Lone Wolf, AT, Regen-O-Shield Droid.
Any other build feels inferior. Maybe Predator instead of Lone Wolf if you're running him with more then 2 other ships. But ya, this is "the build".
Lone Wolf, AT, Regen-O-Shield Droid.
Any other build feels inferior. Maybe Predator instead of Lone Wolf if you're running him with more then 2 other ships. But ya, this is "the build".
Poe with Lone Wolf, Autothrusters and R5-P9 is fairly reliably going to get two evades per defense, then can regenerate a shield. Wow. Corran can take a seat. I also like Boost more than BR.
Blue Ace definitely wants R7-T1, and hopefully Autothrusters too.
RSV with PtL, R2, and AT is the best combo I can think of for it.
I'd love to run all three in a list, but they're just too expensive. Rightly so.
If you can live without an EPT on Poe, those 3 come out to 100 points even.
Poe w/AT+R5-P9 (36)
Red Squad Vet w/PTL+AT+R2(32)
Blue Ace w/R7-T1+AT(32)
Poe builds I'll probably run him in one of the following ways:
- Predator, R2-D2, AT (40pts)
- Wired, R3-A2, Weapon Guidance, AT (38pts)
- PTL, BB-8, AT (38pts)
- Lone Wolf, BB-8, AT (37pts)
- Determination, R5-P9, AT (37pts)
With most likely Garven, PTL (R2-D6), EU as his wingmate. Which leaves 26-29pts for Biggs or another High Priority Target
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I'm more excited on getting my hands on the T-70s for this:
Red Squadron Veteran — T-70 X-Wing 26 (x2)
Opportunist 4
Weapons Guidance 2 -or- Autothrusters 2
Wes Janson — X-Wing 29
Veteran Instincts 1
R3-A2 2
Engine Upgrade 4
T-70 Squadron
Poe with R5-P9 and Autothrusters (36 pts)
Red Squadron Veteran with R2 PtL and Autothrusters (32 pts)
Red Squadron Veteran with R2 PtL and Autothrusters (32 pts)
or
Poe with R5-P9 and Autothrusters and Adrenaline Rush (37 pts) (Adrenaline Rush so you can still focus after a K-Turn or Talon roll once per game)
Blue Ace with BB-8 and Autothrusters (31 pts)
Red Squadron Veteran with R2 PtL and Autothrusters (32 pts)
Can't wait to try either... maybe drop Autothrusters on the Red Squadron Veteran or Blue Ace to give Poe Lonewolf.
I think Blue Ace really wants R7-T1. You
get some action efficency from the droid in a way that lets you take advantage of his crazy 90 degree boost.
Depends on what you expect from him.
R7-T1 is too restrictive for my taste: You need to be in the enemy firing arc and at range 1-2. It works with a ship with a turret like a Y-Wing that can boost to get out of sight and still have a shot, but on a PS5 X-Wing, I'm not too sure. It does sound nice on him though.
For my part, with his ability, I expect to flank. And being able to barrel roll before moving can help a lot with that roll. I like the idea of doing a Barrel roll left-Do a bank right-Boost and do a hard right. Or Barrel Roll right -bank 1 right - then boost turn left. Or just barell roll left - straight 1 - boost turn right. A lot of maneuver possibilty to mess with your opponent.
So, R7-T1 if you are more offensive, BB-8 if you're feeling sneaky.
And if you are going with R7-T1, I think you could drop Autothrusters, unless you expect a lot of turret. You will probably be in range 1-2 most of the time.
Edited by Red CastleVi, at, r5p9
It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
The idea is that you start off unstressed, reveal your green move, barrel roll, PTL to do something, and then clear the stress with the green.
It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
Only if your stressed. Which is circumstantial.
Unstressed, it's barrelroll, then do something else, get stress, perform green maneuver, remove stress, perform another action. That setup is full of win.
Personally, I love Wedge with BB-8, PTL, and EU.
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Edited by droz69It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
You PTL off the BR, so that you'll clear the stress after you move.
Probably because PTL BB-88 and AT (38 points total) is so obvious right? Just wondering what others were planning for the rebellion's newest ace.
R5-P9's a very good option.
Personally, I love Wedge with BB-8, PTL, and EU.
Tried it yesterday and it kinda sucked. I take it back: it really sucked.
The problem with the pre-maneuver boost/barrel compared to post maneuver boost/barrel is that it wildly changes the ship's facing and final position. That's great if you're K-turning, but BB-8 only fires on the X-wing's tiny suite of very short green moves.
It's not like Soontir where you've got loads of options when you reveal your dial: all boost/barrel combos but one usually send you off into the middle of nowhere. This makes it next to useless for arc dodging, meaning your actions are much better spent on defense. It's got very little useful reactionary ability at all.
Likewise, post-maneuver Boost is, unless you're a turret, an aggressive action: you use it to get a shot or to block, not to dodge (unless comboed with barrel). The situations where the boost is geniunely helpful simply aren't common enough to justify the cost.
With a T-65 you're much better putting those four points on Engine Upgrade into a Shield or Hull Upgrade (or using them elsewhere) and using BB-8 + PTL for Focus/Target Lock.
You really want Blue Ace for BB-8 boosting.
Edited by Blue FiveThe idea is that you start off unstressed, reveal your green move, barrel roll, PTL to do something, and then clear the stress with the green.It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
That makes sense. I'm disappointed I didn't recognize that.
