I just wanted to say someting about the Adept again, to me the skills and talents make sense. You start as an normal office worker or kinda a Joe Average with a regular job. Then you get drawn into the Inquisiton Business with all the evil stuff. Then you have 3 options GTFO ( which the Inquisition probably doesnt approve of ), just die ( no approvement either ) or just adapt and learn to fight so you can be a asset to the team and be able to survive.

Even if you see it from the roleplaying side, if you meet your first Xenos, Cultists ... and you survive it, you would do anything to be prepared the next time and improve your chances to survive. And it isnt like it doesnt take forever till you get the combat heavy stuff for the Adept ( fluff wise you can bug the other chars all the time to train you, at least during the time you are not bookworming though a library or some similar thing).

I think to a degree the career path doesn't represent bog standard adepts but adepts that have been inducted into the Imperium. Sure there are countless boffins out there who can tell the difference between the Aggravated Reductionist policies of the Administratum of the Rigol Sector and the Preambulated Expansionisim of the Departmentum Munitorium in M33 but an Inquisitor doesn't necessarily want a pure academic on the team rather some one who can operate in dangeorus situations. The fact that the PC has the potential to handle himself given a bit of experience takes this into account.

Its the same reason a Feral worlder grunt can eventually learn to read and write.

Also come 3rd rank the adept will probably have been in one or two fire fights. Surely it is reasonable to give the character a chance to learn from this.

WayOfTheGun said:

WayOfTheGun said:

What and bring this back on topic? Crazy talk.

But yes I totally agree. After their first a$$ ****** by cultists they wouldn't be displaying the intellegence to pack some heat effectively.

Also as you say because of the stats they are never going to be great at it.

Also playing an entirely scholarly / social character is fine but highly reliant on your GM giving you just the right type of adventures all the time which your just can't expect when the other half of the group consists of morteriat assassins and gunslingers (for example).

Nigh7gaun7 said:

Fair enough.

-=Brother Praetus=-

Good Idea for Inara being Cleric. I would probably go for an Adept, invent several skills, invent background package involving sanctioned Companion guild that is servicing selected clientele in the ways of definitely Emperor-pleasing amorous arts. But that aside, I guess what I am saying that I would more gladly have a book of such little detail-adding packages than a book full of guns.

Adept is at a disadvantage because while he can hold his own in combat his role is social and what we are now lacking are social talents and special powers or even 'equipment'. For example, I have ruled that at the creation Adept gets 1000 bonus xps that have to be spent on either contacts or cover identities as per Inquisitor's Handbook (best chapters of that book if you ask me). Other careers get this bonus but at smaller degree. Plus, you don't have to spend this points during the creation. You can spend them at a fly if a need arises during the play. You need narco-alchemist contact to synthesize that strange new drug. You just make one up if you have xps. That's one way to give another role to Adept.

Another thing, even if you go down the adept-warrior road you really don't get to play Thufir Hawat. Simply there are no bonuses for being smarter than everybody else in game. And that is what is being Adapet, partially, about. Or am I wrong?

Another thing, even if you go down the adept-warrior road you really don't get to play Thufir Hawat. Simply there are no bonuses for being smarter than everybody else in game. And that is what is being Adapet, partially, about. Or am I wrong?

Well... I'm sure all those Common, Forbidden and Scholastic Lores (Daemon X has a deadly vulnerability to tulips/the BBEG holds that Archeotech MacGuffin the wrong side up/the "Magos" just misquoted the Universal Laws) won't ever grant some kind of bonus, no-no.

@Cifer

the way I see it, the true power of the adept is using all the lore skills to powerplay with tools, implants, drugs and all that radical's stuff.

Gregorius21778 said:

Conan the Librarian, a feral worlder who joined the wrong Adeptus. But like anything to do with the Adeptus Administratum you simply cannot escape red tape keeping everything where it is supposed to be and in the case of young Conan, it was to be under the gaze of an uncaring god. What is good in life was to crush the stamps on papers, drive the ink across the page before you and the lamentations of ******* that forgot to make an appointment and have to wait in line.

Failing all that, tear their **** apart with slide rule.