Let's talk laser blasters (mythbusters)

By treybert, in X-Wing Off-Topic

Another SW mythbusters episode last night. Here is the promo clip

2 myths tested. 1) Can you dodge a blaster bolt because they seem to move pretty slow? 2) In a lightsaber fight, is the high ground really everything?

Blaster Bolts

Super SW fan Adam calculated the 'blaster' bolt speeds in the movies based on visual measurements. He found that they move at 130 mph on average. With this speed, they then setup a long hallway to test if you could get out of the way once the shot was fired. I'll spoil things down below for the results.

The absolute most impressive part of this segment was Jamie's pneumatic launcher. It has revolving barrel tubes that can be loaded with anything that fits. The end up firing small foam balls with 2 wooden paddles glued together to make fins. One shot nails Adam in the neck and he curses pretty good.

High Ground

The myth is that ridiculous ending of ep3 with Anakin and Obiwan. It was entertaining to watch since I'm sure everyone knows that the 'high ground' argument held no weight to begin with. They tested this by making custom lightsabers covered in a copper cloth. Both Adam and Jamie wore suits made of copper cloth and when an opposing blade completed a circuit with the opponent, an led belt would light up. I find it strange though that Adam didn't add just 1 more relay to the circuit to prevent near simultaneous triggers. It happened a few times where they both struck each other at about the same time where only review of the footage would show the victor.

Obviously they're both not sword experts. So they brought in one of the lightsaber choreographers from SW which was really cool. They trained with shinai's (Japanese fencing swords, kendo) to learn at least some novice swordplay moves. Again, it was entertaining to watch the process as the 'myth' was somewhat ridiculous to begin with.

Side note here, if you dvr'd it, don't miss the mid-commercial scene about 3/4 through. They get the choreographer to see if he can deflect a blaster bolt with his blade.

not 100% of the time, but he did manage to deflect a few

The results

Blaster Bolts:

While 130mph seems really slow (a speed more for movie aesthetics than practicality), neither Adam or Jamie was able to dodge. The projectile travels the 40' hallway at about the same time as their reaction times. Later they add the gun aiming time and they were still pegged every time. So at the end of it, storm troopers just really suck at aiming. Adam was surprised at the result as his initial guess was that 130 mph was too slow.

High Ground

At the end of the episode, they build a similar ramp to the one seen on ep3. They did 2 trials of 25 hits, alternating who had the high ground. At the end, it was 24:26 high:low. Might there be different results if it was 2 sword experts? Maybe, but the myth itself doesn't have a lot to stand on. It didn't seem like they took it seriously too much either. The credits say copyright 2014, so they have been sitting on this episode for a while. It was still fun to watch though.

Final note: Before someone starts arguing that the blaster bolt speeds are dead wrong, remember that it is entertainment.... both the mythbusters episode and Star Wars as a whole. Any faster and the audience would not be able to see the shots. I still enjoyed watching the episode regardless, still a big fan of the new format.

Edited by treybert

They have the best toys hey !?

In regards to having the high ground...

I don't think it was so much about that exact aspect, but the fact that if he fights in front of obi-wan, he can't get pushed backwards or risk going into the lava. He needs to be the one pushing obi-wan towards the lava. Obi-wan thinks the distance and incline is too far for Anakin to get past him. Anakin obviously was overconfident and it cost him dearly.

I saw a video clip of of the Blasters myth and I really disagreed with how they worked it out. First, they fired a random shot aimed right at him with no warning, with him standing completely still: even at a lower speed he wouldn't have been able to dodge the shot. Next, they brought the gun up from a carry position, it was still aimed right at him as he stood completely still, and fired: he was better able to move, but still got hit.

The issue I had is that there isn't ever an instance, really, where the person being shot at is standing still before dodging an incoming shot. Usually, they are moving to some degree. Also, they don't take into account that the Storm Trooper would have to spot the target, bring the blaster up, and aim before firing. While a trained soldier would be able to do that quickly enough, an equally trained soldier would begin moving to avoid the shot well before the blaster was being raised (in this case, well before might be half a second).

It was interesting to watch, but I think their process could have been better.

Yeah, their testing of the blaster shot left a lot to be desired. It didn't really follow a real world scenario at all. The shooting of the blaster was in perfect conditions. Stable, aimed properly, and at a stationary target. They should of had to target moving to start and at different distances.

In regards to having the high ground...

I don't think it was so much about that exact aspect, but the fact that if he fights in front of obi-wan, he can't get pushed backwards or risk going into the lava. He needs to be the one pushing obi-wan towards the lava. Obi-wan thinks the distance and incline is too far for Anakin to get past him. Anakin obviously was overconfident and it cost him dearly.

Yeah, I don't think they did a good job in this ep.

Re: the high ground. I think something else was meant than a tactical advantage. Both men knew who was going to win, but only one accepted that. It was the one who had the moral high ground.

This would echo through in their later duel, when Obi-Wan tells Vader that he will win even is he is struck down. The point is that Vader simply cannot win.