Ok, so this topic is a bit out of left field for these forums. I hope it's not to far-off-Topic but it was a question I've been wondering, with the tidbits I've looked at for Episode VII. I've been trying hard not to spoil the movie for myself so I rarely look at leak sites and what not. With the Cannon striping we obviously know ***k-all about the state of the Galaxy after this some 25 year time laps (not something I mind, I think the EU was bloated with too many writers with their own ideas of what the galaxies should look like after the battle). So far aside from the 'Aftermath' book which gives a little to no real description of the Galaxy at large following the Battle of Endor, I'm left to wonder what happened to the Rebel Alliance's Goals.

Obviously since I'm here, Armada is important to me. So seeing the images of the New Order Star Destroyer are great, however other than an X-Wing, I've seen nothing about new ships for the 'good' guys (I'm an Imperial player, but the Rebels still hold a place in my heart).

This has brought to me a concern when I started hearing stuff about the "Resistance" and the "First Order" and began to make me wonder/worry if the Rebel Alliance ultimately failed reviving the Republic. Why would you need a Resistance, if you have a Republic backing you?

More worrying still, is we haven't seen any, Capital size 'Resistance' ships spoiled. Overall the information that has been leaked or at least the information I have seen seems to point to a disturbing (at least to me) idea that Republic over the last two plus Decades was never able to reform the Republic. This makes me at least (as much as anyone can be about a fictional universe) a little concerned. As imperfect as it might have been, I loved the Republic from before the Empire, and even before the Clone wars. For me the reestablishment of the Republic was important as it was the end goal of Alliance.

So I guess that brings me to the question or concern, did it never happen? Or are we just not hearing about it. I know we still have some 25 years of history to be fleshed out, but so far I'm concerned at the look of the things to come, an how they pertain to the future of the Republic.

Anyone else have any other idea's or wisdom even if they might be spoilery?

Interesting if they didn't/failed to create the republic.

Boring if this is a "parallel universe" plot where the republic failed and time travel and/or wormholes are used to show the cast how life is different or something.

I highly doubt the second one, so lets get to know our new canon!

I believe they do.

A new Chancellor

Like so many others, Mon Mothma has found a new role within the New Republic. The once Senator is the Chancellor of the newly formed Galactic Senate, seated on Chandrila. Interestingly, the position still maintains the emergency powers granted by Palpatine… for now.

From this article.

http://www.starwars.com/news/9-connections-star-wars-aftermath-makes-to-the-known-star-wars-universe

Tbh, i expect most of Armada to be based on the Legends canon anyway, same as X-Wing.

However, interesting question. Kage13's link certainly suggest there WAS a new Republic, for at least some time. How long, what happened etc, we simply cant know yet.

I believe they do.

A new Chancellor

Like so many others, Mon Mothma has found a new role within the New Republic. The once Senator is the Chancellor of the newly formed Galactic Senate, seated on Chandrila. Interestingly, the position still maintains the emergency powers granted by Palpatine… for now.

From this article.

http://www.starwars.com/news/9-connections-star-wars-aftermath-makes-to-the-known-star-wars-universe

Interesting

As rubbish as the writing seems to be perhaps I should pick it up.

So far only Lost Stars is getting good reviews.

Personally, I was just going to get Shattered Empire

If leaked spoilers are true, the movie does address this. I won't share them here, but if you are interested you can PM me. I feel they are fairly major spoilers as far as the general events going on during the movie, if not essential to the plot.

I dont let disney decide my story. the new "canon" has to prove himself to me first before I let any of the old "canon" go.

I heard that the battle of jaku not long after Endor basically destroyed the Rebels ability to make war and allowed to the broken empire to mantain control and fast forward 20ish years and you have Ep. VII

I heard that the battle of jaku not long after Endor basically destroyed the Rebels ability to make war and allowed to the broken empire to mantain control and fast forward 20ish years and you have Ep. VII

That's strange. I have been hearing that Jakku was a significant Rebel Victory. Can anyone verify one way or the other?

I heard that the battle of jaku not long after Endor basically destroyed the Rebels ability to make war and allowed to the broken empire to mantain control and fast forward 20ish years and you have Ep. VII

That's strange. I have been hearing that Jakku was a significant Rebel Victory. Can anyone verify one way or the other?

Sounds like Battle of Coral Sea. Both sides declared victory

I heard that the battle of jaku not long after Endor basically destroyed the Rebels ability to make war and allowed to the broken empire to mantain control and fast forward 20ish years and you have Ep. VII

Possible but unlikely. Even if the battle was a win for the remains of the Empire I don't see the New Republic committing enough of their forces to it or any other battle not involving something on the scale of a Death Star level threat to let it cripple their forces to that point.

I heard that the battle of jaku not long after Endor basically destroyed the Rebels ability to make war and allowed to the broken empire to mantain control and fast forward 20ish years and you have Ep. VII

That's strange. I have been hearing that Jakku was a significant Rebel Victory. Can anyone verify one way or the other?

Those things aren't exclusive. Could easily be a Rebel victory that cost them too much materiel.

Kursk

Classic pyrrhic victory. Honestly, dont need to look any further than the very original ones, Heraclea and Asculum.

Pyrrhus would be pretty analogous to the Rebellion actually if they were foolish enough to go head on with the Empire. Yeah, they could win battles. By a large margin even. But they could NEVER absorb the damage like the Empire could, same way Pyrrhus kept beating the Romans....right up until he lost the war.

