TIE Adv. Prototype vs. TIE/FO

By Droidlover, in X-Wing

The Inquistor seems like a 2 pt ability, so that puts the PS2 at 17, 18 with the title.

Honestly even before we knew about Tie/FO I wasn't super impressed with the TAP. Awings don't see a ton of play, so why would this. The Inquistor is quite good tho.

So, with the FO, it does seem to reinforce that.

Of course, we need more information, but I do doubt the TAP generics will see much play, especially with the FO being considerably more efficient. But there is enough there to warrant fielding the named TAP pilots, especially the Inquistor.

I think thats why some were so desperate for the TAP to be able to use the advance title.

It all depends which one can take TIE/X1.

/T-Roll

TAP Vs. FO already?

I must admit that even though it is early that's a big question for me too. TAP feels like an awing that costs more (I'd bet on 17 and a talon roll with a tie fighter dial). That just isn't going to cut it. Awings at 15 aren't cutting it so why would this? Now add a competitive option option pre-rease that is the same Hp/Att, almost same actions, surely what will be a better dial, and cheaper.

Now the TAP pilots could be amazing and mostly named with better PS tree. But is that really different enough? I hope so. I have much hope for both.

Are we officially out of stat line/action options at this point?

I think thats why some were so desperate for the TAP to be able to use the advance title.

Those some are dumb if they can't see how ruinous the inquisitor would be with ATC :P

I think thats why some were so desperate for the TAP to be able to use the advance title.

Those some are dumb if they can't see how ruinous the inquisitor would be with ATC :P

That's why people are worried about the other TAPS though. Inquisitor is fine like Vader and Soontir are fine. It's the other 4-6 pilots that people are worried about.

It might be 20 points, It's kind of hard to tell. But with the FO starting at 15 the stat line look very similar TAP has more of a shield shell than the FO.

Still it all depends on the Dial, the boost may help the TAP a lot with autothrusters but I think the FO will be cheaper.

The TIE/FO has Segnor's loops and all the green speed 2 maneuvers that an Interceptor has. I think Fantasy Flight takes that into account when pricing. To the detriment of the overcosted Defender, which should have had all green speed 3 maneuvers, white turns instead of red, and priced at 4 points less for all the pilots.

I think thats why some were so desperate for the TAP to be able to use the advance title.

Those some are dumb if they can't see how ruinous the inquisitor would be with ATC :P

At Range 1 he'd be no better than Darth Vader. Actually Darth Vader would still win because he'd get 2 actions.

FFG has a chance to not **** up this time. If the PS 2 TAP comes to 17, + 1 for the title, it may be too expensive.

18 points for a 2 attack ship with target lock and evade as a single action. With low pilot skill moving first, you may not be able to get off a target lock on enemies that are in range during the combat phase.

Now, is it as good as an 18 point TIE Interceptor with 3 attack using Focus?

The 4 and 6 PS pilots also need to have elite pilot talents. FFG keeps doing the same pattern where one of the generics has an EPT and that is good, but then they make the lower PS of the 2 named pilots not have an EPT, and that is bad!

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I think thats why some were so desperate for the TAP to be able to use the advance title.

Those some are dumb if they can't see how ruinous the inquisitor would be with ATC :P
That's why people are worried about the other TAPS though. Inquisitor is fine like Vader and Soontir are fine. It's the other 4-6 pilots that people are worried about.

Remember, the empire has tie LNS

Unless pwts continue to dominate or some stupid awesome tech upgrade cones out, even the to generics don't amount to much next to the trusty tie

As an awing and fighter player, about the only meaningful difference the less efficient As make over ties is when they have ptl (in my experience ). of course, As are fun because they have shields and boost so maybe the TAP can compete there

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And a V1 has a limited form of PTL, that is stress free, and can be used on the base pilot. In the end, there isn't going to be a "best" option. They will have niche utility. Which is perfectly fine.

And a V1 has a limited form of PTL, that is stress free, and can be used on the base pilot. In the end, there isn't going to be a "best" option. They will have niche utility. Which is perfectly fine.

Which only works when you are in range to target lock an enemy. And with barrel roll and boost, you are going to need those actions to arc dodge often since you only have the 4 hit points on a 18-31 point ship. The autothrusters are pretty much auto include because they help you not die, but unlike an Interceptor, you don't have a stealth device to maximize the odds of getting a good result.

The Inquisitor with Push the Limit is going to have Soontir Fel levels of action economy, although you are going to be stuck with target locking and evade as your 2 free actions, and your range 1 offensive roll will be less impressive. The ability to boost, or roll, or focus before getting a target lock and evade will make him pretty slippery. Now if only he has the green maneuvers to shed that stress as efficiently as Interceptors with their full bevy of green speed 2 maneuvers.

We don't know if any of the other pilots will have an elite pilot talent. But I can't see pumping too many points into a 2 attack ship even if they do. The Inquisitor can have autothrusters, but is ultimately a weaker Vader that will live or die by his maneuver dial.

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Of course the Inquisitor will be weaker than Vader. He is cheaper. Again, this isn't about them being the "best" option. It is about them being A option. Assuming a 20pts for the base with Autothrusters and the title, the V1 could be very, very annoying to TLT ships.

Of course the Inquisitor will be weaker than Vader. He is cheaper. Again, this isn't about them being the "best" option. It is about them being A option. Assuming a 20pts for the base with Autothrusters and the title, the V1 could be very, very annoying to TLT ships.

20 points base will make it DoA.

Of course the Inquisitor will be weaker than Vader. He is cheaper. Again, this isn't about them being the "best" option. It is about them being A option. Assuming a 20pts for the base with Autothrusters and the title, the V1 could be very, very annoying to TLT ships.

20 points base will make it DoA.

17 base cost, +2 for Autothrusters +1 for title. Sorry, if I wasn't clear, I was talking about the final cost.

Of course the Inquisitor will be weaker than Vader. He is cheaper. Again, this isn't about them being the "best" option. It is about them being A option. Assuming a 20pts for the base with Autothrusters and the title, the V1 could be very, very annoying to TLT ships.

20 points base will make it DoA.

17 base cost, +2 for Autothrusters +1 for title. Sorry, if I wasn't clear, I was talking about the final cost.

Ahh i see that makes sense, i was reading it like it was 20 then you add 3 points of upgrades, which i did think odd.

20 points for it fully stocked however would be reasonable.