The Lambda should have a rear firing arc

By Keffisch, in X-Wing

The x-wing and b-wing should totally have closeable s-foils, tie fighter cockpits should open up, and the large ships should come with light and sounds, and the cards should all be hollofoils, oh and the cards should all come with the artists signatures on the back, it should be free, and finally, the scale of the game should be 1/1 with working ships that we can fly into space.

I was totally with you on this, until you just got absurd with " ... should all come with the artists signatures on the back". :P :D :lol:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the aft retractable ArMek twin blaster cannons are anti-personnel guns to clear a Landing Zone when the shuttle is being used in its role as a military transport. Blaster cannons are low-power weapons to shoot people with. Laser cannons are high-power weapons to shoot ships with. The only blaster cannon we see in the original trilogy is the one that deploys out of the bottom of the Millennium Falcon during the evacuation from Hoth. When you use your shuttle to drop reinforcements into your Imperial Assault game, that rear gun will be useful, but for space combat, it's pointless.

or it might do 1 point of damage, like an anti pursuit laser. ;)

We do see a few blaster cannons in the movies - just to nitpick, mostly in the battle of hoth. E-web blasters would definitely apply, as would anti-infantry cannon defense towers.

Also the Blaster cannons on T-47 airspeeders (Snowspeeders) apply. In the rogue squadron books, it was pointed out that the battle would have went VERY differently if the X-wings and their laser cannons could have been deployed against the ATATs.

Edited by DariusAPB

or it might do 1 point of damage, like an anti pursuit laser. ;)

We do see a few blaster cannons in the movies - just to nitpick, mostly in the battle of hoth. E-web blasters would definitely apply, as would anti-infantry cannon defense towers.

Also the Blaster cannons on T-47 airspeeders (Snowspeeders) apply. In the rogue squadron books, it was pointed out that the battle would have went VERY differently if the X-wings and their laser cannons could have been deployed against the ATATs.

I've always wondered why the X-wings were not used, but then they would have had to be modified to fly in the extreme cold for long periods instead of just taking off from a landing field like we see in the movie. We don't know how long it took to modify the T-47s before they could fly safely. This also explains why the Imperials didn't have air support, they would not have had time to modify their airspeeders or other atmospheric fighters. The myth of 'blizzard force' is responsible for many fans believing that every star destroyer has assault forces equipped for every possible planetary environment. I doubt even the Executor (which was where the Imperial forces assaulting Hoth were actually launched from) had specific cold weather equipment other than the generally robust Galactic Marine suits (the 'snow troopers') and the All Terrain walkers that are meant to be used in ALL TERRAINS, including ice and snow.

I bet one bombing run from the Y-wings probably would have ended the battle real quick, much faster than X-wings could have.

To that I agree. Your assessment looks to be most complete.

EDIT 2: Even FractalSponge himself struggles to salvage this thing:

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Isn't this render a WIP?

I agree, the he Lambda should absolutely have an Attack 2 rear arc attack.

The Anti-pursuit Lasers are meant to be those cannons. I think it fits the concept of those cannons and fits the shuttle very well.

No, it REALLY doesn't. A gun that only shoots if somebody rams you? That's not what those guns are at all.

But the escort shuttle? Yes please.

The Escort Shuttle's rear cannon is a turbolaser. So it either needs an Attack 4 rear arc. Or a Turret slot and the creation of a Heavy Laser Turret.

Edited by DarthEnderX

or it might do 1 point of damage, like an anti pursuit laser. ;)

We do see a few blaster cannons in the movies - just to nitpick, mostly in the battle of hoth. E-web blasters would definitely apply, as would anti-infantry cannon defense towers.

Also the Blaster cannons on T-47 airspeeders (Snowspeeders) apply. In the rogue squadron books, it was pointed out that the battle would have went VERY differently if the X-wings and their laser cannons could have been deployed against the ATATs.

I've always wondered why the X-wings were not used, but then they would have had to be modified to fly in the extreme cold for long periods instead of just taking off from a landing field like we see in the movie. We don't know how long it took to modify the T-47s before they could fly safely. This also explains why the Imperials didn't have air support, they would not have had time to modify their airspeeders or other atmospheric fighters. The myth of 'blizzard force' is responsible for many fans believing that every star destroyer has assault forces equipped for every possible planetary environment. I doubt even the Executor (which was where the Imperial forces assaulting Hoth were actually launched from) had specific cold weather equipment other than the generally robust Galactic Marine suits (the 'snow troopers') and the All Terrain walkers that are meant to be used in ALL TERRAINS, including ice and snow.

It has been noted in the Essential Guide to Warfare and vehicles, the Executor carried an entire storm trooper core with all the special gear they need for a variety of environments.

Then it should come with APL stock. :)

Give me one ship in Xwing that comes with ability of this caliber (hey! any ability!) stock?
:P

Then it should come with APL stock. :)

Should the HWK have a Blaster Turret stock because it is modelled with one? The YT-2400 only be able to be run as Outrider with HLC?

Model and gamepiece are somewhat disconnected in X-Wing, this is not 40k.

The Lambdas were designed to be formidable, and all were equipped with a stock rear turret. IMO, they should have had a rear arc, and if not, than at least APL stock. Wouldn't have been overpowered if it were priced appropriately.

Not this again. Just equip APL to your Lamdas if it bothers you that much. Sorry if that seems overly rude, but I had a really long and really frustrating debate about that once, nothing I would like to repeat. Worst of all it was entirely pointless, because there is no way to implement that in an elegant way for FFG.

Yeeaaahhh, I remember that...waaaay back in the day...

Let's not go down that road again.

If Lambda gets a special 2 dice rear arc then the ARC-170 gets one as well, with 3 dice front arc. And 'medium' base.

Of course none of that will happen because it's far too fiddly. Keep things simple, don't start adding more rules just cause some model has extra guns on it. The TIE Interceptor has 10(!) gun barrels, but no one is saying it should have an attack value of 6 or so. The Falcon has two quad guns but only fires once unless it has a gunner or Luke.

The TIE Interceptor has 10(!) gun barrels

No, it has 10 holes. 6 of which don't fire. There's a difference.

The Lambda really does have 8 guns in the front and 2 in the back.

The Falcon has two quad guns but only fires once unless it has a gunner or Luke.

And it absolutely SHOULD get two separate shots. Or at least, a Turret slot in addition to it's PWT. Otherwise, what's the point of it having an entire additional turret that the stock YT-1300 doesn't have?

Maybe as an upgrade for imperial aces three. :P

And I'd argue the Tie Defender was the best thing to come out of the flight sims, followed by the YT-2000 and the TIE Avenger.

Omg that Pinook fighter might be the best worst ship in x-wing! Ever.

Like, 2/1/2/1 statline with a Y-wing dial and ONLY a focus action? I would want some just for the novelty of the darn things.

Thanks for showing me that! :D good chuckle

OT +1

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I mean OP of course...

Edited by TheRealStarkiller