It just occurred to me.

I'm throwing my money at the X-wing Aces pack. The fix for our T-65, and the Halloween-themed T-70. Because the Black & orange is like...well, it's the main guy's ship. They can't be the common one. The white & blue X-wing is the run-of-the-mill T-70, which means the expansion pack will likely be the same color as the core set one.

So, we get Poe's ship, and....perhaps a Luke Skywalker T-65? I dunno. But I'm betting this is how they keep the T-65 relevant. Throw on a T-65 title, because they totally would, to help further the distinction. May not be the most creative title, but it's the same as the TIE/Adv x1, really. Just the actual model name of the ship in question.

So! Yeah! Just a whiskey-inspired thought of mine tonight. I wanna speculate!

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

Well yeah I mean

That's like hoping Corran Horn's X-Wing will be in the Rogue Squadron Aces Paaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaawwwww *cries*

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

This upgrade card cannot be equipped if you have the Boost action icon.

Clunky, yes. But there are ways around the T-70.

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

This upgrade card cannot be equipped if you have the Boost action icon.

Clunky, yes. But there are ways around the T-70.

Ah, but isn't the T-70 listed as "T-70 X-wing" on the pilot cards/ship dial? That makes it its own ship. Otherwise, I could technically use the new dial with the old X-wing.

In game terms, "X-wing" and "T-70 X-wing" are two distinct ship types.

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

This upgrade card cannot be equipped if you have the Boost action icon.

Clunky, yes. But there are ways around the T-70.

Or,

[Name.]

Title.

X-Wing Only.

[Ability contents.] This upgrade cannot be equipped on a T-70 X-Wing.

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

This upgrade card cannot be equipped if you have the Boost action icon.

Clunky, yes. But there are ways around the T-70.

Ah, but isn't the T-70 listed as "T-70 X-wing" on the pilot cards/ship dial? That makes it its own ship. Otherwise, I could technically use the new dial with the old X-wing.

In game terms, "X-wing" and "T-70 X-wing" are two distinct ship types.

You may want to read the rules about titles. X-wing only applies to all who have X-wing in the name.

I think they can just have in the rule book: the T-65 X-Wing title cannot be equipped to a T-70 X-Wing. Making it possible yet redundant for the T-70 to take it would be the most elegant solution, though.

Pretty much anything that can go on the T-65 the T-70 can take as well. That sums up the replacement of the T-65.

As for the B-wing the B-wing was far different from the old X-wing that it didn't really replace the X-wing. Sure was the other ship with 3 firepower but 1 more point however it was low agility, low maneuver range and high durability that made it far different from the X-wing. That and combination of the Z-95 headhunter is what some people would say took jobs from the X-wing.

However T-70 matches the T-65 on firepower and agility as well as dial with just more to it. It has +1 shields for 3 more points and also has the boost action which allows equipping autothrusters to it. It has all the upgrade slots of the X-wing with the addition of a tech slot that doesn't have much but will get more eventually. Because of all this the T-70 is the replacement of the T-65, and since it cost less than the E-wing it replaces that as well.

A title, that gives the t65 the boost action and costs points.. no one is going to want that on the t70 anyway..it doesnt DO anything

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

Exactly this!

A title, that gives the t65 the boost action and costs points.. no one is going to want that on the t70 anyway..it doesnt DO anything

It also doesn't fix the T-65, it just makes it a pseudo t-70. That is not a good fix

A title, that gives the t65 the boost action and costs points.. no one is going to want that on the t70 anyway..it doesnt DO anything

It also doesn't fix the T-65, it just makes it a pseudo t-70. That is not a good fix

Not to mention that any upgrade to make the T-65 a psudo T-70 is more expensive than the T-70. Example give it the stat line of a T-70 with Shield upgrade and you will cost 1 point over which you might as well just take a T-70. Same goes for Engine upgrade.

Yeah I know that ship point cost is not based upon the upgrades such as a each hull point is 3 points and each shield is 4. But the thing is that the T-70 gets both additions for less than what a T-65 will do to get only 1. This is probably the pentultimate reason why the T-70 will replace the T-65 and the T-65 will as Jek put it, "Got a problem here"

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Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

Sure there is.

Rebel Alliance only.

They are different factions within an overarching faction after all.

If they really want a 65 only fix I guess they could do a 'X-Wing and Rebel Alliance only' title to be sure and make use of those subfactions.

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Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

Sure there is.

Rebel Alliance only.

They are different factions within an overarching faction after all.

On paper yes but for now no they really are not different factions at all.

Now will they remain the same faction or will they split into separate factions? Only insiders know the grand plane if there is any and I think FFG is seeing how they work as integrated sub factions before trying to split them up into separate factions first.

But for now the Resistance is the Rebels and the Rebels is the Resistance and the T-70 is the X-wing and the T-65 is yesterday's model.

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

Sure there is.

Rebel Alliance only.

They are different factions within an overarching faction after all.

On paper yes but for now no they really are not different factions at all.

Now will they remain the same faction or will they split into separate factions? Only insiders know the grand plane if there is any and I think FFG is seeing how they work as integrated sub factions before trying to split them up into separate factions first.

But for now the Resistance is the Rebels and the Rebels is the Resistance and the T-70 is the X-wing and the T-65 is yesterday's model.

No problem making something Rebel Alliance only.

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No problem making something Rebel Alliance only.

Is there something that is Resistance only or First Order only or Galactic Empire only?

Right now the answer is no, there are three primary factions; Rebel, Imperial, and Scum. All faction restrictions are currently bound to those primary factions and there is nothing separating sub-factions within the primary faction other than a faction logo.

Is there something that is Resistance only or First Order only or Galactic Empire only?

Right now the answer is no, there are three primary factions; Rebel, Imperial, and Scum. All faction restrictions are currently bound to those primary factions and there is nothing separating sub-factions within the primary faction other than a faction logo.

But we are discussing a way to fix the T-65 without breaking the T-70.

X-Wing only applies to both.

Rebel Alliance only doesn't.

The book clearly makes room for such a development by designating subfactions.

Problem is, there isn't really a way to make a title that can go on the t-65 but not the t-70, so whatever the fix ends up being, it has to be designed with both of them in mind. So, something redundant or of limited use on the 70, but great on the 65.

Or Rebel Alliance only.

I would just like to be able equip my T-65 pilots on the T-70. I know Wedge is still competitive on this own, but c'mon! Wedge in a T-70 would be amazing! Same thing with Wes and Luke!

And I would like Talonbane Cobra in a StarViper.

Maybe a T-70 title that allows you to take T-65 pilots in the new ship.

So rebel only? I'm getting this feeling that the x-wing fix has something to do with rebel only x-wing title. Am I getting that right?

Wait, why does the T-65 need a fix again? 2 points overcosted? Needs one more hull for jousting? post maneuver movement?

I dunno, but then I will fly Vader without title cause I'm too cheap to buy a raider.

Why not just specify "T-65 only"? Solves the problem.