Edge of Darkness OOC

By ColonelCommissar, in Star Wars: Age of Rebellion RPG

Okay, so no Destiny this time changes the roll a bit.. A boost from the assist, a boost from the previous set of mechanics checks, a setback from the last coercion's threat, and...

Coercion, question time: 3eA+2eB+2eD+1eC+1eS 2 successes, 3 threat
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The auto Zabrak advantage again knocks that down to 2 successes, 2 threats.

Setback on the next interrogation check due to Zavvel's renewed resolve.

How big is the cell anyway? I want to know if all of us can fit in there so I can figure out how Kixue can best help (likely will try to use Influence to get him talking).

The cell is a hundred and fifty strong.

I think the size of the holding with Zavvel, Oro, N97, and Geoff.

Also, I sent another PM.

Which sort of cell did you mean? The Rebel cell or the holding cell?

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Which sort of cell did you mean? The Rebel cell or the holding cell?

I'm no expert but:

How big is the cell anyway? I want to know if all of us can fit in there so I can figure out how Kixue can best help (likely will try to use Influence to get him talking).

I think he means the prison cell.

I really hope the recorder is on...

The cell is a medium sized room, say twelve foot by fourteen?

N97 records all conversation around him by default. I imagine he clears the conversation cache every 24 hours unless it holds critical information. All information would be encrypted of course.

My apologies for the longwinded and possibly graphic post. Also:

SUCKER PUNCH!: 2eA 2 successes, 1 advantage
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Is it possible to give the next PC check a Boost?

Police brutality!

You inflict no damage due to soak. You can take a boost on the next check that is rolled in this scene, as Zavvel is momentarily off-balance.

What is the knowledge-warfare check difficulty for confirming the information the prisoner is stating is accurate?

Well, I've posted IC. Liaka is outraged someone punched the prisoner, and shocked that it was the good doctor and not the knife-nut.

That said, she is trying to turn this away from the brutal to the professional, hoping Zavvel can be shamed into telling his side of the story. It might be a bit unorthodox, but I'm still hoping this would constitute a Charm-check. It's not that she's trying to get the guy to like her, more that she's attempting to get him to talk by making it seems like she thinks it was his intention to get people killed, rather than this being something he though would be a good thing.

She is also deliberately starting with a question he has already answered. He has told the others his motives, making it very likely he'll be willing to explain himself again. In doing so, he'll have started to talk to Liaka, and hopefully be more inclined to keep doing so.

Perhaps Kiuxe could add something to this? I wouldn't mind claiming a boost for unskilled assistance at least...

Ok, who here really expected the doctor to punch the guy?

Police brutality!

You inflict no damage due to soak. You can take a boost on the next check that is rolled in this scene, as Zavvel is momentarily off-balance.

Not quite, as that would require someone in the law enforcement to punch the guy.

What is the knowledge-warfare check difficulty for confirming the information the prisoner is stating is accurate?

Well, I've posted IC. Liaka is outraged someone punched the prisoner, and shocked that it was the good doctor and not the knife-nut.

That said, she is trying to turn this away from the brutal to the professional, hoping Zavvel can be shamed into telling his side of the story. It might be a bit unorthodox, but I'm still hoping this would constitute a Charm-check. It's not that she's trying to get the guy to like her, more that she's attempting to get him to talk by making it seems like she thinks it was his intention to get people killed, rather than this being something he though would be a good thing.

She is also deliberately starting with a question he has already answered. He has told the others his motives, making it very likely he'll be willing to explain himself again. In doing so, he'll have started to talk to Liaka, and hopefully be more inclined to keep doing so.

Perhaps Kiuxe could add something to this? I wouldn't mind claiming a boost for unskilled assistance at least...

That is very true. That being said, if more soldiers hear about what happened, that means Zavvel's chances of actually living outside a locked room room go down significantly.

The fact of the matter is, especially from the military side of things, Zavvel committed some serious crimes agents the civilians. Add to it him actually alerting the Empire to an operation, one that not only failed but resulted in the destruction of the Cell's upper command and the deaths of dozens of rebels. I don't know how Star Wars deal with it, but in the military that is considered to be high treason. If the cell doesn't deliver a good dose of justice, some soldier who lost buddies in the conflict will take a very dim view and might even be willing to "balance the checkbook".

Do I need to roll for the assist?

Kymrel would make the roll; you're just confirming whether you're willing to provide it.

He'll assist then.

Hey all. I'm going on vacation for a week starting tomorrow, so I probably won't be checking in or posting while I'm gone. I'm thoroughly enjoying how this interrogation is going, carry on without me! ;)

As a retired US Air Force officer I don't know of any military that would not consider such actions treason. And in a time of war that is the death penalty. While I believe torture to be a less than effective means of interrogation, roughing up a prisoner such as this hardly breaks any significant conventions (didn't even cause any wounds). Now if he was a member of a different nation's military (in this case such as an Imperial), then imprisonment for life would be the typical sentence.

