The T-65 and T-70

By UnfairBanana, in X-Wing

Why not just specify "T-65 only"? Solves the problem.

Because, technically, there is no T-65 in this game. Only the X-wing and T-70 X-wing. And the convention for naming of ships is there to cover that the TIE Adv. Prototype is not the same as the TIE Advanced and TIE Advanced X1. So, you can thank that little bit of flavor on Vader for that.

"An Elegant Weapon From a More Civilized Age"

X-wing and Rebel Alliance Only

fixes the X-wing and lets you experience your awesome nostalgia without crippling failure or overpowering the new hotness

done, done and ******* done

Edited by ficklegreendice

It wouldn't be a stretch then to exclude the T-70 in any upgrade.

not even a little, given the design space

option # 2 is to design an incompatible title, such as a free R2-D6 that gives tech upgrades instead of epts (but doesn't let tech stack)

It wouldn't be a stretch then to exclude the T-70 in any upgrade.

It's not impossible. But, you can't just say "X-wing only".

Why not just specify "T-65 only"? Solves the problem.

Because very few people know that the T-65 is, I know I didn't until this month!

Yeah I know that ship point cost is not based upon the upgrades such as a each hull point is 3 points and each shield is 4. But the thing is that the T-70 gets both additions for less than what a T-65 will do to get only 1.

So you acknowledge that your second sentence is completely meaningless, given the context of the first?

This is probably the pentultimate reason why the T-70 will replace the T-65 and the T-65 will as Jek put it, "Got a problem here"

You seem to be having trouble with this concept. (I thought about downshifting a little bit, but insulting you that way isn't likely to help either, so I suppose I'll simply repeat myself.)

There have been a number of interviews and conversations with developers this year. In those conversations, the developers have said that they want to fix the original X-wing. They haven't made a timetable public, but they want to make it so that the old and new X-wings are playable right alongside one another.

And I would like Talonbane Cobra in a StarViper.

No way I'm flying one of those ugly looking things.

I'm sure I'll get harrassed for this suggestion, but instead of a title card what about making a astro droid card for the fix? It could give you both boost and an extra shield. Or if you don't want it to be exactly like the t-70, maybe keep the shield but change boost with after you attack perform a free barrel roll action? The requirements to equip this droid would be your ship needs to have 2 shields or less....not sure on point cost.

So make the T-60 in to a rubbish version of the T-70 with no astromech slot? Why would anyone use it?

The "fix" will not be to transform the T-65 in to the T-70.

So make the T-60 in to a rubbish version of the T-70 with no astromech slot? Why would anyone use it?

The "fix" will not be to transform the T-65 in to the T-70.

What if it was very cost effective, say 1 or 2 points for this droid? While there would be better astro droids I hardly see gaining a shield and something added to your action bar as throwing away your droid slot. I do see your point about being a weak t70 clone though

So make the T-60 in to a rubbish version of the T-70 with no astromech slot? Why would anyone use it?

The "fix" will not be to transform the T-65 in to the T-70.

What if it was very cost effective, say 1 or 2 points for this droid? While there would be better astro droids I hardly see gaining a shield and something added to your action bar as throwing away your droid slot. I do see your point about being a weak t70 clone though

Also would give Y-wings an extra shield and boost, plus could still be used on an T-70 to boost the shield up further for quite cheap. I can't see that.

I think (since I'm pretty sure the game designers just look on wookipedia for ideas) that the ReconX and StealthX will be used. I would say reading the reconX article that an X-wing only torpedo that does something with a scanning / sensor like theme is possible.

So make the T-60 in to a rubbish version of the T-70 with no astromech slot? Why would anyone use it?

The "fix" will not be to transform the T-65 in to the T-70.

What if it was very cost effective, say 1 or 2 points for this droid? While there would be better astro droids I hardly see gaining a shield and something added to your action bar as throwing away your droid slot. I do see your point about being a weak t70 clone though

Also would give Y-wings an extra shield and boost, plus could still be used on an T-70 to boost the shield up further for quite cheap. I can't see that.

I think (since I'm pretty sure the game designers just look on wookipedia for ideas) that the ReconX and StealthX will be used. I would say reading the reconX article that an X-wing only torpedo that does something with a scanning / sensor like theme is possible.

No, I said to make the requirement be it can only be equipped on ships with 2 shields or less, leaving only t65

Im glad people are starting to realize the only real fix for the T-65 is to make it a T-70. That being said I am starting to think that we wont be seeing the fix in the T-70 Booster and we wont be seeing that booster until after 12-17. The reason for that is that I am sure they want to include the main characters from Force Awakens and they have said that their last names are spoilers. So unless they release the pilot/crew cards without full names on them then the cards will be spoilers.

So I am guessing that sometime after we will see an Aces pack for X-wings with whatever the T-65 fix is, and hopefully some more pilots for the T-65 and T-70. So probably a black T-70 and a repaint T-65.

Now I would love to see some repeated pilots. They haven't done it yet but there is no reason they cant. I would love to see Corren Horn and Tycho in an X-Wing, their abilities dont actually have to be the same as their current pilots either although it would be interesting to see what Tycho could do in an X-Wing.

T-65 Advanced 1pt

"Rebel Alliance X-Wing Only"

Gain the Barrel Roll Action, and any equipped Astromechs cost 1 less Squad Point to a minimum of 0.

So make the T-60 in to a rubbish version of the T-70 with no astromech slot? Why would anyone use it?

The "fix" will not be to transform the T-65 in to the T-70.

So if that isn't the fix then what is? What else could you possibly do to it that would make it worth taking (unique pilot abilities aside) over a T-70 or a B?

-1 or 2 points: will then be significantly better than the Khiraxz

Free Boost or Barrel Roll or both: still not worth taking over the other 2 options

Free Tech upgrade: T-70 already has it and a better stat line

Awesome Astromech Upgrade: You take the utility away from the ship as well as plenty of good combos that most of the T-65 pilots were meant to be used with.

T-65 Advanced 1pt

"Rebel Alliance X-Wing Only"

Gain the Barrel Roll Action, and any equipped Astromechs cost 1 less Squad Point to a minimum of 0.

Better and on the right track but would have to be 0 points. Other wise you get an R2 Rookie with Barrel Roll for 22 points. I would imagine most people would rather have a B wing.

The biggest problem with the T-65 is staying alive. Anything that doesn't address this isnt a fix.

4 R2 Rookies with Barrel Roll and a Z doesn't sound too bad actually...it has a lot more speed than BBBBZ and can easily K Turn and pursue...

Also get 2 instead of 3 shot by pwts and hlcs

The x's horrible defensive profile for its cost could use a good looking at

I think giving it an extra agility or some way to get free evade Tokens using the stealthX guise.

StealthX 2pts

X-wing Only Title

When you perform a focus action, you may immediately perform a free evade action.

Or

StealthX 2pts

X-wing Only Title

When defending, if you are outside of the attackers primary firing arc your agility value is increased by one

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No problem making something Rebel Alliance only.

Is there something that is Resistance only or First Order only or Galactic Empire only?

Right now the answer is no, there are three primary factions; Rebel, Imperial, and Scum. All faction restrictions are currently bound to those primary factions and there is nothing separating sub-factions within the primary faction other than a faction logo.

Right now, you are correct. But keywords exist for a reason, and making "Rebel Alliance" it's own keyword implies that there will be abilities that hang off it.

Not that I think the Xwing fix will do so, but when the movie Rogue One comes out, I expect to see some Rebel Alliance Only cards.