted view due to being fairly secular.

It's just like me3 trying to shame critics into being quiet.

Check the comments section on any review site or youtube video, nerds are some of the most hateful people around. Comments usually revolve around writers 'forcing the liberal/gay agenda'.

Considering that 1) you don't find out that the particular character is gay until about 95% of the way through the story and 2) it had absolutely no bearing on the story at all, I find it hard to believe the book is pushing any political agenda at all. Well, except the "authoritarian governments are bad" agenda. But I think we can all get behind that one.

I give the book 3 stars out of 5. Is it going to change your life? No. Is it utter garbage? No. I put it on par with Harry Potter.

I didn't read all the posa in this thread, but I just hqve to chime in. I only got past 120 pages or so yesterday, but I think I'm going to stop there. I absolutely hate it. It doesn't feel like Star Wars. I've seen reviewers say it's like a poor piece of fan-fiction. That's exactly right. The writing style is so jarring, I can't even get into the story. Honestly, Aftermath and Lost Stars are 10 times as bad as the prequels. No, the prequels are even better than that. I'll watch Jar Jar say "pee-yousa" at a flatulent eeopie over reading this garbage story. I am so incredibly disappointed with the direction of the new Star Wars. I'm just gonna go back and read my 90s stories. Seriously, it's so bad I may never read another new Star Wars novel again. And if TFA is anything like these, I may give up my Star Wars fan-hood.

And why the heck are they putting sex scenes and references to venereal diseases in Star Wars books? That's just gross and immature.

I don't remember this from the book. Then again I don't remember a whole lot besides central themes because the book was not that memorable.

Wasn't Han trying o get into Leia's pants the entire OT? Ditto for Lando?