Cnl: How are you playing the rebellion's way of handling military members that commit treason/wanton murder?

As a retired US Air Force officer I don't know of any military that would not consider such actions treason. And in a time of war that is the death penalty. While I believe torture to be a less than effective means of interrogation, roughing up a prisoner such as this hardly breaks any significant conventions (didn't even cause any wounds). Now if he was a member of a different nation's military (in this case such as an Imperial), then imprisonment for life would be the typical sentence.

Cnl: How are you playing the rebellion's way of handling military members that commit treason/wanton murder?

That's what I have mentioned before.

Better question: Would it really be unexpected for a medic to want to punch the boggard that killed men and left him with a mass cas event?

Though to be honest I'm not sure what more we can get from him. He doesn't appear to be an Imperial spy afterall.

Well it does technically violate his sentient rights - but then, I think he waived those long ago, and it's not as if anyone is particularly looking to enforce them. I was just pointing out where you stood legally. Morally, it's the greyest of grey areas. And does Alliance High Command ever need to know?

Will be back on tonight, feel free to play N97 in a droid-y way until I am back

What would be the overall effect of using Influence to do strain damage to him? Could it make him more sujectiable to giving us info or maybe add a boost or two to social checks?

Also making a Computer check to swiftly edit the Alliances regs ..... I want to add in a regulation that I think we can use to trick him into being more forthcoming. What would be the diff to do that?

Influence Roll: 1eF 2 Light Side
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Edited by Kael

With two LS points, I'd say you need to effectively use positive emotion to bring him over to your side. Come up with a good wording, and you can get a Boost to your next Q&A session.

As for Alliance regs - are you attempting to hack into the central computer system for the Rebel Alliance to re-write the rulebook?

ColonelCommissar: I think many of us are still not certain how you are playing the rebellion military. Specifically on how they handle military prisoners who have committed treason/murder, etc. If they are a normal military than the prisoner is lying about his rights, if the rebellion you have established is a "no death penalty no matter what" version then we need to know.

As for knowing the regulations, N97 would likely have all the regulations on file (if not on him then in his data pad). Just as a human would remember something, N97 stores it for later retrieval. (He would need this to reference to make sure his daily actions would not contradict military law.)

Right now the characters know what the military law is in regard to the prisoners situation, it is just the players who don't know. Could you fill us in?

With two LS points, I'd say you need to effectively use positive emotion to bring him over to your side. Come up with a good wording, and you can get a Boost to your next Q&A session.

As for Alliance regs - are you attempting to hack into the central computer system for the Rebel Alliance to re-write the rulebook?

Not hack the central computer ( I doubt he could do that with his data pad .... though if he could ......). Instead he's going to try to swiftly add what appears to be a real reg to the copy stored on his data pad and then pass it off as something most people don't bother to read in a book full of regs, afterall most people don't know all the regs to their full extent. Then he'll spin a story about this being a lesser known reg, but one that Intel op's are familiar with but that regulation 7643C allows for the summary execution of traitors to the Alliances in situations where their continued life has resulted in large loss of life to the Alliance and may serve to cause further disunity or potential death of rebel agents upon full confession of crimes from the suspect. But they could forgo the reg if he gave them a reason to keep him around. Hopefully using Influence to cause strain damage will make him more likely to fall for the trick as he gets mentally fatigued from all the questions and answers he's currently doing.

Since he thinks he has the upper hand because reg's have been violated showing him how the reg's aren't all on his side, or at least making him believe that, might do the trick.

Also I thought you had to use light side pips on positive emotions only when you're attempting to make someone feel something and he's not attempting to influence an emotion or make him feel something, just do strain damage to him.

Edited by Kael

Alliance High Command has - as far as I'm concerned - issued a set of orders regarding treatment of prisoners stating that they aren't to be mistreated beyond an unreasonable level. That means no torture, no cruel and unusual punishment, and no execution. The stated reason was that they wanted to separate themselves from the Empire, who make gleeful use of such measures. Doctor Cohlen has continually backed such measures; Lieutenant Braxus feels that at times they have prevented his units from operating effectively. If there are any further questions, or I haven't effectively clarified what military law states, just let me know.

To edit the document would be an Average (DD) Computers check, as you are effectively just cracking the password lock to edit a PDF document (albeit a very official and very important document).

And a re-reading of the Influence power does indeed suggest that you don't need any sort of FP to inflict Strain damage, so you can go right ahead. I'll make a note of it.