The more I think about it, I agree, Lone wolf is a REALLY good option for POE. Keep him at range and he can reroll blanks continuously, and sometimes won't need to with autothrusters. I like it.
Yeah, he will tear turrets up. Nearly guarenteed 2 evade each attack is going to be rough, even for those TLTs.
Yeah, he will tear turrets up. Nearly guarenteed 2 evade each attack is going to be rough, even for those TLTs.
I mean, that's nearly 40 points for PS8. But he's going to be a tough out for almost anything.
I'm looking into trying him with Kyle Katarn/Recon Specialist or Garven Dreis so he can have his Focus cake and eat it too.
Cause I like to troll:
Cause I like to troll:
Poe Dameron (31)Lone Wolf (2)R5-P9 (3)Autothrusters (2)Corran Horn (35)Veteran Instincts (1)Fire-Control System (2)R2-D2 (4)Lieutenant Blount (17)Advanced Homing Missiles (3)Total: 100Have fun trying to kill these two. The old Z doesn't fit with these two modern Starfighters, but good ole deadeye Blount is a pretty nasty opponent for anybody with only 2 hull points. Also, I can't think of anything better to spend 20 points on.
The idea is that you start off unstressed, reveal your green move, barrel roll, PTL to do something, and then clear the stress with the green.It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
That makes sense. I'm disappointed I didn't recognize that.
Me too. That's insane. I think I love you BB-8.
The idea is that you start off unstressed, reveal your green move, barrel roll, PTL to do something, and then clear the stress with the green.It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
That makes sense. I'm disappointed I didn't recognize that.
Me too. That's insane. I think I love you BB-8.
Wait, is that for sure how that works? Seems like to me that you reveal your green maneuver, get your barrel roll from BB-8, then move your ship (clearing a stress if you have any from the previous round). THEN you check stress - if you didn't have any from the previous round, you still have none. If you had 1 stress, you have none. If you had multiple, you have one fewer and cannot PtL or perform any actions...and actually don't the new rules make it clear that you can't perform even free actions granted by other effects if you're already stressed? So my interpretation is the best case is that you're not stressed when you start the shenanigans, you reveal a green and BB-8 triggers, letting you barrel roll. Then you execute your green maneuver. Then you go to actions, wherein you choose to, say, boost and focus with PtL, meaning you've executed three total actions but are left with a stress. I think.
It's still flippin' sweet, makes Poe like Soontir with shields almost, and I guess you can keep doing it as long as you stick to greens and don't receive stress from another source.
Edited by FuturistiKenMore Poe means more Carnor Jax and Palob. I hate everybody!
The idea is that you start off unstressed, reveal your green move, barrel roll, PTL to do something, and then clear the stress with the green.It may be just me but PTL Poe with BB8 doesn't seem like it would work. BB8 says when you "reveal". If you're stressed you wouldn't get the free Barrell Roll. Unless you had a Wingman or something.
That makes sense. I'm disappointed I didn't recognize that.
Me too. That's insane. I think I love you BB-8.
Wait, is that for sure how that works? Seems like to me that you reveal your green maneuver, get your barrel roll from BB-8, then move your ship (clearing a stress if you have any from the previous round). THEN you check stress - if you didn't have any from the previous round, you still have none. If you had 1 stress, you have none. If you had multiple, you have one fewer and cannot PtL or perform any actions...and actually don't the new rules make it clear that you can't perform even free actions granted by other effects if you're already stressed? So my interpretation is the best case is that you're not stressed when you start the shenanigans, you reveal a green and BB-8 triggers, letting you barrel roll. Then you execute your green maneuver. Then you go to actions, wherein you choose to, say, boost and focus with PtL, meaning you've executed three total actions but are left with a stress. I think.
It's still flippin' sweet, makes Poe like Soontir with shields almost, and I guess you can keep doing it as long as you stick to greens and don't receive stress from another source.
The PTL action is a free action that can piggy back any action you take, so unless there's errata I haven't read (which is quite possible), then you can perform the PTL action immediately after BB-8 gives you the barrel roll, get the stress, execute the green maneuver and then clear the stress... still leaving you a "perform action step" action.
Edited by LordPastyAlso Carnor would only affect Poet taking a focus action not using his ability if he has a focus right? Since you don't actually use the token.
Lone Wolf, R2-D2, Autothrusters.
After a few games with this build I am far less certain that it is the way to go. No evade action and only 2 green dice makes him very vulnerable to an early, rapid death. Late game against a Decimator he is a real monster, but his odds of making it that far aren't much better than Wedge.
Edited by TasteTheRainbowAfter a few games with this build I am far less certain that it is the way to go. No evade action and only 2 green dice makes him very vulnerable to an early, rapid death.Lone Wolf, R2-D2, Autothrusters.
Rainbows got it
The t-70 is no Ewing. Poet himself is suited to taking lots of nippy attacks versus corran's ability to be basically immortal if against a single ship
After a few games with this build I am far less certain that it is the way to go. No evade action and only 2 green dice makes him very vulnerable to an early, rapid death.Lone Wolf, R2-D2, Autothrusters.
For what it's worth I'm in the PtL/BB-8/AT camp, maybe with Weapons Guidance to help push damage through. I think Poe wants to focus on damage output and disrupt the opponent's list as directly and quickly as possible. I'm thinking of pairing him with two TLT/IA Wardens but I could be talked into three AbT Ys.
Edited by Tsiegtiez