Bearing in mind that I'm speculating wilidly.....

I expect the New Republic to be flourishing. Possibly even getting complacent. The Empire has fallen, and 10 years or so of battles with assorted remnants is over. Peace in our time.

A hidden pocket of particularly fanatic troops and leaders has been quietly building up for some time. Think moon-Nazies. "The First Order" sounds pretty good for a movement to restore the Empire.

"The Resistance" is the local forces. Corousant is too far away to have heard and responded yet. The bureocracy is slow. Not malicious, just slow. The First Order is going to have time to gain a fair few systems before the Republic Fleet mobilizes, so local defense forces will have to work with what they've got.

While avoiding specifics for spoilery reasons, my interpretation of the side action and Rebel leadership decision making in Aftermath led me to believe that the New Republic isn't ever going to get on its feet before TFA in anything but name. As we fill in the rest of the 25 years, I actually expect to see a resurgent Empire. When/how the First Order comes about, who knows. But I walked away from my initial read of Aftermath fairly convinced that the Rebels have an ugly road ahead.

If we analyse the strenghts, even small parts of the empire could be en-par with the Alliance after Endor. SO even if the Empire broke apart, we could see a multi-fraction galaxy, with a lot of warlords and perhaps a New Republic struggling to gain strength.

Thats a good point. We have nothing to say that the First Order is THE Empire....it could just be a faction.

The New Republic with senators and Mon Mothma as chancellor is in Aftermath. Likely survived for a while. Book two and three will no doubt show us more. Could be republic is still around and Resistance is just those under First Order rule.

Perhaps the New Republic is supporting a series of resistance groups in localized conflicts around the core worlds, and unlike other remnants of the Empire, The First Order may have enough of a capability to actually threaten the whole Galaxy with a special device or weapon?

In the EU the only reason the empire basicly fracktured into multiple parts is because the emperor didnt leave a chain of command after him and vader thus leaving the High admirals and Moffs to fight over the power vacume left in that wake.Despite the massive victory at Endor the rebal's did dedicate almost everything they had to it and lost at least 3 large capital ships to the death star alone. In the EU it took the rebals at least another 10 ish years to fnially beat the reamaning empire and GA thrawn almost claimed victory over the RA. So i guess another "loss" at a strategic location and leck of imperial fracture could have forced the rebellion back underground and prolong the conflict even longer. Howver i dont believe that 30 years have passed with no real action politicly or militarily happend to have the FO somewhat on the backfoot and the rebels now called the resistance. It just lleaves the rest of the galaxy far to open to beleive that this is the scenario. IMHO it doesnt fit with the rest of the story. Even not counting the prequels. Sorry for the soap box rant but disney had so much to work with and i think they are going to mess it up by going there own way.

The new canon makes it clear that the Empire did fracture after Palpatine died. One of the key points of Aftermath is a group of Imperial splinter forces trying to ally and choose a new leader I believe and Uprising shows that at least one Moff tried to cut his sector off from the rest of the galaxy..

Aftermath makes it clear that the Republic did reform and everything I've read says they formed a peace treaty with the remains of the Empire so my guess is the Resistance is those members of the old Rebel Alliance who rejected the treaty combined with new rebels from within the regions left to the Empire probably with covert support from worlds and organizations within the New Republic, and possibly the Republic government itself.

I believe they do.

A new Chancellor

Like so many others, Mon Mothma has found a new role within the New Republic. The once Senator is the Chancellor of the newly formed Galactic Senate, seated on Chandrila. Interestingly, the position still maintains the emergency powers granted by Palpatine… for now.

From this article.

http://www.starwars.com/news/9-connections-star-wars-aftermath-makes-to-the-known-star-wars-universe

Brought the seat of government to her home town and kept "emergency powers". Hmmm, I guess I was giving her the benefit of the doubt when I joked that she would be the Robert Mugabe of the SW galaxy.

I believe they do.

A new Chancellor

Like so many others, Mon Mothma has found a new role within the New Republic. The once Senator is the Chancellor of the newly formed Galactic Senate, seated on Chandrila. Interestingly, the position still maintains the emergency powers granted by Palpatine… for now.

From this article.

http://www.starwars.com/news/9-connections-star-wars-aftermath-makes-to-the-known-star-wars-universe

Brought the seat of government to her home town and kept "emergency powers". Hmmm, I guess I was giving her the benefit of the doubt when I joked that she would be the Robert Mugabe of the SW galaxy.

My understanding of Aftermath was she was trying to give up those powers, and slash the military down to 10% of what it was, and would do so at the earliest opportunity (which shocked her pro-military advisor)

I believe they do.

A new Chancellor

Like so many others, Mon Mothma has found a new role within the New Republic. The once Senator is the Chancellor of the newly formed Galactic Senate, seated on Chandrila. Interestingly, the position still maintains the emergency powers granted by Palpatine… for now.

From this article. http://www.starwars.com/news/9-connections-star-wars-aftermath-makes-to-the-known-star-wars-universe

Brought the seat of government to her home town and kept "emergency powers". Hmmm, I guess I was giving her the benefit of the doubt when I joked that she would be the Robert Mugabe of the SW galaxy.

My understanding of Aftermath was she was trying to give up those powers, and slash the military down to 10% of what it was, and would do so at the earliest opportunity (which shocked her pro-military advisor)

Uh huh, suuuure.

Do you believe everything the Rebel propagandists tell you?